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Is Iran trying to develop a missile that could reach America?

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Is Iran trying to develop a missile that could reach America? - CSMonitor.com

Is Iran trying to develop a missile that could reach the "Great Satan"?
Why many Iranian-Americans are wary of Tehran, and vice versa
August surprise? Iran could have fuel for bomb before US election, study says.The missile under construction at an Iranian research-and-development facility, which was damaged by a mysterious explosion in November, was a long-range missile prototype with a range of 6,000 miles – enough to hit the United States, a senior Israeli official said Thursday in a speech to a defense and security forum.

At the time of the Nov. 12 explosion at a facility some 30 miles outside Tehran, Iranian officials insisted that the suspicious blast was an accident. It occurred, they said, during experimentation on a medium-range missile – one capable of reaching Israel.
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Does Iran really believe that it will ever get a single missile like this off, or not get completely destroy by even the most liberal flowerchild president we could ever elect, if one of these landed in the US? Are they really this ****ing stupid?
 
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“Only Thing We Have to Fear Is Fear Itself”
 
Iran would love to have a nuke-tipped missle that could reach the US. They may be very close to having one, too.


There's also some other possibilities for how they could slip us a nuke... in a cargo ship for instance.
 
Maybe instead of continuous escalation of tensions with people who everybody seems to think might actually try to hurt us we should step back and say, "hey...what exactly is it that you want from us?" And maybe, if the response isn't bat shiat insane....maybe we listen and stop acting like children on a playground passing notes back and forth..."timmy says you smell", "well tell timmy his ass is mine if he crosses the kickball field".

This pissing contest crap is getting old. My entire awareness has been filled with war...either ending, beginning, or being threatened.
 
i dont think iran would have a problem building a missle to hit the united states.their big problem would be to build a missle accurate and reliable enough to do what they intended it to do.russias solution to inaccurate missles during the cold war was to make them have a bigger bang,so when they missed the massive explosion would take out what they wanted,plus anything else in its path.


i doubt iran could build an accurate guiding system for a large scale missile,but would be able to build a guidance system atleast capable enough to hit within israel.


so unless russia gives open support to help iran build a long range missle,i doubt they will have it,i mean come on north korea's been working on a long range missle for a lot longer than iran and they havent gotten it quite right yet.
 
tessaesque said:
Maybe instead of continuous escalation of tensions with people who everybody seems to think might actually try to hurt us we should step back and say, "hey...what exactly is it that you want from us?" And maybe, if the response isn't bat shiat insane....maybe we listen and stop acting like children on a playground passing notes back and forth..."timmy says you smell", "well tell timmy his ass is mine if he crosses the kickball field".

This pissing contest crap is getting old. My entire awareness has been filled with war...either ending, beginning, or being threatened.
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I suggest you get used to it. I'm 46 and I don't know if there's been a single year of my life when we weren't either AT war, or being threatened with war by someone somewhere.

I grew up with the Cold War, MAD, and Civil Defense films and drills in elementary school. The prospect of nuclear annihilation certainly focuses the mind on the value of life. ;)
 
American said:
Is Iran trying to develop a missile that could reach America? - CSMonitor.com


Does Iran really believe that it will ever get a single missile like this off, or not get completely destroy by even the most liberal flowerchild president we could ever elect, if one of these landed in the US? Are they really this ****ing stupid?
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They don't have to hit the US to take us down..

All they have to do is hit Dhahran, Abqaiq, Ras Tanura and Jubail to take 10 million bpd off the market. They don't even have to close the Straits of Hormuz to create a world wide economic crisis. Look at a map.
 
who can believe in this claim.........
 
They probably are: why not?

Don't we in the US always find ways of being more accurate with our weaponry, more hands-free, more advanced - increased aerodynamics, lasar precision targeting, maximizing fuel consumption ,extending flight time.

So on, so forth.

So sure they probably are: why wouldn't they? What do we think they are: in the stoneage . . . barely cognicant and stupid or something? I get nervous when our country's leaders seem to want to bet on that.
 
American said:
Is Iran trying to develop a missile that could reach America? - CSMonitor.com


Does Iran really believe that it will ever get a single missile like this off, or not get completely destroy by even the most liberal flowerchild president we could ever elect, if one of these landed in the US? Are they really this ****ing stupid?
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Iran is a very interesting nation.

For one, they honestly believe that they should be the premiere Superpower in the world. And that the only think keeping them from being so is the one thing that the other 2 Superpowers have but they do not have. A nuclear weapon.

And they also believe that unless they build the capability to strike at the US the way the US can strike at them, they will face destruction at any time we choose to do so.

It is not logical. It is rather insane. But that is their belief.
 
Goshin said:
Iran would love to have a nuke-tipped missle that could reach the US. They may be very close to having one, too.


There's also some other possibilities for how they could slip us a nuke... in a cargo ship for instance.
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That's doesn't fly... it'd make more sense to nuke a neighboring country you know... strategically occupied by the us to contain Iran... :shrug:
 
Oozlefinch said:
Iran is a very interesting nation.

For one, they honestly believe that they should be the premiere Superpower in the world. And that the only think keeping them from being so is the one thing that the other 2 Superpowers have but they do not have. A nuclear weapon.

And they also believe that unless they build the capability to strike at the US the way the US can strike at them, they will face destruction at any time we choose to do so.

It is not logical. It is rather insane. But that is their belief.
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Did a political survey find them to be insane monomaniacal psychopaths bent on world domination?
Perhaps they merely mean to deter a conventional invasion like every other country that's ever wanted a nuke?
 
MKULTRABOY said:
Did a political survey find them to be insane monomaniacal psychopaths bent on world domination?
Perhaps they merely mean to deter a conventional invasion like every other country that's ever wanted a nuke?
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Those are statements of their President.

In Iran, the opinion of the people has no place in national policy.

If you do not believe me, feel free to ask Neda.
 
Oozlefinch said:
Those are statements of their President.

In Iran, the opinion of the people has no place in national policy.

If you do not believe me, feel free to ask Neda.
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What the president says doesn't necessarily reflect Iran's nuclear policy.
Common sense says they're going to use it like every other nation does.
 
Many in the ME (certainly the fanatics) have a view of Americans as fat, lazy, sissy-boys who've never done an honest day's work, who'd **** themselves when faced by anyone with real bravery. Plenty of individuals know otherwise, but collectively the fanatic views Americans as akin to sheep. So it's of no surprise that fanatics adopt terrorist tactics, thinking a couple of airliners here a couple bombs there and America will fall like a house of cards. For them, the idea is that fear alone could force the US to collapse into disarray.

If I am right in my estimation, then it would hardly be a stretch for Iran's fanatics to believe the mere existence of a nuke in Iran's hands would cause America to quiver with fear. Iran may think they might not even need to use a nuclear tipped ICBM. But even so, they might think a single nuclear hit could wreak irrevocable havoc that causes the demise of the nation.

Of course they're wrong and everyone knows it, but if Iran's zealots underestimate us too severely - just as Japan did in 1941 - then Iran may be unknowingly walking directly into a furnace.
 
Oozlefinch said:
Iran is a very interesting nation.

For one, they honestly believe that they should be the premiere Superpower in the world. And that the only think keeping them from being so is the one thing that the other 2 Superpowers have but they do not have. A nuclear weapon.

And they also believe that unless they build the capability to strike at the US the way the US can strike at them, they will face destruction at any time we choose to do so.

It is not logical. It is rather insane. But that is their belief.
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How on earth do you know what the Iranians believe?
 
The development of nuclear weapons does not follow a logical path. So, I don't see why Iran has to be logical either.

Below is a table from Wiki that lists nuclear weapons by country. It doesn't take a lot of nukes to make you a nuclear power. Let's look at the US and Russia, the 2 most insanely dangerous ones. The US has 1,950 ACTIVE nuclear weapons and Russia has 2,430. What would you possibly do with THOUSANDS of these things? If you set off just 1,000 of these things, it's unlikely that the planet would survive it. I mean, it's just a planet and you would almost surely disintegrate it.

So, why so many? Why have we got trillion (?) of dollars tied up in these things? Wouldn't 100 of them accomplish the same MAD results? It's the equivalent of a dick measuring contest!

All Iran needs is maybe 10 of these things and they'll be just as invulnerable as we are. You can't (successfully) attack a nuclear nation. Would they use one? Hopefully not.

I got depressed just writing this post.


United States 1,950 / 8,500[4] 1945 ("Trinity") Signatory
Russia (former Soviet Union) 2,430 / 11,000[4] 1949 ("RDS-1") Ratifier
United Kingdom 160 / 225[4] 1952 ("Hurricane") Ratifier
France 290 / 300[4] 1960 ("Gerboise Bleue") Ratifier
China 180 / 240[4] 1964 ("596") Signatory
Non-NPT nuclear powers
India n.a. / 80–100[4] 1974 ("Smiling Buddha") Non-signatory
Pakistan n.a. / 90–110[4] 1998 ("Chagai-I") Non-signatory
North Korea n.a. / <10[4] 2006 (2006 test) Non-signatory
Undeclared nuclear powers
Israel n.a. / 80–200[4][5] possibly 1979 (See Vela Incident) Signatory
 
Hey Moderator. I used the word dick assuming that it would censor automatically. I didn't mean to break the rules. If I did the wrong thing I apologize.
 
specklebang said:
What would you possibly do with THOUSANDS of these things? If you set off just 1,000 of these things, it's unlikely that the planet would survive it. I mean, it's just a planet and you would almost surely disintegrate it.

So, why so many? Why have we got trillion (?) of dollars tied up in these things? Wouldn't 100 of them accomplish the same MAD results? It's the equivalent of a dick measuring contest!

All Iran needs is maybe 10 of these things and they'll be just as invulnerable as we are. You can't (successfully) attack a nuclear nation. Would they use one? Hopefully not.
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The reason for so many is, survivability. Of course the thousands of nukes are way more than necessary. Both the US and the former USSR had to consider that a first strike on the other would destroy the other's nukes first, thus leaving that country at the mercy of the other. So the idea was to build a LOT of nukes and scatter them around everywhere. That way there's a chance some would survive to retaliate with.

It doesn't take much to make a nuclear weapon unusable. So if Iran builds nuclear-tipped missiles, they won't be invulnerable. Having such weapons will guarantee an attack more assuredly than anything else possible. 10 JDAMS from B-2s would make short work of hypothetical Iranian ICBMs, and there's nothing Iran could do about it. This attack would be followed by attacks from USA, Israel, Britain, France, Saudi Arabia, and possibly Jordan. Iran's military would become a burnt out husk and the leadership would end up in holes outside slums, eating scraps left behind by the dogs.
 
sharon said:
How on earth do you know what the Iranians believe?
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Maybe because I do something like watch the news, and do research?

Iran's Quest for Superpower Status | Foreign Affairs

Ahmadinejad: Iran is a superpower | CUMINet

Iran capable to become int'l superpower: Ahmadinejad&nbsp(WilayahNews.com)

Foreign Confidential

"Today everybody in the world has realized that only two powers have the main influence in the world and they are the US and Iran" President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, September 2010

And it does not matter what "Iranians" believe. That is the belief of the Government, and the policy they are following.
 
Just remember that Martin Crevald claims that Israel has nukes aimed at every European capital.. These mouthy a$$es are all the same.
 
Why would Iran use a missile?

That's the stupidest thing I've heard all year.

Just smuggle in the parts across the border, rebuild your nuke and deliver it via panel van.
 
Why Iran cannot have an atomic bomb and US can? Where is the “American democracy”?
 
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