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It takes a certain personality to be a successful President.

Grandpappy

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Examples?
George Washington
Abe Lincoln
Teddy Roosevelt
FDR
Eisenhower
JFK
Reagan

And yes, Trump.

Notice how Joe's not on that list?
 

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Examples?
George Washington
Abe Lincoln
Teddy Roosevelt
FDR
Eisenhower
JFK
Reagan

And yes, Trump.

Notice how Joe's not on that list?

He's not on my list either. But then again his term isn't even half over.

My own top presidents, not necessarily in any order:

Abraham Lincoln
George Washington
Thomas Jefferson
Teddy Roosevelt
Franklin Roosevelt
Dwight Eisenhower

I can't put JFK on the list because he wasn't there long enough. Both LBJ and Nixon - basically the same kinds of presidents but LBJ was centrist left and Nixon centrist right - would have been all-time greats were it not for their goddamn arrogance.

Best presidents the last 40 years? Again, not in any order, but:
Clinton
HW Bush
Obama

Sorry, Reagan's not on the list - way overrated, IMO.
 

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Examples?
George Washington
Abe Lincoln
Teddy Roosevelt
FDR
Eisenhower
JFK
Reagan

And yes, Trump.

Notice how Joe's not on that list?
Gee, Trump is on the list that you made and Biden isn't? I'm ****ing flabbergasted.

Laughable that you'd call him a "successful" President and even more laughable you think his personality was a plus, the man was a walking character flaw.
 

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"Successful" naturally means what "Commies" guy says. And I want you all to note that he knows how much he's lying when he calls left-lean people commies:

Well, let's see. "Communism" is the mythical state that results after government ownership of the means of production - socialism - proves so awesome that ownership reverts back to the workers. To get there, government necessarily has to seize the means of production (they will never be given over freely). That requires an authoritarian or totalitarian government. That requires evil people to be in the government.

Fun fact: the kind of person who would be in such a government would never give back the means of production or use them for genuine societal good.

In other words, it's a horribly naive impossibility. So too is the kind of Big-L Libertarianism that seems to want a virtually non-existent and largely impotent government, or anarchism as typically defined. (ie, "belief in the abolition of all government and the organization of society on a voluntary, cooperative basis without recourse to force or compulsion."). Human nature won't allow it.

Pursue communism and you get stuck at having that totalitarian government with a heavily socialist economy. Pursue the other two and someone else steps in the moment you create a power vacuum. Someone always steps into a power vacuum. Homo sapien is simply not built for these things.

tl;dr it's moot
Well said.

He agrees with that. He calls left-lean people commies. What does that say about the credibility of his statements in the OP?

:unsure:
 

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To be an 'effective' President is a very different thing from being a 'good' President. You can be effective accomplishing terrible goals, that end up doing tremendous harm. To be a good President means that what you are effective at doing, was actually a good thing to accomplish as well. 'Successful' does not mean either. I can be successful at acquiring money, without doing a damn thing to get it or deserve any credit whatsover. I can luck out and simply inherit it, from others who were effective.
 

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George Washington
Abe Lincoln
Teddy Roosevelt
FDR
Eisenhower
JFK
Reagan

And yes, Trump.

Notice how Joe's not on that list?
You forgot to identify the personality traits you're referring to. A list of people doesn't tell us anything.
 

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You forgot to identify the personality traits you're referring to. A list of people doesn't tell us anything.
Well, not the personality of your boy Trudeau, that’s for sure. ,
 

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What are the personality traits? "Personality" is the title of your thread. So, what are they?
Remember when Rudy had that shit running down his face? That is what happens to Grandpappy when he has to think. Be gentle.
 

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George Washington
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FDR
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And yes, Trump.

Notice how Joe's not on that list?
Very telling.
 

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And yes, Trump.

Notice how Joe's not on that list?
lol

Trump was hardly successful. He was a failure even after inheriting an improving economy. And when he lost....what a ****ing loser crybaby he showed himself to be.

lol

No matter how terrible Biden is, he's still better than Trump.

Sorry you Dear Leader lost, commie.
 

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TFG had the worst personality for a US President.

The OP simply loves him and creates threads like this to show his love.
 

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"Successful" naturally means what "Commies" guy says. And I want you all to note that he knows how much he's lying when he calls left-lean people commies:




He agrees with that. He calls left-lean people commies. What does that say about the credibility of his statements in the OP?

:unsure:
And you call anyone who disagrees with you a "Trumpist"

Your credibility is in the toilet.
 

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It takes a certain personality to be a successful President.​

Examples?
George Washington
Abe Lincoln
Teddy Roosevelt
FDR
Eisenhower
JFK
Reagan

And yes, Trump.

Notice how Joe's not on that list?

I see. So, what personality do all those share?

You're confused gp. "On my list" isn't a personality type.

Here. It's got pictures!

 

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George Washington
Abe Lincoln
Teddy Roosevelt
FDR
Eisenhower
JFK
Reagan

And yes, Trump.

Notice how Joe's not on that list?

Gee, what a surprise, the Trump cultist make a list in a desperate attempt to equate his hero to far better presidents and doesn’t put Biden on it. Sooooo shocking 🙄😂
 

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Well, not the personality of your boy Trudeau, that’s for sure. ,
Be careful, gp. You stepped right in it.

Yes, obviously. That's for damn sure. Graphically sure.

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