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Hunter Biden's laptop acknowledged by the NY times

Athanasius68 said:
Yes-- investigations are based upon facts-- not suspicions. And there is no fact that the "Big guy" refers to Joe Biden.
It could be Donald Trump.
Or Barack Obama.
And whomever the "big guy" is, there may be nothing illegal in him receiving money from H Biden anyways.
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Exactly, there's no evidence of any crimes. Thus, no investigation was warranted.

Nice to agree the on the substance. :)
 
Tettsuo said:
So many unproven claims!

Where's the proof that Joe Biden was taking money for Hunter's position.
Where's the proof that Joe Biden got Hunter that job on the Ukrainian gas company.
Where's the proof that Joe Biden connected Hunter with anyone for the purpose of enriching himself and his son.

All of the above is completely fabricated solely for the purpose of attacking Joe Biden.
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There is plenty of other items upon which to attack Joe Biden.

As far as this one, the claim isn't that J Biden got H Biden a job for the purpose of cashing in with his son.

The claim is that H Biden was valuable to Burisma, or to China, because his father was VP, or a senator.
Its that H Biden earned his living exploiting his father's position, and that in turn J Biden (and it sounds like the rest of the Biden clan) received a cut of the action.
 
Tettsuo said:
Exactly, there's no evidence of any crimes. Thus, no investigation was warranted.

Nice to agree the on the substance. :)
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Oh-- but as the NY TIMES report there is an investigation and that it is quite warranted.
Indeed, the story reports that H Biden had to borrow money to pay the government whatever was owed.
 
MrNiceGuy said:
Corruption doesn't require him to serve in an official position. He is taking money, giving a cut to Joe Biden, for political contacts and introductions, and he was appointed to the Board of the Ukrainian gas company for political reasons, not because he was qualified in any way.
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Supposition.
 
Overitall said:
If you settle down you mind a bit you would have noted that I said that nepotism isn’t necessarily a crime. Nepotism doesn’t just involve hiring your kids to work for you. It includes using your influence to get your children jobs with other firms.
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Gotcha, so nepotism isn't a crime, but you want it investigated anyway, because if it does turn out to be nepotism, you'll just ignore it like you ignored Trump's far more blatant and corrupt nepotism?
 
Athanasius68 said:
Oh-- but as the NY TIMES report there is an investigation and that it is quite warranted.
Indeed, the story reports that H Biden had to borrow money to pay the government whatever was owed.
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Oh, well if the NYT says so it must be irrefutably true. Just like every media report, right?
 
Tettsuo said:
So many unproven claims!

Where's the proof that Joe Biden was taking money for Hunter's position.
Where's the proof that Joe Biden got Hunter that job on the Ukrainian gas company.
Where's the proof that Joe Biden connected Hunter with anyone for the purpose of enriching himself and his son.

All of the above is completely fabricated solely for the purpose of attacking Joe Biden.
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https://nypost.com/2020/10/14/email-reveals-how-hunter-biden-introduced-ukrainian-biz-man-to-dad/ and https://nypost.com/2021/09/26/proof-hunter-bidens-work-was-about-selling-influence-over-joe/

Here's one about a $2million requested payout for Hunter to help use influence to unfreeze Libyan money - https://www.businessinsider.com/new...-biden-wanted-2-million-for-libya-deal-2021-9
 
RabidAlpaca said:
Gotcha, so nepotism isn't a crime, but you want it investigated anyway, because if it does turn out to be nepotism, you'll just ignore it like you ignored Trump's far more blatant and corrupt nepotism?
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Have a good day.
 
RabidAlpaca said:
Gotcha, so nepotism isn't a crime, but you want it investigated anyway, because if it does turn out to be nepotism, you'll just ignore it like you ignored Trump's far more blatant and corrupt nepotism?
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No, what we want investigated is corruption, where a son who is not officially a government employee is selling influence.

This gaslighting bit on the part of Democrats who have jerked off over every BS "Russiagate" claim for 5 years is unbelievable. If this was a Trump son, and not Hunter, you'd want it investigated, and so would I.
 
MrNiceGuy said:
https://nypost.com/2020/10/14/email-reveals-how-hunter-biden-introduced-ukrainian-biz-man-to-dad/ and https://nypost.com/2021/09/26/proof-hunter-bidens-work-was-about-selling-influence-over-joe/

Here's one about a $2million requested payout for Hunter to help use influence to unfreeze Libyan money - https://www.businessinsider.com/new...-biden-wanted-2-million-for-libya-deal-2021-9
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Have you seen those emails, or are you relying on an unsupported news report as proof of crime or other wrongdoing?
 
snakestretcher said:
Oh, well if the NYT says so it must be irrefutably true. Just like every media report, right?
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No, this is the NYT finally admitting the laptop is legitimate, and damaging, whereas before they were carrying water for the Democrats and burying a story so deep it rivals how deep their noses are up the Democrats' asses.
 
snakestretcher said:
Have you seen those emails, or are you relying on an unsupported news report as proof?
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They're quoted in the stories, and many are pictured., so, yes, I've seen them, because I actually read the news, I don't just swallow what the DNC lackey media shoves in my mouth.
 
MrNiceGuy said:
No, this is the NYT finally admitting the laptop is legitimate, and damaging, whereas before they were carrying water for the Democrats and burying a story so deep it rivals how deep their noses are up the Democrats' asses.
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With zero supporting evidence. And knowing that makes you really cross. This is one example of why the NYT isn't a reliable source:
www.spectator.co.uk

The New York Times gets Britain wrong (again)

BREAKING: Britain is plunging into autocracy. Well, according to the New York Times at least. Steerpike has grown used to the witterings from America’s least reliable news source in recent years, as it seeks to portray the UK as a plague-riddled, rain-drenched fascistic hell-hole on the verge of...
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Overitall said:
Although nepotism isn't necessarily a crime you sure did complain about it when it came to Trump's kids. Your double standard is noted.
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That's hilarious.
Trump literally put Ivanka and Jared...who couldn't pass top secret clearance...into the White House officially working....
Biden, has done no such thing.
Barr's kid too, and Ghouliani.

Nepotism is a kind of corrupt act, especially when its a non-trivial position, and no one did corrupt better than Trump.

Really, Hunters ****ing laptop...still with all Trump did and all that's going on in the world....
 
Tettsuo said:
Who are this "They".

From what I understand, the problem was that no one cared that it was Hunter's laptop.
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They are what RW media told them was happening, even though it was not. If RW media tells them something they believe it no matter what reality is.
 
Mach said:
That's hilarious.
Trump literally put Ivanka and Jared...who couldn't pass top secret clearance...into the White House officially working....
Biden, has done no such thing.
Barr's kid too, and Ghouliani.

Nepotism is a kind of corrupt act, especially when its a non-trivial position, and no one did corrupt better than Trump.

Really, Hunters ****ing laptop...still with all Trump did and all that's going on in the world....
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And, by extension, Trump's jaw-dropping and inexcusable theft of $2 million of charity funds from the Trump 'Foundation' (Trump's personal walking-around money bank). The entire bunch of them is crooked.
 
Athanasius68 said:
Oh-- but as the NY TIMES report there is an investigation and that it is quite warranted.
Indeed, the story reports that H Biden had to borrow money to pay the government whatever was owed.
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What are the criteria you use to determine when the NYT is "fake news" and when it is a reliable source of information?
 
Stealers Wheel said:
What are the criteria you use to determine when the NYT is "fake news" and when it is a reliable source of information?
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I do not believe I have ever said the NY TIMES is 'fake news."
I certainly do think they have a partisan slant though.
 
snakestretcher said:
With zero supporting evidence. And knowing that makes you really cross. This is one example of why the NYT isn't a reliable source:
www.spectator.co.uk

The New York Times gets Britain wrong (again)

BREAKING: Britain is plunging into autocracy. Well, according to the New York Times at least. Steerpike has grown used to the witterings from America’s least reliable news source in recent years, as it seeks to portray the UK as a plague-riddled, rain-drenched fascistic hell-hole on the verge of...
www.spectator.co.uk www.spectator.co.uk
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We all know the NYT's is not a reliable source. That's the point of this whole scenario. They are only now grudgingly admitting what was obvious in 2020.
 
ALiberalModerate said:
Sure... Jesus, some of ya'll are deep in the cult.
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Well, its true that the Trump kids have long been involved in the family's real estate business.
Its kind of difficult to deny that this is true.

Its also true H Biden doesn't seem to support as a lawyer, but rather from these deals he makes.
 
snakestretcher said:
Good, so we can dismiss the alleged Biden laptop scandal as a lie. Great to know.
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Dismiss whatever you want. Democrats already dismiss the laptop scandal. It would just be refreshing if Democrats would be somewhat consistent.
 
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