I propose a "One Party" political system in the United States_

[Occam's Razor]

It's quite obvious that the Democrat Party is now under the control of the American progressive movement, whose goal is to convert the US ideo-political/economic system from Capitalist Americanism to Socialist Collectivism_

The far-left also views the US Constitution as a threat and an obstacle to its agenda which needs to be rewritten to better promote and protect their "Progressive" ideology with which they intend to replace the traditional Americanism of the Founding Fathers_

Their long range goal is to fundamentally transform the United States, its Government, its free market system and its Western Culture foundation, *into the collectivist mindset of an anthill or beehive which is totally alien to the unique nature of the American Dream_(*my words, not theirs)

To bring about their Socialist Utopia, the Democrat Party's strategy has been to incite hate for the rich, promote racial unrest and gender division and buying votes with taxpayer dollars through the creation of government handout programs for wealth redistribution_

To ensure continuation of the proven American system that created the wealthiest, safest, most powerful and opportune nation in the history of the world, the United States should adopt a One Party political system to protect what We The People have, for all future generations_

The only goal of that One Party would be the safety, prosperity and national/international interests of the United States and the preservation of freedom and the American Dream and anyone willing to support that agenda rather than desiring to replace or corrupt it would be free to run for political office_

I'm well aware of my hypocrisy by suggesting a Constitutional no-no which I have accused the far-left of in the very same post but drastic times call for drastic measures and my Constitutional tweaking would be preferable to major changes the far-left would lay on us down the road_

Please try to keep responses and discussions civil__thank you; Empi~ eace

 

[Morrigi]

Somalia has a political party. It only controls a few square blocks in the capital, but...


Wait, do the various warlords count?

 

[ChezC3]

Yeah, we have that in all but name here in Chicago, I'm gonna have to say..............................................NO...

 

[WCH]

I don't think that it will take thirty years. Looks to me that it is already becoming that way. However, I have also been noticing the GOP moving more to the center during the past seven months, so I think that they are aware of this also.

I'm not an Obamacare supporter, and even went to my republican congressman with an alternative plan to try to fight against it. But, when Obamacare goes into effect, and our economy doesn't collapse, the GOP is going to be made stupid and foolish with all their dire prediction, and that will pretty much be the end of the GOP, and especially the Tea Party component (which has already pretty much disentigrated), for a long long time.

Better start looking for a new plan now...

Labor Unions: Obamacare Will 'Shatter' Our Health Benefits, Cause 'Nightmare Scenarios' - Forbes

 

[shrubnose]

Don't you think the Democratic party would fracture? I would obviously welcome a continued leftward shift in our politics, but I doubt that any group of Americans with a political mindset will fail to find something to fight about. Perhaps our center will move to the left and our left and right wing will align with the rest of the civilized world.

I submit that one thing is an excellent bet: The USA will be a very different place in thirty years.

 

[Tucker Case]

Yeah, we have that in all but name here in Chicago, I'm gonna have to say..............................................NO...

Did you get a load of our Mayoral candidates last go round? The closest thing to a non-Democrat candidate was the actual ballot itself.

 

[d0gbreath]

Empti rhetoric.

 

[ChezC3]

Did you get a load of our Mayoral candidates last go round? The closest thing to a non-Democrat candidate was the actual ballot itself.

I remember going into the polling place to vote in a GOP primary a few years back and after being open for 6 hours, I was like the 2nd GOPer to show up... Poor judge was bored out of his mind...All the rest of them started clapping and congratulating him, it was actually kind of funny, in a very sad sort of way...

 

[imagep]

Better start looking for a new plan now...

Labor Unions: Obamacare Will 'Shatter' Our Health Benefits, Cause 'Nightmare Scenarios' - Forbes

And you are a big fan of labor unions?

Realistically, Obamacare is only going to have a significant effect (good or bad) on a few percent of our population, and the bad is roughly offset by the good. Less than 2% of businesses are significantly effected, and only something like one out of ten individuals. Most of us will notice no change in our lives. I'm not saying that it will be a good thing, for the most part, it isn't. It's just not going to be this great disaster for our economy, like so many on the far right have been claiming.

You really missed my point by posting what someone is claiming about Obamacare. My point is that when people claim disaster, and no disaster comes, they look like either idiots or liers to the general public. Some labor unions may be included in that bunch of idiots, along with the Rush Limbaughs and Shawn Hannities of the world.

 

[Tucker Case]

I remember going into the polling place to vote in a GOP primary a few years back and after being open for 6 hours, I was like the 2nd GOPer to show up... Poor judge was bored out of his mind...All the rest of them started clapping and congratulating him, it was actually kind of funny, in a very sad sort of way...

I had a similar experience in 2008, without the clapping though (I didn't bother to vote in the 2012 primary because my preferred candidate was already out of the race). Looking on the bright side, though, we never have to wait in line to vote in a primary. :lol:

 

[ChezC3]

And you are a big fan of labor unions?

Realistically, Obamacare is only going to have a significant effect (good or bad) on a few percent of our population, and the bad is roughly offset by the good. Less than 2% of businesses are significantly effected, and only something like one out of ten individuals. Most of us will notice no change in our lives. I'm not saying that it will be a good thing, for the most part, it isn't. It's just not going to be this great disaster for our economy, like so many on the far right have been claiming.

You really missed my point by posting what someone is claiming about Obamacare. My point is that when people claim disaster, and no disaster comes, they look like either idiots or liers to the general public. Some labor unions may be included in that bunch of idiots, along with the Rush Limbaughs and Shawn Hannities of the world.

My insurance went up 33% from last year, I don't know about you but I'd call that a disaster.

 

[Gawain]

I propose a "One Party" political system in the United States_

Sad thing is we already have it

 

[rocket88]

Her solution may not be the best but, at least she's trying to prevent what at this point seems inevitable.

Rather than trash her maybe some of you geniuses could come up with a better idea.

Mulitple party system. More than 2, preferably.

 

[imagep]

My insurance went up 33% from last year, I don't know about you but I'd call that a disaster.

Mine didn't, as a matter of fact, it actually dropped once I got my rebate check. You can't take one persons experience and apply it to the national situation.

 

[radcen]

I'm a huge supporter of "single payer", except that I define it a little differently than most people do. To me, single payer would be a system where the consumer pays for his own health care, not the taxpayer, and not some insurance company. If we went to my version of single payer, healthcare costs would drop like a rock, due to price competition.

Our only real healthcare crises is the price, so my version of single payer would solve the crises.

In other words, you don't support 'single payer', and are just being cute with your definition. Got it. :roll:

 

[iliveonramen]

It's quite obvious that the Democrat Party is now under the control of the American progressive movement, whose goal is to convert the US ideo-political/economic system from Capitalist Americanism to Socialist Collectivism_

The far-left also views the US Constitution as a threat and an obstacle to its agenda which needs to be rewritten to better promote and protect their "Progressive" ideology with which they intend to replace the traditional Americanism of the Founding Fathers_

Their long range goal is to fundamentally transform the United States, its Government, its free market system and its Western Culture foundation, *into the collectivist mindset of an anthill or beehive which is totally alien to the unique nature of the American Dream_(*my words, not theirs)

To bring about their Socialist Utopia, the Democrat Party's strategy has been to incite hate for the rich, promote racial unrest and gender division and buying votes with taxpayer dollars through the creation of government handout programs for wealth redistribution_

To ensure continuation of the proven American system that created the wealthiest, safest, most powerful and opportune nation in the history of the world, the United States should adopt a One Party political system to protect what We The People have, for all future generations_

The only goal of that One Party would be the safety, prosperity and national/international interests of the United States and the preservation of freedom and the American Dream and anyone willing to support that agenda rather than desiring to replace or corrupt it would be free to run for political office_

I'm well aware of my hypocrisy by suggesting a Constitutional no-no which I have accused the far-left of in the very same post but drastic times call for drastic measures and my Constitutional tweaking would be preferable to major changes the far-left would lay on us down the road_

Please try to keep responses and discussions civil__thank you; Empi~ eace

All I get from this is that you're a totalitarian unable to accept that people have different views than you're own. In short nothing new to see here.

 

[WCH]

And you are a big fan of labor unions?

Realistically, Obamacare is only going to have a significant effect (good or bad) on a few percent of our population, and the bad is roughly offset by the good. Less than 2% of businesses are significantly effected, and only something like one out of ten individuals. Most of us will notice no change in our lives. I'm not saying that it will be a good thing, for the most part, it isn't. It's just not going to be this great disaster for our economy, like so many on the far right have been claiming.

You really missed my point by posting what someone is claiming about Obamacare. My point is that when people claim disaster, and no disaster comes, they look like either idiots or liers to the general public. Some labor unions may be included in that bunch of idiots, along with the Rush Limbaughs and Shawn Hannities of the world.

Nope, not a fan of unions. I merely used that link to illustrate problems that seem to be arising for people who support Obama and his agenda.

Do you have any links to back up your assertions that only 2% of businesses will be affected.

What about the employees of those businesses? I hear 3/4 of small businesses will lay-off or cutback on the number of and benefits for said employees to get under the maximum.

And yes I completely understood what you were saying about people who 'claim' disaster' with no validity. I think you are wrong.

 

[Morrigi]

How about a zero party system without centralized government, but the fifty states in charge instead?

 

[sangha]

It's quite obvious that the Democrat Party is now under the control of the American progressive movement, whose goal is to convert the US ideo-political/economic system from Capitalist Americanism to Socialist Collectivism_

Capitalism is a effete foreign concept, imported into America by elitist Europeans collectivists

 

[Empirica]

We do have the illusion of a two-party system, yes. So, maybe, instead of making it official we should go the other way and establish a true two(or more)-party system.

The US already has several political parties but the 2 big ones write laws that make it nearly impossible for them to compete_

Actually, Germany has a multi-party system with currently 5 parties in the federal parliament. Every party that wins at least 5% of the votes gets seats.

There is a major center-right and a major center-left party, a libertarian party, a progressive-environmentalist Green party and a socialist far-left party. In some states, there are even more, like the Pirate Party in favor of internet freedom and transparency (in 4 states), a far-right neo-Nazi party (in two states) and an independent-centrist voter list (in one state).

So I think there are very different idealogical offers on the market the voter can choose from in Germany. It ranges from genuine socialists (reformed successor of the former commies in East Germany) over conservative euro-skeptics ("Alternative for Germany") and pro-market libertarians to even neo-Nazi authoritarians -- even if you believe the major center-right and center-left parties are just "different sides of the same coin".

I'd feel frustrated with the American two-party system as well. Far-left and far-right are usually not well represented and most people just vote "for the lesser evil". I'd dislike that too and prefer a system where there are more than just two choices. Maybe that's why our turnout is usually much higher than in America.

The US does indeed have a far-left party but the far-right party you allude to is a myth_

The furthest right you will find in the ranks of the Republican Party does not even exceed centrist_

Other than a few somewhat right of center candidates the Tea Party managed to get elected to office_

But the Republican establishment isn't even comfortable with being somewhat right so they weren't well received_

The US is in quite a predicament__The MSM is in bed with the far-left which is a tremendous political advantage_
plus
There's now enough government dependent losers and people wanting something for nothing, to effect elections_

And as the number of producers decline, the nonproducers multiply to which both parties must cater to compete_

Which has slowly been transforming America into a socialist wasteland of human stagnation and economic turmoil_

If the system that created the American Dream cannot be restored at the polls, I honestly fear it could get messy_

Americanism, Capitalism and Western Culture created the most wealthy, powerful, opportune, free nation on earth_

Tony Blair once said in defense of America:

"A simple way to take measure of a country's worth is by how many want in and how many want out"_

A political party is nothing more than an organized advocate of its own particular ideopolitical philosophy_

The United States has already perfected its own ideopolitical philosophy and proven its superiority beyond doubt_

I believe Tony Blair confirmed this__The United States does not need advocates of other ideopolitical philosophies_

All it needs is leaders who are willing to defend and preserve what we have already created and perfected_

I have no objections to an occasional tweak providing it doesn't effect the fundamental basis of Americanism_

Unfortunately, socialism doesn't qualify by that standard__Because:
"Socialism is like a weed that will never remain confined to one small plot at the end of a row,
It forever seeks to grow and spread until it consumes the entire garden and destroys the crop"

Judging by Germany's abundance of Socialism I would say the "socialist far-left party" is pretty much running the show there?!

 

[ChezC3]

Mine didn't, as a matter of fact, it actually dropped once I got my rebate check. You can't take one persons experience and apply it to the national situation.

I vote my interests. :shrug:

 

[imagep]

In other words, you don't support 'single payer', and are just being cute with your definition. Got it. :roll:

Maybe I should call it "first party payer".

 

[imagep]

Nope, not a fan of unions. I merely used that link to illustrate problems that seem to be arising for people who support Obama and his agenda.

Do you have any links to back up your assertions that only 2% of businesses will be affected.

No links, but I remember hearing that on Fox News, and if it's own fox, it has to be true (right?). It's based on the fact that 98% of companies that have 50 employees or more, already offer health insurance.

What about the employees of those businesses? I hear 3/4 of small businesses will lay-off or cutback on the number of and benefits for said employees to get under the maximum.

And yes I completely understood what you were saying about people who 'claim' disaster' with no validity. I think you are wrong.

The vast majority of small businesses are exempt because they employ fewer than 50 employees, so there is no way that what you are hearing is correct.

 

[imagep]

I vote my interests. :shrug:

I guess most people do. But your interests aren't likely to collapse our economy.

 

[radcen]

Maybe I should call it "first party payer".

I like "individual payer".

I guess most people do. But your interests aren't likely to collapse our economy.

I expect Obamacare will be a boondoggle, but I also believe that crashing the economy is hyperbole.