New Quota of Rounding Up 3,000 Illegals Per Day

[stealthycat]

No. Anecdotes. Not facts. Just anecdotes.

And that is total bullshit. They ALL pay taxes, and the undocumented never get tax refunds. NEVER! And guess what else they never do?

Yes - who will pick our crops? - AND asylum. AND refugees. Conservatives are too stupid to come up with an answer to "who will pick our crops"? All they know is that they won't be doing it. But the rich will never have any problem putting food on the table. Only the middle and underclasses suffer from rising food prices. Never the 1%.

Wrong again. It can continue, and it will. Trump's kabuki theater won't even put a dent in it.

I'm surprised ya'll don't want endured servants again and legalize human trafficking

hey, gotta have someone to pick your crops right ?

 

[stealthycat]

And republicans never go after the employers.

neither party has, you're right

So they condone the putting out of milk while screaming about the cats it attracts. Do nothing about the draw while capitalizing on the political gains of harping on illegal immigrants.

It’s dishonest as ****.

both parties are, you're right

 

[Nickyjo]

It stops the transfer of illegal aliens while under arrest and already in state/local custody to ICE, instead of requiring ICE to try to find them after release. Folks aren’t arrested and placed in custody for a “routine traffic stop”.

As I recall from several years ago, the idea of sanctuary cities was to allow illegals to be free to report crimes or be witnesses in trials without fear of being referred to the INS (now ICE) and picked up. It was the legitimate needs of local authorities being served, putting off immigration enforcement. It will be interesting to see if Trump’s ICE invades churches.

The name sanctuary comes from the old rules and customs that those fleeing the authorities, which often were not just, could find safety in churches. The old Hunchback of Notre Dame had Charles Laughton as Quasimodo save Esmeralda from her execution by carrying her off to the cathedral and telling “Sanctuary! Sanctuary.” That film has one of the great Hollywood endings: Quasimodo has seen the gal he saved happy together with her handsome lover as he sits high up in one of the towers, sad and alone. He says, looking at the gargoyles, “Why wasn’t I made of stone like these?” The camera pulls away from the cathedral and he disappears from view.

 

[ttwtt78640]

As I recall from several years ago, the idea of sanctuary cities was to allow illegals to be free to report crimes or be witnesses in trials without fear of being referred to the INS (now ICE) and picked up.

Those folks aren’t arrested or held in state/local custody.

It was the legitimate needs of local authorities being served, putting off immigration enforcement. It will be interesting to see if Trump’s ICE invades churches.

The name sanctuary comes from the old rules and customs that those fleeing the authorities, which often were not just, could find safety in churches. The old Hunchback of Notre Dame had Charles Laughton as Quasimodo save Esmeralda from her execution by carrying her off to the cathedral and telling “Sanctuary! Sanctuary.” That film has one of the great Hollywood endings: Quasimodo has seen the gal he saved happy together with her handsome lover as he sits high up in one of the towers, sad and alone. He says, looking at the gargoyles, “Why wasn’t I made of stone like these?” The camera pulls away from the cathedral and he disappears from view.

 

[MamboDervish]

I'm surprised ya'll don't want endured servants again and legalize human trafficking

?? You probably meant to say "indentured servants" but perhaps weren't sufficiently educated to come up with the right word. That's OK. I can't always find the right word, either. As we all know, Trump loves the poorly educated. That's probably another reason why he's attacking Ivy League Universities - which is to say besides the fact that they refused him and his son admission. Also, his own "Trump University" was never accredited by anyone, for anything, other than FRAUD! - something Trump himself has always excelled at.

hey, gotta have someone to pick your crops right ?

That's RIGHT! But it's still hard to imagine a more impotent response from you. Hey - here's an idea. How about YOU try answering the damn question yourself. If not itinerant migrants, WHO IS GOING TO PICK THE CROPS? And how much do you think Americans will be paying for strawberries under your plan? Or perhaps you think strawberries should only be consumed by the 1% ... maybe to have with their Champaign? Feel free to make that argument. I'm sure you've given this plenty of thought ... right? At least enough to have a workable plan.

I'd love to hear it.

 

[rhinefire]

Good luck against a swat team who decide you need taking down.

Only a fool thinks he can beat the odds.......................well, not really. In a little tiny country called Viet Nam one half of thatcountry destroyed the most powerful military in the world.

 

[Nickyjo]

Those folks aren’t arrested or held in state/local custody.

I don’t understand the sentence above. The issue was to allow illegals to report crimes to local authorities without fear of federal authorities arresting them. Hence the prohibition on local officials notifying the immigration service.

 

[ttwtt78640]

I don’t understand the sentence above.

Folks who report and/or witness crimes aren’t arrested or held in custody.

The issue was to allow illegals to report crimes to local authorities without fear of federal authorities arresting them. Hence the prohibition on local officials notifying the immigration service.

 

[Noodlegawd]

Ummm, the crowds can’t interfere with them if they’re not there in their masks and no identifying badges or any damn else thing.

How exactly would they interfere with them doing their jobs…

If they’re weren’t there trying to do their jobs?

Did you think this through before posting it?

Yes, I did, but it's obvious you didn't. Why SHOULDN'T they be there doing their jobs?

Do you think there are wandering hordes of folks hoping some ICE will show up in walking distance?

It's happened multiple times, including a few days ago in San Diego. How do you figure they showed up?

 

[RF667799]

?? You probably meant to say "indentured servants" but perhaps weren't sufficiently educated to come up with the right word. That's OK. I can't always find the right word, either. As we all know, Trump loves the poorly educated. That's probably another reason why he's attacking Ivy League Universities - which is to say besides the fact that they refused him and his son admission. Also, his own "Trump University" was never accredited by anyone, for anything, other than FRAUD! - something Trump himself has always excelled at.

That's RIGHT! But it's still hard to imagine a more impotent response from you. Hey - here's an idea. How about YOU try answering the damn question yourself. If not itinerant migrants, WHO IS GOING TO PICK THE CROPS? And how much do you think Americans will be paying for strawberries under your plan? Or perhaps you think strawberries should only be consumed by the 1% ... maybe to have with their Champaign? Feel free to make that argument. I'm sure you've given this plenty of thought ... right? At least enough to have a workable plan.

I'd love to hear it.

"Champaign" is a city in Illinois. Perhaps you weren't sufficiently educated to know that.

 

[stealthycat]

That's RIGHT!

at least your honest .... gotta ship in those uneducated, unskilled people to do manual labor you don't want to do and pay them little to do it outside of US labor laws .... you side is SO great and kind !

But it's still hard to imagine a more impotent response from you. Hey - here's an idea. How about YOU try answering the damn question yourself. If not itinerant migrants, WHO IS GOING TO PICK THE CROPS?

people will pick the crops - stop this fear mongering that people won't be around to do the work. Please, its a big liberal lie

And how much do you think Americans will be paying for strawberries under your plan? Or perhaps you think strawberries should only be consumed by the 1% ... maybe to have with their Champaign? Feel free to make that argument. I'm sure you've given this plenty of thought ... right? At least enough to have a workable plan.

I'd love to hear it.

lets send back every illegal and keep a secured border - issue work permits, like a 3-6 months stay and no more with heavy fines for ovrerstaying, vetting and monitoring who's here and who isn't

if people will do McDonalds for $15 an hour, they'll pick crops for it too and, modern machinery is making picking crops much easier too, automation is a big part of the future

using slave labor shouldn't be accepted

 

[HangLow]

Nonsense.

The Removal System of the United States: An Overview

This fact sheet provides an explanation on how noncitizens may find themselves facing deportation from the country, how the removal proceeding may look, what types of relief can be sought after a removal order is issued, and ICE's role during the removal period.

www.americanimmigrationcouncil.org

This is Dangerous... There will be confrontations...
Sooner or later, innocent Americans will be killed...
But the rePukes will blame those deaths on Biden...
-Peace

 

[Nickyjo]

Folks who report and/or witness crimes aren’t arrested or held in custody.

Sorry, I believe you misunderstood. The issue was that local authorities would not notify the immigration service when if/when they discovered the person testifying or filing a police report was illegal.

 

[MamboDervish]

"Champaign" is a city in Illinois. Perhaps you weren't sufficiently educated to know that.

No doubt my voice recognition software was not.

 

[MamboDervish]

"Champaign" is a city in Illinois. Perhaps you weren't sufficiently educated to know that.

No doubt my voice recognition software was not. I usually edit my posts before I hit send - but only against worthy opponents.

 

[MamboDervish]

at least your honest .... gotta ship in those uneducated, unskilled people to do manual labor you don't want to do and pay them little to do it outside of US labor laws .... you side is SO great and kind !

Yes they are - as a general rule, much better than your side

people will pick the crops - stop this fear mongering that people won't be around to do the work. Please, its a big liberal lie

Are you really afraid?

lets send back every illegal and keep a secured border - issue work permits, like a 3-6 months stay and no more with heavy fines for ovrerstaying, vetting and monitoring who's here and who isn't

Sounds like a legislative issue. Be sure to take it up with your congressman.

if people will do McDonalds for $15 an hour, they'll pick crops for it too and,

Bullshit. You can tell yourself that lie, but it is wasted on me.

modern machinery is making picking crops much easier too, automation is a big part of the future

You know nothing about farming, either. No surprise. Just as I suspected, you don't have any plan to replace strawberry picking. You could have saved us both some time by just admitting you have no solution to replace itinerant migrant workers.

using slave labor shouldn't be accepted

And it isn't. These people aren't slaves. But it's good to hear you compare the work they do with slave labor. It kind of shoots your McDonald's comparison all to ****, doesn't it? Yes - is certainly does.

 

[RF667799]

No doubt my voice recognition software was not. I usually edit my posts before I hit send - but only against worthy opponents.

Oh. You did much the same thing you chose to insult another poster over...but you have "reasons".

Effective range of an excuse= 0 meters.

 

[MamboDervish]

Oh. You did much the same thing you chose to insult another poster over...but you have "reasons".

No, you are wrong. Firstly, it wasn't the same thing at all. I knew the word I wanted to use. They didn't. How did you miss that? Second, I didn't insult anyone. Read it again. Or not.

Effective range of an excuse= 0 meters.

Feel free to go play by yourself now.

 

[What if...?]

Yes, I did, but it's obvious you didn't. Why SHOULDN'T they be there doing their jobs?



It's happened multiple times, including a few days ago in San Diego.

I live in San Diego. That incident happened in the heart of a neighborhood. The owner of the restaurant is a local hero of sorts. There are a lot of people around most of the time. Coffee shop. Popular restaurants. A couple of bars. Word gets out. And people responded.

Do you have video evidence of wandering hordes of people gathered together to respond to an ICE raid?

Or are you just talking out the side of your neck?

 

[What if...?]

neither party has, you're right



both parties are, you're right

But only one is saying one thing and doing another.

Lying. Exploiting. Manipulating for power.

 

[stealthycat]

Yes they are - as a general rule, much better than your side

good news yesterday - your side got an illegal immigrant back that'll cost American taxpayers $$$$$$$$$$$$$$ - yay !!! the USA has unlimited money and judges and resources, we should do that for hundreds of millions of people every year, right ? unlimited !

Are you really afraid?

Afraid is not the right word - seriously concerned with 12-15 million living here illegally, the massive costs to US taxpayers, our resources like courts/schools, the murders/rapes/human & drug trafficking .... non of that should be in the USA, there should be no illegals here

Sounds like a legislative issue. Be sure to take it up with your congressman.

Bullshit. You can tell yourself that lie, but it is wasted on me.

you're wrong, and you know you are, you just want cheap slave labor

You know nothing about farming, either. No surprise. Just as I suspected, you don't have any plan to replace strawberry picking. You could have saved us both some time by just admitting you have no solution to replace itinerant migrant workers.

having grown up on a farm ? LOL see, making uninformed comments like that makes a person look really really foolish

you want $4 an hour strawberry pickers outside US labor laws, little slave laborer's illegally here , human trafficked, uneducated, unskilled, poverty level .... so you can have $1.99 strawberries

sick man ... its sick

And it isn't. These people aren't slaves. But it's good to hear you compare the work they do with slave labor. It kind of shoots your McDonald's comparison all to ****, doesn't it? Yes - is certainly does.

traffic them in like slaves
bring in the uneducated/unskilled - like slaves
keep them illegally here, always wondering if they'll be caught/deported - like slaves
no US Labor laws to protect them - like slaves

liberals want slave-ish labor, they absolutely do and they fight hard for it

GOP would deport ever illegally here person

there is your difference

 

[stealthycat]

But only one is saying one thing and doing another.

Lying. Exploiting. Manipulating for power.

well Trump HAS secured the border much much more so than Biden ever did

Trump has initiated tens of thousands of deportations of criminals

Trump has led to immigration changes absolutely and what do Democrats do ?

Democratic states double down on laws resisting Trump's immigration crackdown

Some Democratic-led states are doubling down on their resistance to President Donald Trump's crackdown on illegal immigration

abcnews.go.com

 

[Noodlegawd]

I live in San Diego. That incident happened in the heart of a neighborhood. The owner of the restaurant is a local hero of sorts. There are a lot of people around most of the time. Coffee shop. Popular restaurants. A couple of bars. Word gets out. And people responded.

Do you have video evidence of wandering hordes of people gathered together to respond to an ICE raid?

Or are you just talking out the side of your neck?

You can't possibly live in San Diego and not have seen the people blocking their vehicles, or the one of a mob pushing into ICE officers and bragging about how tough they were, and what cowards the officers were.

And then there's LA....

By the way, that local hero allegedly submitted I-9s with fake green card numbers for almost half his employees, which is either 19 little felonies, or one big one.....so there's that.

So it happened "in the heart of a neighborhood." That's where most people, including illegal aliens, can be found. Were you just talking out of the side of your neck when you asked about where all these unruly mobs might be coming from?

 

[What if...?]

You can't possibly live in San Diego and not have seen the people blocking their vehicles, or the one of a mob pushing into ICE officers and bragging about how tough they were, and what cowards the officers were.

And then there's LA....

By the way, that local hero allegedly submitted I-9s with fake green card numbers for almost half his employees, which is either 19 little felonies, or one big one.....so there's that.

So it happened "in the heart of a neighborhood." That's where most people, including illegal aliens, can be found. Were you just talking out of the side of your neck when you asked about where all these unruly mobs might be coming from?

Yes. That happened but it was a response to jackboot bullshit and I will always condone resistance to that kind of shit.

****ing cruelty theater to feed the addictions of fools.

 

[Noodlegawd]

Yes. That happened but it was a response to jackboot bullshit and I will always condone resistance to that kind of shit.

****ing cruelty theater to feed the addictions of fools.

Arresting people who violate the law is "jackboot bullshit" all of a sudden. Got it.

I bet you were really angry when CNN and 20 jackbooted thugs showed up at Roger Stone's house at 3am, weren't you?