Fenton
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time for the right wing to accept the reality that we have a black president, get over it.
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time for the right wing to accept the reality that we have a black president, get over it.
pull my finger...
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Its that the " On " switch for your brain ?
Ive had Company provided insurance for me and my family for the last 20 years and I've never seen rate increases like this before.
Last year they dropped dependents from our plan, this year I had to pay in for the first time in 20 years
insurance companies have already submitted their increases for next year. again people are facing anywhere from a 15-20+% increase in their premiums.
people in Oregon are facing almost a 40% increase again.
yet again since obamacare has been enacted people have seen multiple 30-40% increases in their premiums.
every year. so how is this affordable again?
still waiting on my 2500 reduction haven't seen it yet.
yet there is no proof or evidence of this.
before obamacare what I paid went up maybe 4 or 5%.
since obamacare came into effect what I have had to pay has gone up 20-40%.
last year we bought another company and they didn't raise it so maybe they got a better
rate with the addition of more people.
I am a little worried about what it is going to go up this year.
so far just increase after increase.
other people get tax credits I get nothing for working.
obamacare was never about expanding or making insurance cheaper.
just another huge burden on working people to have to pay for.
You paid a premium exactly once in the last 20 years? Then yes, obviously you've never seen a rate increase before.
The paternalism of the employer-based system concealed 20 years worth of rate increases from you. But guess what, they were still there.
So this is the first year you've ever had to pay anything for your health insurance coverage. This year, your premium went up 40%
So exactly how much is the 40% of $0 costing you?
Because the average American would have to be imbecilic to believe for a second that Corporations and bussinesses have been managing in silence ACA comparable rate increases for the last 20 years or to believe that Obamacare has had no impact on premiums and out of pocket expenses outside the individual market place.
Premium growth in the employer-based coverage market segment has been at 20-year lows for the past 5 years. I wouldn't expect you to realize that, seeing as someone else has been paying those premiums for you.
I do find it fascinating how the ACA seems to have only targeted Conservatives for 40% premium increases year after year.
No one else in the country seems to be experiencing this.
It's not Obamacare which is driving up costs. It's the cutting edge technology which we all demand. It's obscene profit margins allowed the drug manufacturers. Now that more people than ever have access to health care, some whether or not they can pay their share, the per capita cost has risen. For as long as as we have for profit insurance companies adding a layer of cost to the system, the cost will be higher than it has to be.
We need true universal healthcare like every other industrialized country in the world has at a per capita cost half of what we in the U.S. pay. We have some of the best technology in the world but poor access to it, and those with access are skinned alive monetarily for the privilege.
Lies and more lies.
Keep it up, its a winning strategy for the low life Political party that's responsible for this disaster
Health Insurance Companies increase premiums to offset unsustainable losses
Health Insurers Hiking Premiums To Offset Obamacare Costs | The Daily Caller
Not lies. If we are to address rising costs, those factors will have to be dealt with, Obamacare or no Obamacare.
Let us get one thing straight, the GOP, with all its faults and ridiculous nonsense, aims at Obamacare because they realized from the beginning that ACA can't work. After all the fanfare, all the promised and the hope we had, one would think that life for the poorest and most vulnerable would have improved. But not only did it not improve, many more are one illness, one paycheck, away from chaos.
So please do us all a favor and see this ACA for the failure it is, stop making HC into a partisan issue, and start looking for solutions that actually work.
People who have nothing to offer than the same old party blame game should shut up for once, and let those who are interested in solving problems step up.
I do find it fascinating how the ACA seems to have only targeted Conservatives for 40% premium increases year after year.
No one else in the country seems to be experiencing this.
But Fenton is obviously lying
dude, you just cant whine about HC being a partisan issue then regurgitate the conservative lies about Obamacare. 20 million people now have health coverage because of obamacare and it has increased the quality of care. so if you want to call Obamacare a failure, you need to explain how its a failure by taking into acount the actual facts, not the lies from the conservative media. so your response should start out "sure Obamacare has given 20 million people health care but........."
again your opinion. the company doesn't see it that way and thinks that it is of greater benefit to the employee's. you are attempting to claim you opinion as fact doesn't work very well.
Yep each company should be allowed to define what benefits it offers. why shouldn't they?
if they pay 100% of it then that is their choice. Not really as it only affects people working there. you are mistaking
healthcare premiums for pensions. don't get them confused they are not one in the same. all healthcare benefits are defined they have to be.
you still have not backed up your claim with anything substantial other than your opinion.
the employer group market is different than the single market. do you not understand this?
companies only get subsidies under certain criteria.
my company is to large to qualify for obamcare subsidies for it's employee's so I am stuck with the cost increases.
before obamacare some people had their insurance plan for years and years.
millions of people would lose their healthcare insurance from your plan. I would. then I get stuck with a plan that
no one takes or the people that I use for my healthcare take.
why would I what to medically cripple my family like that?
Vern, when are you going to get off the ACA bandwagon and realize that maybe (technically) more people have a healthcare policy, but at the same time cannot afford to use it?
Serves them right for voting against it
But Fenton is obviously lying as the plans that had large increases are in the individual market and Fenton is obviously in the group market
Serves them right for voting against it
But Fenton is obviously lying as the plans that had large increases are in the individual market and Fenton is obviously in the group market