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How many people must die in the name of jesus christ and allah?

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Until people start to get it. Religion is the root cause of all evil.
 
So to prove this thread wrong, all I need to do is provide a single example of evil with no connection to religion...
 
Hey, I'd settle for a single example of demonstrable good that requires religion.
 
99percenter said:
Until people start to get it. Religion is the root cause of all evil.
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I do not believe religion to be a root cause of evil, but rather some humans will engage in "evil" behavior. If we did not have religion, it's not like we wouldn't have wars. We'd likely have most of the wars we've had throughout history; they would have merely found other excuses for waging them.
 
Everyone must die

Life just kind of sucks like that.
 
Ikari said:
I do not believe religion to be a root cause of evil, but rather some humans will engage in "evil" behavior. If we did not have religion, it's not like we wouldn't have wars. We'd likely have most of the wars we've had throughout history; they would have merely found other excuses for waging them.
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The hope, I think, is that even though we'll have wars, at least we'll have more rational reasons for having them. Religion is little more than "my imaginary friend in the sky's dick is bigger than your imaginary friend in the sky's dick". It's one thing to fight over land, you can debate that and hopefully come to a rational conclusion. When it's "give me your land, my imaginary friend told me it's mine", there's no reasoning with stupidity.
 
Killing for Jesus is old school. Now, we kill for Haliburton.
 
Ikari said:
I do not believe religion to be a root cause of evil, but rather some humans will engage in "evil" behavior. If we did not have religion, it's not like we wouldn't have wars. We'd likely have most of the wars we've had throughout history; they would have merely found other excuses for waging them.
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Don't know. I really have a hard time a bunch believing a bunch of dudes would have flied planes into buildings unless they were seriously convinced a bunch of virgins will be waiting for them.
 
Religion isn't the root cause of evil. People are the root cause of evil, and religion is one of the things that keeps a sizeable portion of humans from being much worse than they already are.
 
99percenter said:
Don't know. I really have a hard time a bunch believing a bunch of dudes would have flied planes into buildings unless they were seriously convinced a bunch of virgins will be waiting for them.
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Religion in many cases provides an easy tool of manipulation. But it's by no means the only, and not all humans are rational beasts either. Maybe some dudes wouldn't have flown planes into a building without it, maybe they'd still be pissed off at 60 years of military intervention in their homelands and not give a **** anymore as well. Hard to say. But humans and governments want this and that and they'll find any reason they can by which they can justify their pursuit of this and that.
 
99percenter said:
Don't know. I really have a hard time a bunch believing a bunch of dudes would have flied planes into buildings unless they were seriously convinced a bunch of virgins will be waiting for them.
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I know it's kinda lame to play grammer Nazi, and I'd have to call this out no matter who posted it, but "flied"? Tell me you're not really that stupid.
 
X Factor said:
I know it's kinda lame to play grammer Nazi, and I'd have to call this out no matter who posted it, but "flied"? Tell me you're not really that stupid.
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English is my second language. Im sure you understood it though. Feel free to counter if you can.
 
lizzie said:
Religion isn't the root cause of evil. People are the root cause of evil, and religion is one of the things that keeps a sizeable portion of humans from being much worse than they already are.
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It doesn't keep them from being worse, it keeps them from being better.
 
Cephus said:
It doesn't keep them from being worse, it keeps them from being better.
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Frankly, I have my doubts that many of them can get any better without it. It's religion, or oppressive force at the hands of men.
 
lizzie said:
Frankly, I have my doubts that many of them can get any better without it. It's religion, or oppressive force at the hands of men.
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Religion is a form of oppression. Karl Marx said religion was the opiate of masses.
 
99percenter said:
English is my second language. Im sure you understood it though. Feel free to counter if you can.
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Ok, fair enough. As far as countering though, I cannot disagree with you that religion had a prominent role in 9/11 (a lot of people disagree with me on that point). I would point out that there is left wing terrorism as well though. In fact, I remember seeing a graph where environmental terrorism is the most common type of terrorism in the US (that's reported anyway). My point is that any belief taken to an extreme can be dangerous, it doesn't have to have anything to do with religion.
 
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lizzie said:
Frankly, I have my doubts that many of them can get any better without it. It's religion, or oppressive force at the hands of men.
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If you take away the ability to be stupid because of imaginary friends, that doesn't leave people much choice but to improve. Set high standards, refuse to accept anything less, don't take idiotic excuses.
 
X Factor said:
Ok, fair enough. As far as countering though, I cannot disagree with you that religion had a prominent role in 9/11 (a lot of people disagree with me on that point). I would point out that there is left wing terrorism as well though. In fact, I remember seeing a graph where environmental terrorism is the most common type of terrorism in the US (that's reported anyway). My point is that any belief taken to an extreme can be dangerous, it doesn't have to have anything to do with religion.
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I agree but not to the point of a 9-11 or a holocaust.
 
99percenter said:
Religion is a form of oppression. Karl Marx said religion was the opiate of masses.
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Lots of people say lots of things. Certain organized religions have become a form of control; but I do not think that innate to religion itself, rather it is due to humans.
 
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