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No, you can't be a terrible human being and be a good president.

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Someone can be a flawed human being -- even a deeply flawed human being -- and still possibly be a good leader.

But when someone crosses the line to being a truly vile person, then no, that person can't be a good president.



So, no, Trump isn't and never will be a good president.
 

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Someone can be a flawed human being -- even a deeply flawed human being -- and still possibly be a good leader.

But when someone crosses the line to being a truly vile person, then no, that person can't be a good president.



So, no, Trump isn't and never will be a good president.

Thank you for your opinion. I'll be sure to file it in its appropriate place.
 

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Someone can be a flawed human being -- even a deeply flawed human being -- and still possibly be a good leader.

But when someone crosses the line to being a truly vile person, then no, that person can't be a good president.



So, no, Trump isn't and never will be a good president.

Everyone is entitled to an opinion.

I don't agree with yours. :shrug:
 

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Someone can be a flawed human being -- even a deeply flawed human being -- and still possibly be a good leader.

But when someone crosses the line to being a truly vile person, then no, that person can't be a good president.

So, no, Trump isn't and never will be a good president.

Every president that has served would be disqualified then.

Obama was in a drug club in school where he and his buddies did cocaine.

I could go on and on.......
 

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Someone can be a flawed human being -- even a deeply flawed human being -- and still possibly be a good leader.

But when someone crosses the line to being a truly vile person, then no, that person can't be a good president.



So, no, Trump isn't and never will be a good president.

Trump is a horrible person. Always has been.
 

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I disagree.

People can have asshole personalities and still be effective leaders. As long as you have a respect for the limits of your authority, it's really not the most important issue.

Trump's problem isn't just that's he's an asshole, he's also a complete imbecile. In fact most of his assholish statements come as a result of being an imbecile.

Don't get me wrong, he's got a lot of sociopathic tendencies, but those are not the totality of what makes him an awful leader.
 

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Someone can be a flawed human being -- even a deeply flawed human being -- and still possibly be a good leader.

But when someone crosses the line to being a truly vile person, then no, that person can't be a good president.



So, no, Trump isn't and never will be a good president.

You are using the wrong yardstick...how much you like them matters almost not at all....how much they accomplish of what needs to be accomplished what is good for this nation....THAT is the right one.

Learning this sort of thing is what education is for.

fyi
 

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Every president that has served would be disqualified then.

Obama was in a drug club in school where he and his buddies did cocaine.

I could go on and on.......


So what if Obama did cocaine?
 

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Bill Clinton was and still is a disgusting pig and people thought he was a good President.Trump has a lot of catching up to do to match him.
 

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Someone can be a flawed human being -- even a deeply flawed human being -- and still possibly be a good leader.

But when someone crosses the line to being a truly vile person, then no, that person can't be a good president.



So, no, Trump isn't and never will be a good president.
So bill clinton was a bad leader too

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Someone can be a flawed human being -- even a deeply flawed human being -- and still possibly be a good leader.

But when someone crosses the line to being a truly vile person, then no, that person can't be a good president.



So, no, Trump isn't and never will be a good president.

right , mainly because the mob won't dare let you.


thing is, every human being is flawed. if you wait around trying to find a perfect human being to lead, your SOL.
 

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Every president that has served would be disqualified then.

Obama was in a drug club in school where he and his buddies did cocaine.

I could go on and on.......

president hell, just about every politician, like, ever.
 

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Bill Clinton was and still is a disgusting pig and people thought he was a good President.Trump has a lot of catching up to do to match him.

What made Clinton a pig?
 

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You are using the wrong yardstick...how much you like them matters almost not at all....how much they accomplish of what needs to be accomplished what is good for this nation....THAT is the right one.
Learning this sort of thing is what education is for.
fyi
Trump sees every situation as a deal to be made. Morals, values, decency ..... irrelevant. Bottom line is all that matters. In his business life that served him well, I guess, but contrary to what many of his supporters claim, leading the United States is much, much more than any business. Morals, values, and decency do matter. We are still that shining city upon the hill that President Reagan spoke so eloquently of.

https://youtu.be/khi08rq3oI4
 

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Yes. There was.

He was sanctioned for it and his law license stripped.


Bill Clinton was not convicted of perjury. Why right wingers believe this is a mystery.
 

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Yes. There was.

He was sanctioned for it and his law license stripped.


Bill Clinton was not convicted of perjury. Why right wingers believe this is a mystery.
 

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Someone can be a flawed human being -- even a deeply flawed human being -- and still possibly be a good leader.

But when someone crosses the line to being a truly vile person, then no, that person can't be a good president.



So, no, Trump isn't and never will be a good president.

Sure. that's why Obama was an epic failure.
 

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Someone can be a flawed human being -- even a deeply flawed human being -- and still possibly be a good leader.

But when someone crosses the line to being a truly vile person, then no, that person can't be a good president.



So, no, Trump isn't and never will be a good president.

"getting personal" Trump bash thread number 8,347.

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Now serving number 8,348!...8,348!...Number 8,348, you are now free to post your personal Trump bash thread!

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What made Clinton a pig?

Are you really that clueless?

Getting a BJ in the Oval Office would be a good qualifier for being a pig....then lieing about it.
Not because he got a BJ out of marriage. Everyone knows that is the first thing off the table when you get married.
That is why the bride smiles walking down the aisle.

It is because he did it in his workplace.
There are hotels and motels all over DC,
and whorehouses too.
but NO, he had to pick an intern and did not even have the decency to leave the Oval Office.

That particular BJ left a bad taste in ALL our mouths.

(pardon me while i go gargle. I just read again what i typed)
 
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Someone can be a flawed human being -- even a deeply flawed human being -- and still possibly be a good leader.

But when someone crosses the line to being a truly vile person, then no, that person can't be a good president.

So, no, Trump isn't and never will be a good president.
Agreed. The best thing about Trump is that he saved us from Hillary and her corrupt political machine. Now, if he’d only resign and let the adults take charge, all would be good. :)
 
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