My 'moral' position is "whatever floats your boat". If you don't have a problem with what you're doing and neither does your S.O., then there is no problem.In order to generate discussion, please answer any of the following questions:
1. What is your moral position toward swinging?
I practice monogamy when it suits me to practice it. I'd always welcome another agreed upon hot person into our bedroom though.Are you a person who practices monogammy but believe it is possible to have a happy and fulfilled swinging marriage? Are you a person who believes monogammy is the only morally justified means of being married?
Yes I do know, and have known some. Currently somewhat 'involved' with a swinging couple now. It would appear that their relationship is successful, and the folks I've known in the past had successful relationships as well. As successful as anyone else's.2. What is your experience with swingers? Do you personally know any swingers? In your opinion, is their relationship successful?
I am not married and never will be. But I have been in a number of long term committed relationships. I have, while within those relationships, sought other women to join us in our bed.3. Are you a swinger? Has it improved your relationship?
I have talked to some swinging couples who have been married over 50 years. They mention that they are very happy and fulfilled. The extramarital sex that both spouses allow in their marriages is purely recreational and is icing on the cake. Many people contend that having extra-marital sex is a lack of commitment. I don’t understand how this so called lack of commitment affects the fulfillment in these types of relationships. What I find baffling is the decision to still object to these types of marriages on moral grounds. From my perspective, morals only have meaning when they are designed to protect individuals from physical or emotional harm. Many swinging couples suffer no emotional harm from extramarital sex. Thus, the moral objection towards these couples remains baffling to me.
In order to generate discussion, please answer any of the following questions:
1. What is your moral position toward swinging? Are you a person who practices monogammy but believe it is possible to have a happy and fulfilled swinging marriage? Are you a person who believes monogammy is the only morally justified means of being married?
2. What is your experience with swingers? Do you personally know any swingers? In your opinion, is their relationship successful?
3. Are you a swinger? Has it improved your relationship?
I hope these questions will help you share your views.
That's an unrealistic claim. Cheating = lack of commitment, but if both partners are okay with it, then that's nonsense.I have talked to some swinging couples who have been married over 50 years. They mention that they are very happy and fulfilled. The extramarital sex that both spouses allow in their marriages is purely recreational and is icing on the cake. Many people contend that having extra-marital sex is a lack of commitment.
Fundamentalist beliefs are immune to common sense. There are people even today who believe the Earth is flat because of some literal interpretation of a Bible passage. People that out of touch with reality can't be phased with the facts, so don't even bother trying to understand how their minds work.I don’t understand how this so called lack of commitment affects the fulfillment in these types of relationships. What I find baffling is the decision to still object to these types of marriages on moral grounds. From my perspective, morals only have meaning when they are designed to protect individuals from physical or emotional harm. Many swinging couples suffer no emotional harm from extramarital sex. Thus, the moral objection towards these couples remains baffling to me.
I have no problem with it. I don't see any reason that a swinging couple couldn't have a successful marriage.In order to generate discussion, please answer any of the following questions:
1. What is your moral position toward swinging? Are you a person who practices monogammy but believe it is possible to have a happy and fulfilled swinging marriage?
No. That's nonsense. And ironically, it's the couples who spout that nonsense who have the ****tiest marriages around (at least in my experience).Are you a person who believes monogammy is the only morally justified means of being married?
No, so I don't know.3. Are you a swinger? Has it improved your relationship?
What "vows"? Those "vows" are (obviously) not intended as literal, nor should they be - since you'd be making a promise you cannot possibly keep, and therefore lying. (ex. If your spouse started doing heroin around his kids, any sane person would get a divorce, vows or not). Many types of wedding ceremonies don't even have the "vows" as part of the tradition.What's the point of getting married if you're not going to honor your vows? :unsure13:
What's the point of getting married if you're not going to honor your vows? :unsure13:
Some people get married with NO vows stated. Some write their own. I've not ever heard any vows that stated "will not have sex with anyone else"
I think that Catholic Priests are required to take that vow before receiving their first altar boy buttsex session.I've not ever heard any vows that stated "will not have sex with anyone else"
If people want to swing then swing away. It never was and is never gonna be something that is appealing to me in any way.What is your moral position toward swinging?
A happy marriage is defined by the couple so yeah, any couple can be happy regardless if they're swingers or monogamous.Are you a person who practices monogammy but believe it is possible to have a happy and fulfilled swinging marriage?
Yeah, for me it is the only way. Like I said earlier, live and let live but for when it comes to me? It's the only way I would be happily married.Are you a person who believes monogammy is the only morally justified means of being married?
NoneWhat is your experience with swingers?
NopeDo you personally know any swingers?
Many people contend that having extra-marital sex is a lack of commitment. I don’t understand how this so called lack of commitment affects the fulfillment in these types of relationships.
What I find baffling is the decision to still object to these types of marriages on moral grounds. From my perspective, morals only have meaning when they are designed to protect individuals from physical or emotional harm. Many swinging couples suffer no emotional harm from extramarital sex. Thus, the moral objection towards these couples remains baffling to me.
1. What is your moral position toward swinging? Are you a person who practices monogammy but believe it is possible to have a happy and fulfilled swinging marriage? Are you a person who believes monogammy is the only morally justified means of being married?
2. What is your experience with swingers? Do you personally know any swingers? In your opinion, is their relationship successful?
3. Are you a swinger? Has it improved your relationship?
1. What is your moral position toward swinging? Are you a person who practices monogammy but believe it is possible to have a happy and fulfilled swinging marriage?
YEAH!!! Why in the hell did you get married then!?!?!Are you a person who believes monogammy is the only morally justified means of being married?
It disgusts me. Makes me SICK. Something is very wrong mentally IMO.2. What is your experience with swingers? Do you personally know any swingers? In your opinion, is their relationship successful?
3. Are you a swinger? Has it improved your relationship?
That was sarcasm, right?Its freakin SICK! You marry because of friendship and love. Someone has sex with my wife I would..... do something verrrrrrrrrrrrrrry NOT good.
YEAH!!! Why in the hell did you get married then!?!?!
It disgusts me. Makes me SICK. Something is very wrong mentally IMO.
YUK!! ICK! BLECK!
**Shrug** Some people prefer Coke, some prefer Pepsi and both have good reasons, as far as they are concerned, for making that choice.I have talked to some swinging couples who have been married over 50 years. They mention that they are very happy and fulfilled. The extramarital sex that both spouses allow in their marriages is purely recreational and is icing on the cake. Many people contend that having extra-marital sex is a lack of commitment. I don’t understand how this so called lack of commitment affects the fulfillment in these types of relationships. What I find baffling is the decision to still object to these types of marriages on moral grounds. From my perspective, morals only have meaning when they are designed to protect individuals from physical or emotional harm. Many swinging couples suffer no emotional harm from extramarital sex. Thus, the moral objection towards these couples remains baffling to me.
I'm polyamorous but not a swinger. I have very neutral feelings towards swinging. I'd be interested to try it for the experience, but I have no burning desire or urge to try it. I think that some people are happier in monogamous relationships while others are happier in polyamorous ones. Please dont confuse polyamory and swinging, they are markedly different ideas.In order to generate discussion, please answer any of the following questions:
1. What is your moral position toward swinging? Are you a person who practices monogammy but believe it is possible to have a happy and fulfilled swinging marriage? Are you a person who believes monogammy is the only morally justified means of being married?
Most swingers I've known are simply very sexually voracious people, they arent crazy or addicted to sex, their sexual drives are simply higher than what you could call the average and swinging is a way to help that. It works best if both people in a relationship are not only ok with but are actively looking to get into swinging.2. What is your experience with swingers? Do you personally know any swingers? In your opinion, is their relationship successful?
My fiancee and I have broached the subject. She's not interested in the least and I cant say I'm terribly broken up that she isnt, again, I'm very neutral on the idea.3. Are you a swinger? Has it improved your relationship?
Unfortunately, I don't think it is sarcasm. I think the poster has no plans on being open minded towards the lifestyle in any fashion.That was sarcasm, right?
I believe commitment is absolutely essential to marriage, but I don't see commitment and sex as being necessarily related. If spouses can uphold their commitments to each other while having extra-marital sex, more power to them. Unfortunately, from my experiences with the swinging lifestyle, I have seen more relationships ruined by it than strengthened by it, including my parents' marriage and my own recently failed engagement. (Not to say that there were not other significant problems in those relationships.) I think swinging requires a great deal of extra commitment on the parts of the spouses to keep their marriage working, and I remain skeptical of most peoples' ability to successfully navigate such a relationship.
Based on my findings, I have seen many swingers who have had 1 extramarital partner per year. I don't think that is promiscuous. I am sure there are swinging couples who have had 500 couples per year but I don't see how swinging is innately promiscuous. This would imply that you know a couple's ability for sexual restraint. Can you explain why you feel that way?I think swinging encourages promiscuity and excessive risk-taking. It's not necessarily morally degenerate on its own, but it is closely associated with other degenerate behaviors.
From my experience elderly swingers who have been swinging for 50 years seem pretty happy to me. I think a lot of monogamous couples are more miserable than are willing to admit. I think both systems have happy and miserable people.I think more couples suffer harm than are willing to admit it.
What type of issues did they have?I've known many swingers. I haven't known any with a history of stable and healthy relationships.
What's the point of getting married if you're not going to honor your vows? :unsure13:
The vast majority of people who know me know I am polyamorous. My family doesn't, I dont feel its something they could handle well.I am curious. Have you revealed your lifestyle to your close friends? How did they react?
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