Skeptic Bob
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Dems cave and Trump will use this repeatedly. I think it's rather short-sighted to approach it as if it's just about 5 billion for just part of his wall.
Dems cave and Trump will use this repeatedly. I think it's rather short-sighted to approach it as if it's just about 5 billion for just part of his wall.
Dems cave and Trump will use this repeatedly. I think it's rather short-sighted to approach it as if it's just about 5 billion for just part of his wall.
Sure, but the moment he shows it is a pattern then the Dems can refuse and will have an even stronger case. They will have more credibility in refusing even MORE things Trump might want.
I like symbolism...in art.
And I don’t believe the Wall will hurt us as a nation either.
Yeah, it is a dumb waste of money IMO, but we waste more money on dumber things that people don’t freak out over.
The only real harm will be to the landowner’s property rights along the border.
Dems cave and Trump will use this repeatedly. I think it's rather short-sighted to approach it as if it's just about 5 billion for just part of his wall.
Sure, but the moment he shows it is a pattern then the Dems can refuse and will have an even stronger case. They will have more credibility in refusing even MORE things Trump might want.
If Chuck and Nancy cave, they'll get pilloried by their own nutjob Dems (pretty much their whole Party).
I’m done with the Wall as an issue. Both sides have blown this thing way out of proportion. I don’t believe it is going to curb illegal immigration to a significant amount. And I don’t believe the Wall will hurt us as a nation either.
Yeah, it is a dumb waste of money IMO, but we waste more money on dumber things that people don’t freak out over.
The only real harm will be to the landowner’s property rights along the border. The courts will handle those eminent domain cases. But again, eminent domain cases aren’t something that typically makes the whole country freak out.
So whichever side “caves” first, is going to get a kudos from me. I won’t view them as a loser or weak. I will view them as the side that finally decided to put the good of the country before winning on this stupid issue.
I’m done pissing off both sides now.
Christmas and New Years were all set until the RWN talking heads “pilloried” Trump for signing a bill with no “wall/fence/barrier/insert synonym here!”
I still cannot figure out why Trump played the martyr and stayed “all alone” in DC. He can’t be worried about appearances! :shrug:
Sure, but the moment he shows it is a pattern then the Dems can refuse and will have an even stronger case. They will have more credibility in refusing even MORE things Trump might want.
shrug...
What does this have to do with what I said about Chuck and Nancy?
Oh, wait...I forgot. When you have nothing to say, talk about Trump.
Carry on...
They had two years to pass it, the Republican Senate didn't. Why didn't they Skeptic Bob?
Christmas and New Years were all set until the RWN talking heads “pilloried” Trump for signing a bill with no “wall/fence/barrier/insert synonym here!”
I still cannot figure out why Trump played the martyr and stayed “all alone” in DC. He can’t be worried about appearances! :shrug:
During those two years, no spending bills could get passed without some Dem votes. Add to that the fact that some Reps are committed to oppose Trump just as much as the Dems are, and there's your answer.
I don’t think Trump anticipated the blow-back his Administration was going to get over this maneuver.
And they agreed to pass legislation that included money for border security without The Wall, and it was Trump...only Trump..., who refused to sign it.During those two years, no spending bills could get passed without some Dem votes. Add to that the fact that some Reps are committed to oppose Trump just as much as the Dems are, and there's your answer.
I think I read that this is the third shutdown on Trump’s watch. What constitutes a “pattern?”
During those two years, no spending bills could get passed without some Dem votes. Add to that the fact that some Reps are committed to oppose Trump just as much as the Dems are, and there's your answer.
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