Mueller releases memo summarizing FBI's interview with Michael Flynn

[tres borrachos]

You might be unto something. The Kremlin uses tougher hiring standards than the Trump White House. At the Trump WH these guys would get NSA advisor positions.

Sent from Trump Plaza's basement using Putin's MacBook.

Putin, like Trump, only hires the best. Toilet cleaning is an art, I hear.

 

[tres borrachos]

Keep waiting for that.

It just happened.

I'm glad you can admit that Flynn never asked for a lawyer. And was never denied a lawyer. It makes your fellow Trump Fans who are trying to make that argument look really dumb.

 

[akyron]

It just happened.

I'm glad you can admit that Flynn never asked for a lawyer. And was never denied a lawyer. It makes your fellow Trump Fans who are trying to make that argument look really dumb.

I guess we will find out soon exactly who is correct.

 

[Hatuey]

Russian collusion for two years is what we hear....All we get from you is manufactured bs process crimes.

So lying to the FBI, and being an undeclared foreign agent are 'manufactured crimes'...

You sure about this? Tell Lassie to run to that Flynn courthouse and save Michael, Akyron.

Make sure your concise legal arguments are easy enough for a 25 pound dog to carry.



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[tres borrachos]

I guess we will find out soon exactly who is correct.

Since you can't provide any evidence that he did, and Flynn never even claimed that he did, you already have your answer.

Tough day in Trump Fan Nation. I hope you all stocked up on adult diapers.

 

[Plus Ultra]

I wonder how Judge Sullivan is taking this, he requested the pertinent documentation, the 302 was withheld, and the day before he holds a sentencing hearing the prosecution belatedly turns in the 302, plus this report from Mueller summarizing his conclusions and evidence.

I would expect any judge to be upset the prosecutor didn't produce the evidence at the outset, this is why Sullivan issued that order from the court requiring the 302 within a week, then the prosecutor complies, but holds back the most relevant document and now on the verge of the hearing, turns up with the missing document. At the very least, Flynn's counsel would be entitled to review the 302 and Mueller's summary.

Prosecutors are supposed to provide the accused with all "exonerating evidence", if the accused can show the prosecutor didn't provide all the exonerating evidence the prosecutor had, the court is supposed to dismiss the charges. The fact Strzok was fired for impropriety directly related to the prosecutor's case against Flynn, is exonerating evidence and Mueller didn't tell Flynn. The destruction of evidence relating to that impropriety by the prosecutor is highly suspicious, as is the late delivery of this 302.

 

[MTAtech]

Being sure that a guy is dirty is no excuse for injustice, and if the people who run the system are so scared that they will not get the dirty guy that they go around justice then they should take this as their clue that the Justice system is as broken as I claim it is....and fix it.

When I read your posts, I read a person who is strategizing to bend-over-backwards to have Trump evade law enforcement, no less than Al Capone's lawyers did -- not a person who gives a damn about their country. You deflect from criminal activity and claim law enforcement, not the person being charged with criminality, is the problem.

 

[SLC]

Not as much as I enjoy watching Trump fans lie and get caught.

I agree it must be more satisfying than watching Hillary and Fans lie and get away with it. :roll:

 

[tres borrachos]

I agree it must be more satisfying than watch Hillary and Fans lie and get away with it. :roll:

You'd have to take that up with someone other me, since I'm neither Hillary Clinton nor one of her fans. Or are you confusing me with Donald Trump, who insisted Mrs. Clinton was one the best Secretaries of State ever, was a great woman, and would make a wonderful President?

 

[ashurbanipal]

Because those who have proved willing to die for us have earned better treatment...lets start there.

Seems obviously false to me. That's been the excuse of every aristocrat and monarch in history, more or less. Service, understood properly, is not an exchange--I give you this service and then you do something for me. That's work. Service is doing something without any expectation of any special privilege or reward, and as far as I can tell, Flynn deserves none.

Anyway, also as far as I can tell, Flynn was never in a place where he could "die for us." He was a senior commander in Iraq and Afghanistan; the only time he was actually anywhere close to real fighting was in Grenada, and even had he been killed there, that could hardly have been described as "dying for us."

 

[Hatuey]

I agree it must be more satisfying than watching Hillary and Fans lie and get away with it. :roll:

Hillary isn't president. Trump is. Focus.

Sent from Trump Plaza's basement using Putin's MacBook.

 

[tres borrachos]

Well, Trump Fans. Your boy didn't take any of your advice. In fact, just the opposite. He admitted that he knew that lying to the FBI was a crime.

Game over. Next time hitch your carts to a better horse.

https://www.debatepolitics.com/breaking-news-mainstream-media/340833-flynn-aware-lying-fbi-investigators-crime.html

 

[Athanasius68]

Okay, so you're going with the claim that a 3 star general, with an university level education, privately paid lawyers, and every legal luxury not afforded to you over anything more extreme than a DUI, did not know he could have a lawyer present at all times.... and the FBI is responsible for that?

You aren't a real person because of opinions like the above.

Sent from Trump Plaza's basement using Putin's MacBook.

Its probably because Strzok was known as a counter-intelligence guy and a not a criminal guy. No reason for Flynn to wonder.

 

[Visbek]

Mirandizing is a civil right to prevent people from self incrimination you implied Flynn didn't need to be afforded that basic civil right. So YES you certainly implied that Flynn should not be afforded a basic civil right.

Bull****.

The Miranda warning is only required when a suspect is actually taken into custody. The police can question you all they want, without giving any sort of warning first. This happens all the time, it is 100% normal.

Plus, Flynn used to be the head of the DIA. He absolutely knew that lying to the FBI was a crime. He did it anyway, he was caught, he pleaded guilty. The idea that he is an innocent naif is delusional.

Don't you find it odd that team Mueller and Rosenstein won't let Congressional oversight talk with the second FBI agent or see his notes from the interview and there are 3 versions of the 302 and the 302 that Mueller is working off of is dated 7 months after the interview and the SP did not turn over the original 302 when ordered by the judge necessitating a second demand to produce it by the judge. Something stinks. The FBI and the SP are not behaving above board.

Uh, hello? Mueller gave the court the original 302s. Those documents, by the way, show that he knew why he was being question and yeah, he lied about it.

As to Congress? Get real. In addition to the ridiculous escapades pulled by "Detective Nunes," Congress leaks like a sieve. Both parties leak, we've seen it happen over and over. The FBI/DOJ is going to tell Congress the absolute minimum.

 

[Hatuey]

Its probably because Strzok was known as a counter-intelligence guy and a not a criminal guy. No reason for Flynn to wonder.

Lol, no such distinction exists in the real world. Anything you say to a LEO while in custody can be used against you. You know like lies you might use when talking to an FBI agent, or lies about being a foreign agent...

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[SLC]

You'd have to take that up with someone other me, since I'm neither Hillary Clinton nor one of her fans. Or are you confusing me with Donald Trump, who insisted Mrs. Clinton was one the best Secretaries of State ever, was a great woman, and would make a wonderful President?

Hey even I warmed up on her a little as SOS until Benghazi. Then I found out about her secret private server and all the lies that came out with that can of worms. Trump was the only choice to keep her out of office. I just don't like how the Left is trying to sandbag his administration.

 

[Atomic Kid]

Its probably because Strzok was known as a counter-intelligence guy and a not a criminal guy. No reason for Flynn to wonder.

The agents each identified themselves for Flynn and reiterated what it was they were there to discuss before the interview was begun. No question Flynn understood the nature of the discussion.

 

[Visbek]

I wonder how Judge Sullivan is taking this....

Steven Portnoy is reporting that after giving Flynn multiple chances to walk back the guilty plea, Sullivan basically unleashed the Kraken. Sounds like Sullivan was furious that that Flynn lied to the FBI in the White House, and sold out his country. He asked the prosecutors if they considered charging Flynn with treason, and is talking about jail time.

I'm gonna go out on a limb and say yeah, Sullivan is over it.

Prosecutors are supposed to provide the accused with all "exonerating evidence"...

1) I'm not even sure this case got to the discovery phase. Flynn flipped almost immediately.

2) The original 302 supports the FBI's claims and the guilty plea.

 

[j-mac]

Okay, so you're going with the claim that a 3 star general, with an university level education, privately paid lawyers, and every legal luxury not afforded to you over anything more extreme than a DUI, did not know he could have a lawyer present at all times.... and the FBI is responsible for that?

You aren't a real person because of opinions like the above.

Sent from Trump Plaza's basement using Putin's MacBook.

No, I am saying that we treat everyone equally....If we are going to require that the least of criminals be informed of their rights before they are left open to incriminating themselves, then so should have Flynn...I'm not arguing that he should have, or would have known better. That is irrelevant. The fact of the matter is, it sure seems like they came close to, if not violated his rights.

 

[j-mac]

Suggesting he speak without a lawyer is not the same as denying him a lawyer. Flynn ultimately had a choice and he chose poorly.

You're absolutely right....He did choose poorly...And after this, NO ONE should ever talk to prosecutors, or FBI without a lawyer present, no matter how they try to say it will be easier without one.

 

[Hatuey]

No, I am saying that we treat everyone equally....If we are going to require that the least of criminals be informed of their rights before they are left open to incriminating themselves, then so should have Flynn...I'm not arguing that he should have, or would have known better. That is irrelevant. The fact of the matter is, it sure seems like they came close to, if not violated his rights.

Michael Flynn was the director of the DIA. He was NS advisor. He has multiple lawyers paid to be there whenever he needs them.

Do you think he doesn't know his rights?

Your position is a joke.

Sent from Trump Plaza's basement using Putin's MacBook.

 

[Manc Skipper]

You're absolutely right....He did choose poorly...And after this, NO ONE should ever talk to prosecutors, or FBI without a lawyer present, no matter how they try to say it will be easier without one.

On the contrary, he chose well, which is why he's not looking at three years like Cohen, who ducked and dived.

 

[j-mac]

Why did you lie and why are you lying about your lies?

from the link


maybe in right wing land, 7 equals 0

WOW! 7 whole cases in 50 years? OMG! that's less than one per decade? You people and your literalism crack me up....

Ok smart guy, What was the last case of FARA violation that the DoJ prosecuted in Federal court, and what was the final adjudication? Should be easy for an honest bloke like you....

 

[j-mac]

Michael Flynn was the director of the DIA. He was NS advisor. He has multiple lawyers paid to be there whenever he needs them.

Do you think he doesn't know his rights?

Your position is a joke.

Sent from Trump Plaza's basement using Putin's MacBook.

So, does law enforcement get to pick and choose whom they inform of their rights?

 

[j-mac]

On the contrary, he chose well, which is why he's not looking at three years like Cohen, who ducked and dived.

We don't know what he is looking at....Seems Sullivan is not too happy with Flynn at the moment, and now Flynn is asking to delay sentencing, so he can testify in another matter....So, it looks like Flynn's people are thinking that the judge is NOT going to accept the prosecutions recommendation of 0 time....