New York Bill to force Chick-Filet to stay open on Sunday's

[ttwtt78640]

what makes that clear?

Other food providing businesses (e.g. Panera and Popeyes) are open fewer hours/week than CFA. The OP (and its link) assume the intent is to force CFA to open on Sundays in 7 to 10 locations, but the more likely result would be to force CFA out of those locations.

 

[WorldWatcher]

what makes that clear?

It’s actually a fair point when you look at who submitted the legislation and their comments about CFA.

I’m not saying it’s bad legislation in that Service plaza vendors should be open 7/365 since weekends tend to be heavy travel time for families.

WW

 

[ElChupacabra]

Other food providing businesses (e.g. Panera and Popeyes) are open fewer hours/week than CFA. The OP (and its link) assume the intent is to force CFA to open on Sundays in 7 to 10 locations, but the more likely result would be to force CFA out of those locations.

Not the existing ones. Apparently there's another company (Applegreen) which recently signed a 33 year contract to run the rest stops, and as part of that contract, the Chick-Fil-A locations can still keep their scheduled day off.

When the redevelopment project is complete, Chick-fil-A will operate in 10 of the rest stops on the Thruway. Chick-fil-A will be able to operate within their normal hours under the current contract with Applegreen, meaning they will not be impacted by the proposed bill's requirements and will still close on Sundays. “Chick-fil-A’s Sunday closure is a brand requirement which Applegreen factored into their tenant plan,” [Jennifer] Givner [NYS Thruway spokesperson] said.

Source

So it appears this will be an issue for any individual contracts NYS enters into with restaurants at rest stops outside of this scope.

 

[justabubba]

Other food providing businesses (e.g. Panera and Popeyes) are open fewer hours/week than CFA. The OP (and its link) assume the intent is to force CFA to open on Sundays in 7 to 10 locations, but the more likely result would be to force CFA out of those locations.

i would be very surprised if there was not some minimum band of time the facilities must be open and operational
it now looks like there will be a 7 day per week standard for operations
CFA gets to now choose whether it wants to open daily or forego the business opportunity
ditto for any other potential entity which opts to close during any particular day of the week
CFA is well known, and respected, for allowing its employees sundays off. IBM proudly resisted laying off any employee until economic factors compelled that change of policy. CFA may soon find itself in a circumstance which causes its policies to change. it's business - NOT religion - at work

 

[justabubba]

It’s actually a fair point when you look at who submitted the legislation and their comments about CFA.

I’m not saying it’s bad legislation in that Service plaza vendors should be open 7/365 since weekends tend to be heavy travel time for families.

WW

agreed
what's the point of creating the infrastructure to feed travelers, and then allow it to remain fallow 86% of the time
those who travel on sundays would likely want something to eat, too
CFA will have to choose whether it is CFA which feeds them

 

[ldub23]

You didn't read the bill.

The liberals are mad because the owner doesnt agree with gay marriage. Its a bill for the one business to be forced to comply

 

[Callen]

The liberals are mad because the owner doesnt agree with gay marriage. Its a bill for the one business to be forced to comply

The right is just looking for something to gripe about. This isn't about religion it's about hours of operation.

 

[Crunchtime]

Lets call this what it is. And coming from NY it is of no surprise.

This is a straight up attack on God and Christianity. They can wrap it and call it what they want, but it is an attack.

Lindsay Graham says he will fight to protect CF's rights.

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Some NY Chick-fil-A locations could be forced to stay open on Sundays under new bill

New York lawmakers have introduced a bill that would require restaurants in state highway system rest areas to operate seven days a week, a measure apparently aimed at interfering with a policy at the fast food chain Chick-fil-A of staying closed on Sundays.

www.nbcnewyork.com

I hope the stick to their guns and close the restaurants. For good.

 

[eohrnberger]

The right is just looking for something to gripe about. This isn't about religion it's about hours of operation.

Not just about a business's hours of operation, it is about not degrading a business' right to chose their hours of operation, and not be forced by the state dictating that business's hours of operation.

Since the business' choice of hours of operation is based on the culture of the business being founded in religious belief's, it's an infringement on both the business' right to chose their own hours of operation as well as the religious foundation of that choice.

 

[Callen]

Not just about a business's hours of operation, it is about not degrading a business' right to chose their hours of operation, and not be forced by the state dictating that business's hours of operation.

That's just plain untrue. All sorts of limitations are put in leases about hours of operation esoecialy in malls etc. It's a publicly funded building on a toll that you must pay to use. There are limited facilities and it is in the best interest of the taxpayer to have full service operations on busy weekends.

 

[eohrnberger]

That's just plain untrue.

No, it's not.
Especially considering that the restrictions appear to be only applicable to a single business, and, in fact, specifically written to target that one single business.

All sorts of limitations are put in leases about hours of operation esoecialy in malls etc.

It's a publicly funded building on a toll that you must pay to use.

I have no argument about that point, that lessees need to pay the lessor for leasing the space.

There are limited facilities and it is in the best interest of the taxpayer to have full service operations on busy weekends.

That's stretching 'the best interest of the taxpayer' to cover for what is certainly a culture war motived move by the state, originating from a known strongly left leaning state legislature.

 

[WorldWatcher]

No, it's not.
Especially considering that the restrictions appear to be only applicable to a single business, and, in fact, specifically written to target that one single

Nope, the restrictions will apply to all businesses that contract to provide services to travelers on the government operated Thruway.

WW

 

[eohrnberger]

Nope, the restrictions will apply to all businesses that contract to provide services to travelers on the government operated Thruway.

WW

OK, rather than using the word 'applicable', I think I should have said 'targeting'. It's more accurate.

 

[maquiscat]

BUT

This bill targets people I really hate and there’s the thinnest veneer of excuses to claim it’s not based on targeting people I don’t like and therefore no violation of rights

Fixed it for you, much shorter and more succinct

Blatant strawman is still strawman. Admitting to it, doesn't change the fallacy.

 

[SenorXm/Sirius]

OK, rather than using the word 'applicable', I think I should have said 'targeting'. It's more accurate.

If they were targeting CF the bill would go after ALL the CFs in NYS.. Not just a handful on the Truway...

 

[maquiscat]

I don’t even care about the PR. **** those perpetual victims pathetic feelings.

The bill in no way targets chik fil a, whose overpriced chicken and slow service make it clear to me that their success banks on pandering to Christian nationalist wackadoodles.

You might want to talk to you local franchise owner, because we don't have any in this area with slow service.

 

[maquiscat]

Yeah, I’m sure the other fast food outlets on the thruway rest stops are really heartbroken about more business on Sunday

I wonder if we should pass legislation mandating all government offices and all banks for that matter be open 7 days a week

Banks as private businesses would be a no. But I have long advocated that government offices be 7 days a week.

 

[Callen]

Especially considering that the restrictions appear to be only applicable to a single business, and, in fact, specifically written to target that one

The restrictions are applicable to all businesses leading those spaces. CF was not mentioned in the legislation but rather in a memo the Congressman wrote.

Were you just as indignant when Disney was singled out for punishment by DeSantis?

 

[maquiscat]

CF holds actual leases with the thruway.

If I read the article correctly, CFA doesn't, at least not directly. Applegreen is the one who is in an agreement with the state agency.

 

[maquiscat]

Seems like yet another case of the retards in NYC shooting themselves in the foot. They are essentially guaranteeing a successful franchise will not open new stores in their city thus not employing hundreds and potentially thousands. Seem like the same retards that also pulled their idiocy with Amazon.

Leftists are such tragic ****ing retards.

Are you claiming that CFA will not open new stores in NY because of this bill that only affects any potential stores on the thruways and ports, or are you thinking that bill applies to all CFA's statewide?

 

[Argent]

All the hand-wringing is over a nothing burger. Tiresome religious zealots cry about persecution and discrimination when business contract language is legally changed and cheer when a baker can legally refuse to bake cakes for customers they don't like.

"JUSTIFICATION:

The New York State Thruway Authority's Service Area Redesign and Rede-
velopment Project is currently rebuilding the 27 service areas along the
Thruway through a public-private partnership. The travelling public and
commercial trucking industry rely on these service areas to rest, refuel
and to purchase food and beverages. In 2021, the Thruway Authority
engaged Applegreen, an Irish convenience store chain, to take over the
leases of all service areas.

Applegreen's portfolio of companies include Chick-fil-A, which by compa-
ny policy is closed on Sundays, and which has already opened at seven
service areas. While there is nothing objectionable about a fast food
restaurant closing on a particular day of the week, service areas dedi-
cated to travelers is an inappropriate location for such a restaurant.
Publicly owned service areas should use their space to maximally benefit
the public. Allowing for retail space to go unused one seventh of the
week or more is a disservice and unnecessary inconvenience to travelers
who rely on these service areas.

This legislation will ensure that all future contracts for food conces-
sions at transportation facilities owned by the Thruway Authority, as
well as the Port Authority of New York and New Jersey, will be required
to operate seven days a week, with an exclusion to temporary concessions
such as farmers markets or local vendors."

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[maquiscat]

No - Kim Davis was a public employee. All restaurants are (rather famously) considered "Public Accommodations"; neither that nor this mean they are representing the government.

There was a reason I said akin to but not exactly he same. They still are in a government facility and as such must conform to the rules of the facility.

And, even if you were correct, here SCOTUS has already ruled against forcing government employees to work on Sunday unless they have serious need to do so.

The employees are not government employees. They are working inside a government facility. Not the same thing. If you want to consider that a legal loophole, then by all means. And that's before we look at the point that many of the actual employees themselves would be willing to work sundays, with only the company policy stopping them from doing so.

 

[Absentglare]

You might want to talk to you local franchise owner, because we don't have any in this area with slow service.

They are consistently rated the longest wait for drive thru. I don’t want to wait 10 minutes for a mediocre chicken sandwich with a soggy bun.

 

[Absentglare]

No - Kim Davis was a public employee. All restaurants are (rather famously) considered "Public Accommodations"; neither that nor this mean they are representing the government

And, even if you were correct, here SCOTUS has already ruled against forcing government employees to work on Sunday unless they have serious need to do so.

"We want four restaurants instead of three on Sundays" sounds like.... not a great response to that, especially given the fact that the author made it clear animus animated it.

They aren’t government employees and they certainly aren’t being forced to work. If they want the location, they can follow the law, or they can relocate.

 

[Absentglare]

It’s actually a fair point when you look at who submitted the legislation and their comments about CFA.

I’m not saying it’s bad legislation in that Service plaza vendors should be open 7/365 since weekends tend to be heavy travel time for families.

WW

Why is it a fair point? It doesn’t matter in the slightest.