I have to wonder if many who support the gop stop to think what they are supporting could end up making america into a version of russia today?

[Hypothetical]

I have to wonder if many who support the gop stop to think what they are supporting could end up making america into a version of russia today?​

That becomes ever more apparent when we realize that Republicans do not talk about what their party is doing. Nor do they talk about the party's leader, Trump.

Take a look at the front page of this forum.

There is not one thread started by a Republican about the Republican Party or Trump.

why would we need to.... you all start them continuously! LOL

 

[Checkerboard Strangler]

It's the Left who need to stop and think about how they're making America into their image of Russia -- repressive, thought-policed, no freedom of expression and freedom to speak your mind, a state-run society, and no freedom to bear arms

I think you missed the last thirty years, vis a vis Russia.
In 1991 I was in my third year working for a Russian language TV program originating out of West Hollywood, serving the Soviet diaspora in LA County.
The Soviet Union had just fallen and a good many Russians were looking forward to the end of communism and the emergence of capitalism...I think the average Soviet gave that about "ten minutes" and
then began complaining that their lives hadn't been instantly transformed.
Russians in West Hollywood meanwhile, were sharing their experience with folks back home who wouldn't listen.

I've never advocated for repression, thought-policing, or limits on freedom of expression or some state run society and I am a gun owner.
And a lifelong Democrat.
I think you decided long ago that we're all some monolith, which means that you don't pay any attention to anything we say because you're too busy listening to your manufactured cardboard cutout
facsimile that lives in your head. That's the height of intolerance and I can prove it because I am betting your response will either be whataboutisms, straw men or accusing me of being a communist, which is what you do at least three times a day here.

I am not politically correct. I grew up on Mad Magazine, The Fabulous Furry Freak Brothers (and all the other "underground" comics) National Lampoon, George Carlin, Lenny Bruce, Bill Hicks
and muscle cars. I was in a blues band up in Minneapolis and I chased women the whole time. I'm a dirty old man today. I don't even think I can explain what "woke" is but I imagine the version of it in my heyday was just teen angst residing in people who weren't angry teens anymore and my antedote is just being kind, courteous and open to learning new things.
And I bet that represents the overwhelming majority of Democrats...and maybe even a few moderate conservatives.
I do not tolerate intolerant people but beyond that, if someone is kind and courteous to me, I try to be the same in return.

If not, they get my middle finger salute.
Is that "woke", too?

 

[Checkerboard Strangler]

Those who support the GOP have already made up their minds they want a strong Putin style leader.

All they have to do is learn a little Russian and they can have it to their heart's content...over IN Russia.

 

[eohrnberger]

Haha! Someone thinks racism is no big deal in this country. That's hilarious!

I bet you think climate change is no big deal either. And Covid is just like the common cold, right?

Nice strawman arguments. Let me know when you have anything substantive to bring to the discussion. Until then, do please skip over my posts.

 

[Lloyd Christmas]

You should spend another 6 years looking for Obama's secret birth certificate. I hear you're not gonna believe what Trump's top people are finding on it.

But recommendations from the CDC, NIH, AMA, and every single international medical and scientific organization on the entire planet during a lethal pandemic? Manufactured lies for political advantage by the Biden campaign, right?

Yeah, that makes total sense now. What would we do without sophisticated and savvy skeptics such as yourself who always see so clearly through the con?

We could add billion dollar industries like FIFA, NHL, NFL, MLB, NBA, etc etc etc had covid shut downs, lost billions not having fans in attendance. Musicians shutting down tours. Countries all over the world took measures. Yeah, the entire world was in on the hoax

 

[j brown's body]

It's the Left who need to stop and think about how they're making America into their image of Russia -- repressive, thought-policed, no freedom of expression and freedom to speak your mind, a state-run society, and no freedom to bear arms

What laws have Democrats introduced that do this? Because we see plenty of Republican state legislatures passing laws criminalizing teaching and library books, putting politicians in charge of elections, denying women the right to control their own bodies. A large number of Republican congressional leaders were willing to overturn an election and throw out tens of millions of votes.

 

[sanman]

criminalizing teaching and library book

criminalizing teaching? what are you talking about?

 

[j brown's body]

criminalizing teaching? what are you talking about?

Making it illegal to teach outside of legislated parameters.

 

[j brown's body]

Republicans have made the Supreme Court into something you would expect to see in Russia. It has an ideological position that has been unchanged for 50 years and may continue with it for another 40, but more extreme. It has become, as an institution, the antithesis of a liberal democracy. Republican leaders see the Democrats as an existential threat to this country. This is also the antithesis of a liberal democracy. They would support a corrupt demagogue rather than see even a moderate democrat win.

They are essentially controlled by one man to whom everyone is expected to show fealty.

They are very much like a Putin Party.

 

[j brown's body]

Republican congressional leaders allowed the president to attempt to extort a foreign country for political gain and incite a violent insurrection (using a "technicality"). Some of them even helped him overturn a fair election. This is something one would expect to see in Russia.

 

[sanman]

Making it illegal to teach outside of legislated parameters.

Give me an example of "teaching outside of legislated parameters" which you would legitimately still call teaching



Would that be an example of teaching you don't want criminalized?

 

[bongsaway]

It's the Left who need to stop and think about how they're making America into their image of Russia -- repressive, thought-policed, no freedom of expression and freedom to speak your mind, a state-run society, and no freedom to bear arms

Which, if any of your complaints have happened? You're on here speaking your mind, are you not? Who is repressing your thoughts, the republicans who are telling your kids what books they can and can't read by the state run government you are bitching about? Nobody is taking your arms but I have to admit I've heard it from the right every single presidential election I can remember, 'they' are coming for your guns and I started voting in '72 and I'm almost seventy. Still have your guns?

 

[bongsaway]

No you don't

If all you are going to do is give a moronic response, save the energy and do us all a favor.

 

[Sandy Shanks]

That becomes ever more apparent when we realize that Republicans do not talk about what their party is doing. Nor do they talk about the party's leader, Trump.

Take a look at the front page of this forum.

There is not one thread started by a Republican about the Republican Party or Trump.

As expected, Republicans didn't deal with the issues of this post. One tried to use humor to cover up the truth.

Republicans expect to win control of Congress in the November mid-terms.

 

[j brown's body]

Give me an example of "teaching outside of legislated parameters" which you would legitimately still call teaching



Would that be an example of teaching you don't want criminalized?

Here's an example, "one of a handful."

Texas “critical race theory” bill limiting teaching of current events signed into law

Texas is one of a handful of states that have approved legislation that prescribes how teachers discuss current events and prohibits students from receiving credit for participating in civic activities.

www.texastribune.org

 

[smallvoice]

Haha! Someone thinks racism is no big deal in this country. That's hilarious!

I bet you think climate change is no big deal either. And Covid is just like the common cold, right?

I didn't see him say anything about race, climate change nor COVID, which leads inevitably to the conclusion that you have terminal TDS. That's sad.

 

[bongsaway]

Imagine that, a government that has gained a huge increase in power is unwilling to give it up, and continues the ‘public health emergency’ justified by the COVID fear they’ve sown. Didn’t the politicians of the left declare the uninsured a health care emergency? Is this how they achieving their public policy agenda justified on the back of the waning COVID pandemic?

Biden administration extends public health emergency for Covid-19​

Health Secretary Xavier Becerra announced Friday that the government would extend the declaration for the eighth time.​

By Phil McCausland, Jan. 14, 2022​

Biden administration extends public health emergency for Covid-19

Health Secretary Xavier Becerra announced Friday that the government would extend the declaration for the eighth time.

www.nbcnews.com

and:

Declassified Documents Show Clandestine CIA Surveillance, ‘Bulk’ Data Collection​

Partially redacted documents released on Thursday night by the US intelligence community reveal a secret CIA surveillance dragnet that has collected some Americans' data under a program that did not have congressional approval or oversight. Senate Intelligence Committee members Ron Wyden (D-Oregon) and Martin Heinrich (D-New Mexico) sent a letter to the director of national intelligence and CIA director on April 13, 2021, demanding that information about the program be declassified. “Among the many details the public deserves to know are the nature of the CIA's relationship with its sources and the legal framework for the collection,” the senators wrote in their letter.​

The CIA Has Secretly Run a 'Bulk Collection' Program Affecting Americans

Plus: Vulnerability fixes, the return of EARN IT, and more of the week’s top security news.

www.wired.com

The mask mandates were all the politics of control. That they are dropping now is also all politics. That the public health emergency for Covid-19 is extended is again, the politics of control, as is the CIA spying on, i.e. bulk data collection, of Americans.

You guys are such drama victims. All if this bitching and protesting about wearing a mask. It makes me wonder if america was attacked by rockets and missiles and the government told us all to seek shelter would people stand out in the open bitching about losing their rights? You think the government actually collects all of our data? Welcome to 2022. Any person of reason would balk at wearing a mask and getting vaccinated during a pandemic, no?

 

[bongsaway]

Those talking points have been debunked time and again, only to be continually parroted from the left. It's the political narrative they have to push, facts be damned. Why? Because it is perceived by the left that it politically advantages them.

Core values: "Never let a crisis go to waste" (for political advantage)
This also implies 'If there is no crisis you can take advantage of, manufacture one which you can'.

You still have not answered the question, give an example or two please. Those talking points is a rather vague response.

 

[CLAX1911]

I honestly fear what they will do if they gain control of all three branches of government again with all of their talk about being weak and how america needs to be strong right on down to the street level cops and no more of this woke shit. Nationalism is fine when the japanese attacked pearl harbor, otherwise it looks like thousands of nazi flags celebrating nationalism and the leader.

Which america will we choose? A free america or an america ruled by a strong dictator?

It's important when starting threads to understand hyperbole.

One could say the exact same thing about Democrats. People do in fact and it's equally as worthless when they do it

 

[j brown's body]

It's important when starting threads to understand hyperbole.

One could say the exact same thing about Democrats. People do in fact and it's equally as worthless when they do it

Whataboutism Man is in the house!

 

[CLAX1911]

Whataboutism Man is in the house!

Nothing post man is here as well.

 

[eohrnberger]

You guys are such drama victims. All if this bitching and protesting about wearing a mask. It makes me wonder if america was attacked by rockets and missiles and the government told us all to seek shelter would people stand out in the open bitching about losing their rights? You think the government actually collects all of our data? Welcome to 2022. Any person of reason would balk at wearing a mask and getting vaccinated during a pandemic, no?

Zoom. The point flew right past you.

Administration determines it's time to drop the mask requirements because the COVID pandemic risk to the public has waned.
At the same time they order the extension of emergency COVID pandemic government powers.
Why is that?

Do please expend some thought energy onto this question, which was the point, please, before responding further, please.

 

[eohrnberger]

You still have not answered the question, give an example or two please. Those talking points is a rather vague response.

I refer you to post #20.

 

[j brown's body]

Zoom. The point flew right past you.

Administration determines it's time to drop the mask requirements because the COVID pandemic risk to the public has waned.
At the same time they order the extension of emergency COVID pandemic government powers.
Why is that?

Do please expend some thought energy onto this question, which was the point, please, before responding further, please.

Because they want to create a totalitarian government, right? Dictate what teachers can teach? Dictate what they can have in school libraries? Compel party membership to hold fealty to one man? Control a branch if government through generations? Throw away tens of millions of ballots? Is that what they're headed toward?

 

[bongsaway]

Funny. Don't quit your day gig.
It is equally funny that you seem to want to classify me as some sort of 'Trumpist' or 'Tumper' or something. That too would be a fail on your part.
Your doing this make me easier for you to hate me? Hate is what drives the left.

But a terminal case of TDS is never a very pretty sight.

Specific to the OP:
'this woke shit' is idiotic, and it does need to stop.

1. Abolitionism
2. Cultural Appropriation
3. Brown Complicity
4. Equity
5. Research Justice

The Five Most Moronic and Dangerous Woke Ideas of 2020

Here is my admittedly somewhat subjective list of the five most absurd and outrageous woke ideas being discussed in 2020. I owe a debt of gratitude to New Discourses for its Social Justice Encyclopedia, which allowed me to easily pick from its long litany of woke folly.

newdiscourses.com

Woke stupidity is spreading as fast as the coronavirus pandemic

After 9/11 there was much talk of the “death of irony,” along with calls for mandatory national service and widespread support for the idea that it was time to put away childish things. Then Rudy G…

nypost.com

'thousands of nazi flags celebrating nationalism and the leader' - fact of the matter is that White Supremacists, Neo-Nazis and the like are a miniscule percentage of the electorate, so much so together wouldn't add up to more than something on the order of a 10th of 1 percent and no significant threat, but the left, perceiving this push narrative to have political advantage, continues to push it. That so many hate-crimes ate initially attributed to White Supremacists, Neo-Nazis, and most end up being a hoax and committed by some left lunatic, tells you that the demand for such hate crimes outstrips the supply of such hate crimes, this is a good thing. And yet, the dishonest and inaccurate push narrative continues unabated.

Your defense of white nationalism is noted.