LA couple moves to Mexico over deportation fears

[Chock Full o Nuts]

An LA couple moved to Mexico to avoid deportation. They racked up $20K in debt, but are feeling more hopeful they can build a life together.

Alfredo Linares and Raegan Klein closed their business to move to Mexico, but it was worth it to avoid getting separated if Linares was deported.

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Linares, who had worked his way up in fine dining to become a cook in a Michelin Star restaurant, arrived in the US as a teenager at 19 with his family and has lived here illegally ever since. Klein, a US citizen, was stricken with worry that at any moment, her husband could be arrested and deported.

Well, at least we're admitting to not doing things by the books.

The couple received around $10,000 in cash from their parents as a wedding gift. They had originally hoped to use the money to hire a lawyer to help Linares gain citizenship, but they wrestled with the best way to use the money to secure a future together.

Sure you did. What stopped you from doing so?

"Do we really go ahead and gamble and trust this administration with this $10,000 that our parents gave us for our wedding gifts, or do we use that $10,000 to move to Mexico?" Klein said of their dilemma.

You've been together since last summer during Bidens administration, and your hubby has had 20 years to work toward citizenship.

Since the move, they've attempted to find jobs in hospitality, but because Linares doesn't have an identification card and Klein doesn't have work authorization as a temporary resident, it's been difficult to pay the bills.

"We're not earning an income," Klein said. "We have all of that stress and try to keep our credit card in a reasonable place and keep ourselves on a budget."

The biggest hurdle for them has been navigating the deluge of paperwork and bureaucracy in a new country.

So you're saying you're having a hard time trying to legally live and work in Mexico? Well I'll be....

Still trying to understand what stopped Alfredo from working toward US citizenship for 20 years. Oh, that's right. Because no need to worry about those pesky immigration laws in America. That's only to be followed in other countries.

This story doesn't read like the 'feel bad for us' story they were seeming to go for.

 

[Jezcoe]

Deporting a person who has been a productive member of society for 20 years because he crossed an imaginary line when he was 19 isn't going to make this country any greater.

 

[Jack2aTee]

We're seeing it already. Read carefully:

Collapse won't look like some sudden disaster. It’s already happening, quietly, gradually. Every day, life gets a little harder. All the President's men who eat, sleep and breathe hate chasing and scaring Americans out of their own country, rent rises, wages shrink, apartments get smaller, work hours get longer. Seeing friends and family less, and caring less, too.

Lowering your standards for everything. Jobs, food, relationships. Job security barely exists anymore. People hold onto worn-out clothes, fewer get married, even fewer have kids. Most of us are just buried in our phones, numbing ourselves with distractions, disconnected from reality.

The dreams we once had for our lives feel distant now, like echoes. What’s left is debt, exhaustion, and the constant pressure to survive. And yet, every day, we’re told we’re free, safe, and prosperous.

But this is what collapse really looks like. Not fire or chaos, just the slow erosion of meaning, until we forget what it felt like to hope for something better.

 

[Jezcoe]

We're seeing it already. Read carefully:

Collapse won't look like some sudden disaster. It’s already happening, quietly, gradually. Every day, life gets a little harder. All the President's men who eat, sleep and breathe hate chasing and scaring Americans out of their own country, rent rises, wages shrink, apartments get smaller, work hours get longer. Seeing friends and family less, and caring less, too.

Lowering your standards for everything. Jobs, food, relationships. Job security barely exists anymore. People hold onto worn-out clothes, fewer get married, even fewer have kids. Most of us are just buried in our phones, numbing ourselves with distractions, disconnected from reality.

The dreams we once had for our lives feel distant now, like echoes. What’s left is debt, exhaustion, and the constant pressure to survive. And yet, every day, we’re told we’re free, safe, and prosperous.

But this is what collapse really looks like. Not fire or chaos, just the slow erosion of meaning, until we forget what it felt like to hope for something better.

Sadly I hope that we are not living through the last days of the Republic because what it means for us and the rest of the world is catatrophic.

But this decline... it was all self inflicted. It didn't have to go this way but idiotic leadership and the growing internal rot of our political system is making it inevitable.

 

[Jack2aTee]

Sadly I hope that we are not living through the last days of the Republic because what it means for us and the rest of the world is catatrophic.

But this decline... it was all self inflicted. It didn't have to go this way but idiotic leadership and the growing internal rot of our political system is making it inevitable.

I dissect daily in my mind what went wrong in this election. I read stories of farmers who employ illegals, who listened to Trump repeat over and over and over during the campaign, "I will deport ALL illegals once I am President", who then voted for Trump anyway knowing he was going to decimate the very people that keep their farms operating. It doesn't make a bit of sense to me. It's like having a bedroom to rent, running an ad, having a male applicant say, "You've got a fine looking wife. I plan to rape and kill her while you're away if you rent to me" and then renting the room to the guy anyway!!

In what universe does any of this make sense?

 

[hooligan]

Deporting a person who has been a productive member of society for 20 years because he crossed an imaginary line when he was 19 isn't going to make this country any greater.

Exactly. This sounds precisely like the sort of person the .gov should be working WITH to legalize their status here.

 

[hooligan]

"I will deport ALL illegals once I am President"

I don't think that's what Trump actually said, though. It's definitely what Dems said about Trump's true plans. I believe what Donnie promised was to "secure the border" and to get rid of all the "bad hombres" that are here illegally.

Reasonable people were suspicious that Donnie would do exactly what he's doing - but it seems a lot of people believed the hype, even against their better judgement.

 

[Jack2aTee]

I don't think that's what Trump actually said, though. It's definitely what Dems said about Trump's true plans. I believe what Donnie promised was to "secure the border" and to get rid of all the "bad hombres" that are here illegally.

Reasonable people were suspicious that Donnie would do exactly what he's doing - but it seems a lot of people believed the hype, even against their better judgement.

For Trump and especially that bald-headed pr*ck, Stephen Miller, people who came here illegally regardless of living clean and spotless lives are criminals.

 

[SkyChief]

LA couple moves to Mexico over deportation fears

These are smart people, because now they still have an opportunity to return to the U.S. legally.

Once ICE arrests and deports someone, that person cannot legally return to the U.S., or apply for asylum, or permanent residence status (Visa), or citizenship.

EVER. Smart people will self-deport while they have the chance.

 

[justoneman]

Deporting a person who has been a productive member of society for 20 years because he crossed an imaginary line when he was 19 isn't going to make this country any greater.

Yes it is. It's going to discourage others to not illegally cross this NON imaginary border.

 

[justoneman]

These are smart people, because now they still have an opportunity to return to the U.S. legally.

Once ICE arrests and deports someone, that person cannot legally return to the U.S., or apply for asylum, or permanent residence status (Visa), or citizenship.

EVER. Smart people will self-deport while they have the chance.

Exactly and a foreign spouse can easily get citizenship having been married to a US citizen. It is an issue only created by their stupidity.

 

[SkyChief]

Exactly and a foreign spouse can easily get citizenship having been married to a US citizen. It is an issue only created by their stupidity.

Yes, Linares' situation is a slam-dunk for any immigration judge. If Linares can prove that he's married to his American wife, he would immediately (probably the same day) be granted permanent resident status, and then be fast-tracked to U.S. citizenship if he so desires.

These bed-wetters and pearl-clutchers on the left shouldn't be taken seriously.

 

[hooligan]

Exactly and a foreign spouse can easily get citizenship having been married to a US citizen.

I'm good friends with a guy who married a Nepalese woman - her citizenship process was not at all "easy", even though she was married to a US citizen. It took a fair amount of money, and a LOT of time. Doesn't seem like time is on the side of non-citizens, at the moment.

 

[Jezcoe]

Yes it is. It's going to discourage others to not illegally cross this NON imaginary border.

It's completely imaginary.

It only exists as a legal fiction.

 

[justoneman]

I'm good friends with a guy who married a Nepalese woman - her citizenship process was not at all "easy", even though she was married to a US citizen. It took a fair amount of money, and a LOT of time. Doesn't seem like time is on the side of non-citizens, at the moment.

There is a lot of paperwork and effort but it is a sure thing if there is no criminal record.

 

[justoneman]

It's completely imaginary.

It only exists as a legal fiction.

Sure. Fly to Mexico City and try to walk past the machine gun armed security agents at customs and see how imaginary that border crossing is.

 

[Deuce]

An LA couple moved to Mexico to avoid deportation. They racked up $20K in debt, but are feeling more hopeful they can build a life together.

Alfredo Linares and Raegan Klein closed their business to move to Mexico, but it was worth it to avoid getting separated if Linares was deported.

www.businessinsider.com

Well, at least we're admitting to not doing things by the books.


Sure you did. What stopped you from doing so?


You've been together since last summer during Bidens administration, and your hubby has had 20 years to work toward citizenship.



So you're saying you're having a hard time trying to legally live and work in Mexico? Well I'll be....

Still trying to understand what stopped Alfredo from working toward US citizenship for 20 years. Oh, that's right. Because no need to worry about those pesky immigration laws in America. That's only to be followed in other countries.

This story doesn't read like the 'feel bad for us' story they were seeming to go for.

Have you, by any chance, ever tried to navigate our immigration system?

 

[Jezcoe]

Sure. Fly to Mexico City and try to walk past the machine gun armed security agents at customs and see how imaginary that border crossing is.

It is a human fiction.

Borders don’t exist in the natural world. They exist because we want them to exist.

Hence… They are imaginary.

If a person crosses an imaginary and spends the next twenty years working to make a life for themself that does me no harm.

There is no reason to force them back across that imaginary line.

It doesn’t make my life better and it is cruelty for cruelty’s sake.

 

[justoneman]

It is a human fiction.

Borders don’t exist in the natural world. They exist because we want them to exist.

Hence… They are imaginary.

If a person crosses an imaginary and spends the next twenty years working to make a life for themself that does me no harm.

There is no reason to force them back across that imaginary line.

It doesn’t make my life better and it is cruelty for cruelty’s sake.

Yes there are laws. You are not a serious person. Have a nice day.

 

[Jezcoe]

Yes there are laws. You are not a serious person. Have a nice day.

I am a serious person.

Hey guess what… we get to decide what laws are also because we made them up.

It is all imaginary

 

[hooligan]

There is a lot of...effort...

Which makes it, by definition, not easy. Right?


eas·y
adjective

1. achieved without great effort; presenting few difficulties.

 

[Checkerboard Strangler]

Have you, by any chance, ever tried to navigate our immigration system?

NOT A SINGLE ONE OF the people on this thread ever have, and if I am wrong, please enlighten me with some specifics, like WHEN you came here, WHEN you applied, how long it took, how much it cost and what, if any, snags you encountered. If your journey here was more than fifteen years ago the facts of your case are irrelevant in light of how things have changed but I am sure we would all like to hear about it anyway. Just know that fifteen years ago the system was a joke but it could be made to work for many.

Now we deport anyone and everyone, even the legals, it doesn't even matter.

 

[Bok Tuklo]

I know more than one person who became a citizen. The last one (Dreamer married to American citizen) cost over 20K in legal fees. It is not easy.

On the other side of the coin, two family friends emigrated; one to Australia and the other to England. The one who tried to become Australian failed. She is back in the States. The one who tried to become a British citizen succeeded. It took about ten years and I don’t know the cost.

I don’t believe America is unique in the difficulty of becoming a citizen department.

 

[justoneman]

I know more than one person who became a citizen. The last one (Dreamer married to American citizen) cost over 20K in legal fees. It is not easy.

On the other side of the coin, two family friends emigrated; one to Australia and the other to England. The one who tried to become Australian failed. She is back in the States. The one who tried to become a British citizen succeeded. It took about ten years and I don’t know the cost.

I don’t believe America is unique in the difficulty of becoming a citizen department.

You do not need a lawyer to do it.

 

[braindrain]

For Trump and especially that bald-headed pr*ck, Stephen Miller, people who came here illegally regardless of living clean and spotless lives are criminals.

You do realize that people who came here illegally are in fact criminals right?