Lagerfeld: 'Paris nightmare now'...

[MickeyW]

My ancestors are Slovene and Italian, so no.

Not at all like Haiti.

Haiti is an independent nation. Guadeloupe is a French overseas département, just like Hawaii being a US state that happens to be miles away overseas. Guadeloupe is France, its citizens are French, they are not foreign nationals.

I'm not getting at you, but the information you quoted really is incorrect.

None of my Austrian or Italian friends and relatives are happy about the Muslim hoard.

 

[Kiwimac]

Aha yeah right.

In this world hatred ceases not by Hatred. It ceases only by love.

 

[Chagos]

None of my Austrian or Italian friends and relatives are happy about the Muslim hoard.

Is that where the fiends of Mahound stash their stuff? :mrgreen:

P.S. is there any country in Europe where you don't have friends? And how do you keep up with them all when you so vehemently refuse to ever visit Europe? :lamo

 

[Urethra Franklin]

I know that residents living in France that are from Guadeloupe are not considered foreign nationals,

They're not considered foreign nationals because they're not foreign nationals, they're French.

that's just what the link said.

So how reliable a source is it? It's wrong.

The point of my comment didn't really have much to do with Guadeloupe anyway.

However I think Guadeloupe was up there, No? What's your screen name again?

 

[truthatallcost]

They're not considered foreign nationals because they're not foreign nationals, they're French.



So how reliable a source is it? It's wrong.



However I think Guadeloupe was up there, No? What's your screen name again?

The link is in that other comment, go have a look.

By the way, what 2 things does Houston and Guadeloupe have in common ?
I'll give you a hint; one is absurdly high rape levels, now you guess the other.

 

[Urethra Franklin]

Muslim immigrant= terrorist/criminal.

Gosh I must tell my muslim boyfriend, and his family, and the muslim friends and colleagues I have. I'm not sure they're aware.
I really hadn't realised that while my mother-in-law was making her Yassa it was really chicken TNT.

Not all of course,

Not all, not most. A very small minority. You insult millions of decent people above.

but sorting them out is a nightmare....

Sorting out terrorists in any community is a nightmare. Sorting out criminals in any communities is a nightmare. You have many in your crime ridden cities and guess what? Lots of them aren't muslims.

one France foolishly decided to accept.

It's foolish to accept sorting out terrorists and criminals? I would have thought it's what any state with an interest in the rule of law does.

Now............instead of the regular run of the mill criminals, by allowing the Muslim hoard into Europe, you all have an unbearable additional burden of criminals aka terrorists.....and that is dangerous for all.

I don't see a muslim hoard anywhere. I do see immigration which is a feature of any outward looking nation (including the USA). I do see desperate people fleeing a tragic situation in Iraq and Syria (which George W. Bush and Tony Blair kick-started; did Fox News even report the Chilcott Report?) and I yes I do believe asylum seekers need to be screened and processed with fairness and compassion. Much of your own criminality is often blamed on "hoards" of Mexicans, however I personally don't believe you have hoards of them, and they're usually Catholic, not muslim. Nor do I believe that all or most Mexicans are criminals.

Some muslims commit terrorist acts - would you use the same argument to suggest that most Mexican catholics are paedophiles? Not all the paedophiles we've ever known have been cathiolic priests and hey, not all terrorists are muslim.

You may love them, but thousands do not!

I don't love any group of people, not least terrorists. But I don't generalise and stigmatise an entire group of people nor do I demonise one specific group for all the world's ills. We did that in the 30s, and that ended very nicely didn't it?

 

[Urethra Franklin]

None of my Austrian or Italian friends and relatives are happy about the Muslim hoard.

Perhaps the clue is in the fact that they're your friends.

 

[Urethra Franklin]

The link is in that other comment, go have a look.

You have claimed that people from Guadeloupe are foreign nationals in France, then blamed it on your source. Just admit you got it wrong. Had you ever even heard of Guadeloupe before today?

By the way, what 2 things does Houston and Guadeloupe have in common ?
I'll give you a hint; one is absurdly high rape levels,

Souurce for rape levels in Guadeloupe please?

now you guess the other.

That many of their residents are often the victims of racist assumptions?

 

[truthatallcost]

Guadeloupe has France's highest crime rate.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2011/dec/27/young-crime-unemployment-guadeloupe-france

France’s overseas territories, in particular French Guiana, Caribbean islands Martinique and Guadeloupe, amount to the largest number of reported rapes, the daily said.

Number of Reported Rapes in France Surges by Almost 20% in 5 Years

 

[Urethra Franklin]

Guadeloupe has France's highest crime rate.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2011/dec/27/young-crime-unemployment-guadeloupe-france

France’s overseas territories, in particular French Guiana, Caribbean islands Martinique and Guadeloupe, amount to the largest number of reported rapes, the daily said.

Number of Reported Rapes in France Surges by Almost 20% in 5 Years

Yes, not dissimilar to the crime surges in other Caribbean islands like Barbados, for which the reasons are many and complex, but not the one you're alluding to.
Your screen name is somewhat misleading.

And none of that makes people from Guadeloupe foreign nationals in their own country.

 

[Absentglare]

None of my Austrian or Italian friends and relatives are happy about the Muslim hoard.

None of the voices in my head are happy about the Trump hoard.

 

[MickeyW]

Is that where the fiends of Ma hound stash their stuff? :mrgreen:

P.S. is there any country in Europe where you don't have friends? And how do you keep up with them all when you so vehemently refuse to ever visit Europe? :lamo

Sure, most countries.

I had to look up Ma hound, never heard of them.

Gosh I must tell my muslim boyfriend, and his family, and the muslim friends and colleagues I have. I'm not sure they're aware.
I really hadn't realised that while my mother-in-law was making her Yassa it was really chicken TNT.

Not all, not most. A very small minority. You insult millions of decent people above.


Sorting out terrorists in any community is a nightmare. Sorting out criminals in any communities is a nightmare. You have many in your crime ridden cities and guess what? Lots of them aren't muslims.



It's foolish to accept sorting out terrorists and criminals? I would have thought it's what any state with an interest in the rule of law does.





I don't see a muslim hoard anywhere. I do see immigration which is a feature of any outward looking nation (including the USA). I do see desperate people fleeing a tragic situation in Iraq and Syria (which George W. Bush and Tony Blair kick-started; did Fox News even report the Chilcott Report?) and I yes I do believe asylum seekers need to be screened and processed with fairness and compassion. Much of your own criminality is often blamed on "hoards" of Mexicans, however I personally don't believe you have hoards of them, and they're usually Catholic, not muslim. Nor do I believe that all or most Mexicans are criminals.

Some muslims commit terrorist acts - would you use the same argument to suggest that most Mexican catholics are paedophiles? Not all the paedophiles we've ever known have been cathiolic priests and hey, not all terrorists are muslim.



I don't love any group of people, not least terrorists. But I don't generalise and stigmatise an entire group of people nor do I demonise one specific group for all the world's ills. We did that in the 30s, and that ended very nicely didn't it?

That was a rounding up and execution of 6 million Jews, many who had been born and raised in Germany and Poland.. Stalin killed even more. I'm not talking about wholesale slaughter, just stopping the influx. Entirely different matter and no comparison. Why don't they go to another Muslim country?

Perhaps the clue is in the fact that they're your friends.

Perhaps the clue is in the fact that they are very Conservative and do not like the way their government is handling....mismanaging.......... the affairs of state.

Southern Italy is a damn mess due to the rif raf of boat people. From what I see in the news and hear from people over there, Serbia, Croatia, Hungary, Austria, Germany and France..... are no better off.

 

[Infinite Chaos]

I hear you IC (would you be IC3?

Nice one.

~ there are times when I get very bored with it all and can't be bothered. And then there are other times when you just know that ignorance and bigotry have to be challlenged at every turn, even in an insignificant arena like DP. So please don't stop Pete, bring it on.

Urethra, IC1, (merrily $hagging a muslim IC3 - who isn't a rapist).

Yeah, right now though with Brexit and the consequences, there are real matters to discuss.

When you realise most of these posters are doing this out of displacement anger over the high immigration of Mexicans and their inability to do anything about it they then come and point a finger over here to make themselves feel better.

Even to the point of highly selected passages from an old Stacey Dooley video as you see on another thread. Basically, that thread is "we want free speech for anyone except muslims" and they never get the irony when you point out the video is basically about free speech.

I ask myself everytime that video is linked - why didn't you show the whole video? Why didn't you make the point that is Anjem Choudhary's protest - soon as you do that, there is nothing to discuss and no faux outrage to have.

See ya on another thread, no matter who quotes me to try and bait me back in.

 

[Urethra Franklin]

That was a rounding up and execution of 6 million Jews, many who had been born and raised in Germany and Poland.. Stalin killed even more. I'm not talking about wholesale slaughter, just stopping the influx. Entirely different matter and no comparison. .

It started with scapegoating them and blaming them for the world's ills. You are going down the same road.

Southern Italy is a damn mess due to the rif raf of boat people. .

When you speak of rif-raf, do you include petrified people who've lost everything fleeing for their lives? Lone children trekking across a continent because their parents are dead?

From what I see in the news and hear from people over there.

Fox news?

 

[MickeyW]

It started with scapegoating them and blaming them for the world's ills. You are going down the same road.

When you speak of rif-raf, do you include petrified people who've lost everything fleeing for their lives? Lone children trekking across a continent because their parents are dead?

Fox news?

Don't watch Fox News except local stuff.
Most of these people are able bodied males
No I'm not going down the same road at all.....all I want is for the countries to deport them as soon as they arrive. Send them to Saudi Arabia, or Turkey or Russia.

UPDATE: Clooney neighbors say Lake Como RUINED by migrants...

'We don't want ANY refugees here'...
George Clooney's Lake Como neighbours say it is being ruined by migrants | Daily Mail Online

I've been to Lake Como Region and I wouldn't want it ruined by rif-raf either!

 

[Higgins86]

KL has a point. Paris has been on a downward path ever since I left in June 1940. Not that I'm saying that my departure was the only reason ....

Yes I imagine the liberation of Paris was quite a blow to far right people like yourself.

 

[Urethra Franklin]

Don't watch Fox News except local stuff.
Most of these people are able bodied males
No I'm not going down the same road at all.....all I want is for the countries to deport them as soon as they arrive. Send them to Saudi Arabia, or Turkey or Russia.

UPDATE: Clooney neighbors say Lake Como RUINED by migrants...

'We don't want ANY refugees here'...
George Clooney's Lake Como neighbours say it is being ruined by migrants | Daily Mail Online

I've been to Lake Como Region and I wouldn't want it ruined by rif-raf either!

Daily Mail, LOL. The Brits are all hysterical at this point.

You've been to Lake Como. As a tourist? Did you have a conversation with an enlightened taxi driver and hence now spout, "My Italian friends......" And your imaginary ones?


Turkey has not been redundant in this issue. If you are fleeing tyranny, why would you want to go to Putin's Russia? And why would you condemn women and gays to live in oppressive Saudi Arabia? Such people come to us for freedom and it's our duty to process asylum seekers and treat genuine cases with compasssion. Period.

So when you repeat the term rif raf, you don't deny that you include in that group of people petrified people who've lost everything fleeing for their lives, and lone children trekking across a continent because their parents are dead? You sound like a lovely person.

 

[MickeyW]

Germany Took In 'Entire Population of Houston' Last Year...

More than 2.1 million immigrants were registered, according to provisional results from the Federal Statistics Office. That represents a 46 percent year-on-year increase and is almost as many people who live in Houston, the fourth-largest city in the U.S.

The new statistics also showed that a total of 998,000 people departed from Germany in 2015, a 9 percent increase compared to the previous year.

Officials noted that the overall "balance of arrivals and departures across Germany's borders, is the highest in the history" of the country.
Germany Took in the Entire Population of Houston Last Year - NBC News



Good place to get away from.

 

[MickeyW]

Daily Mail, LOL. The Brits are all hysterical at this point.

You've been to Lake Como. As a tourist? Did you have a conversation with an enlightened taxi driver and hence now spout, "My Italian friends......" And your imaginary ones?


Turkey has not been redundant in this issue. If you are fleeing tyranny, why would you want to go to Putin's Russia? And why would you condemn women and gays to live in oppressive Saudi Arabia? Such people come to us for freedom and it's our duty to process asylum seekers and treat genuine cases with compasssion. Period.

So when you repeat the term rif raf, you don't deny that you include in that group of people petrified people who've lost everything fleeing for their lives, and lone children trekking across a continent because their parents are dead? You sound like a lovely person.

I have no imaginary friends.....try staying on topic. I was in the Lakes Region in '04, the area great and was virtually free of rif-raf.

To me, there comes a point in time when a country has to say No MAS! And that time has passed! I'm not a bleeding heart for the rest of the world.

How much is it costing you in taxes, to pay for all this crapola?

How many do you talk to who are leaving, or have left, because the government is nuts?

 

[MickeyW]

None of the voices in my head are happy about the Trump hoard.

Too bad, I'm thinking he will be far better than Hillary.

The Hillary hoard is more of the same, establishment elitists controlling the peons.

 

[MickeyW]

btw UF, I'm not a fan of the UN either. They run counter to American Independence and Freedoms. Their anti-gun stance is at the top of my list of dickwad ideology.
Socialism ...sucks! liberalism....sucks! Bleeding heart liberals....suck!

 

[Urethra Franklin]

I have no imaginary friends.....try staying on topic. I was in the Lakes Region in '04, the area great and was virtually free of rif-raf.

To me, there comes a point in time when a country has to say No MAS! And that time has passed! I'm not a bleeding heart for the rest of the world.

How much is it costing you in taxes, to pay for all this crapola?

How many do you talk to who are leaving, or have left, because the government is nuts?

Unlike you, the expert on Italian public opinion who once went on holiday to lago di Como 12 years ago, I don't have to pretend to have Italian friends. Half my family is Italian and their take and the take of my Italian friends on this issue is many and varied, as you'd expect it to be. In the main, people realise that there's a huge problem which stretches beyond Italy's borders, you only need to see the numbers arriving to see that. However the intelligent, level headed people realise that the real answer lies in searching for political, economic and social solutions in their countries of origin. Bush's war on terror didn't achieve that, it made matters worse. "Send the rif-raf" home is neither the intelligent nor the compassionate answer. Neither is erroneously suggesting that all muslim men are rapists.

People arriving on our shores need to be treated like human beings, processed and assessed, and genuine asylum seekers considered for permanent re-setttlement. Economic migrants need to be considered on their merits according to immigration law. Some chancers need to be sent back, but that's not the people fleeing everything in terror, nor those seeking a better life because our world economic and political systems make their lives utter ****. Everybody deserves to be treated decently. Every one of those people ruining the view for plastic Donatella is a human being.

I'm an immigrant to France myself, as I was to the UK as a child. You may consiedr me rif-raf, but I can assure you, none of my family members are rapists, and neither is my muslim boyfriend nor his family members. You are insulting to the nth degree.

Taxes? Somebody once said he loved paying taxes because that's what bought him a civilised society. Now if you're not familiar with the quote loook it up - the person who said that was neither European nor Arab nor muslim!

 

[Urethra Franklin]

btw UF, I'm not a fan of the UN either. They run counter to American Independence and Freedoms. Their anti-gun stance is at the top of my list of dickwad ideology.

I find it amazing that with all the innocent people being slaughtered in the USA you people still don't see the light on gun control.

Socialism ...sucks! liberalism....sucks! Bleeding heart liberals....suck!

Delighted to see your full intellectual capacities laid bare. Could you perhaps deconstruct that for us in a post-modern context, using a critical theory approach?

 

[MickeyW]

Unlike you, the expert on Italian public opinion who once went on holiday to lago di Como 12 years ago, I don't have to pretend to have Italian friends. Half my family is Italian and their take and the take of my Italian friends on this issue is many and varied, as you'd expect it to be. In the main, people realise that there's a huge problem which stretches beyond Italy's borders, you only need to see the numbers arriving to see that. However the intelligent, level headed people realise that the real answer lies in searching for political, economic and social solutions in their countries of origin. Bush's war on terror didn't achieve that, it made matters worse. "Send the rif-raf" home is neither the intelligent nor the compassionate answer. Neither is erroneously suggesting that all muslim men are rapists.

People arriving on our shores need to be treated like human beings, processed and assessed, and genuine asylum seekers considered for permanent re-setttlement. Economic migrants need to be considered on their merits according to immigration law. Some chancers need to be sent back, but that's not the people fleeing everything in terror, nor those seeking a better life because our world economic and political systems make their lives utter ****. Everybody deserves to be treated decently. Every one of those people ruining the view for plastic Donatella is a human being.

I'm an immigrant to France myself, as I was to the UK as a child. You may consiedr me rif-raf, but I can assure you, none of my family members are rapists, and neither is my muslim boyfriend nor his family members. You are insulting to the nth degree.

Taxes? Somebody once said he loved paying taxes because that's what bought him a civilised society. Now if you're not familiar with the quote loook it up - the person who said that was neither European nor Arab nor muslim!

I've spent months in Europe, not just a holiday...I ride Italian motorcycles and spent a lot of time talking with a lot of people.

I'm happy that you are happy, but I want no part of France or Germany.

I find it amazing that with all the innocent people being slaughtered in the USA you people still don't see the light on gun control.

What would be the "light" on gun control? You wouldn't have a clue, but I had to ask.

 

[Urethra Franklin]

I'm happy that you are happy, but I want no part of France or Germany.

I think we can safely say that feeling's probably mutual.

What would be the "light" on gun control? You wouldn't have a clue, but I had to ask.

Not going to be strayed off topic. You mentioned the UN and gun control - start another thread if you wish.