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General 2012 Election Results Discussion Thread

Camlon said:
What prevented a landslide was Obama's awful debate performance in the first debate. Before that Romney was on a downward spiral due to his gaffles.
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I still don't buy that Obama was going to have a "landslide" even with a good first debate performance. Not for massive discussion in this thread, but it's just not realistic in our current political process to get a landslide unless we're massively redefining the word to such a point that it becomes meaningless when placing it next so '64, '72, or '84. He wasn't going to be hitting 75% electoral votes, 75% of the states, and double digit popular votes unless that first debate result was actually fully flipped, not just on par with the other two debates.

What I think you'd have seen with a better debate performance was a better popular vote by the end of this.
 
poweRob said:
Had Obama decisively won the first debate, what other state do you think he would've picked up because of that?
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Virginia. Maybe North Carolina. But it would have been a landslide as there would have been no doubt who is going to win this election.
 
As of this point, the Romney camp is NOT conceding Ohio.

They are pointing to the massive numbers of provisional ballots AND where votes have not yet been counted.

With 200,000+ votes uncounted and uncountable votes at this point, I do question how Ohio can be called.
 
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Peter Grimm said:
No, he's not. I hope the House digs its heels in and makes sure he doesn't get anything passed these next 4 years.
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What a productive attitude. Exactly why the country hasn't made the progress you think it should have made. Good thing you're not involved in politics
 
Peter Grimm said:
No, he's not. I hope the House digs its heels in and makes sure he doesn't get anything passed these next 4 years.
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That's what they did the last 4, no reason to think they wont the next four.
 
Peter Grimm said:
He's not my president. I don't support him. He can be your president, but he's not mine.

The House needs to dig in and make sure that he doesn't accomplish anything these next 4 years.
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If you're an American then he's your president whether you like it or not.
 
Peter Grimm said:
He's not my president.
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Who's your president?

Of course, if you'd prefer that our leaders take control through some other methodology, like... force? Or we could have an American Gladiators type event, but I don't think there's any way Romney could have made it past Nitro on the Atlasphere. No, I'm afraid you'll have to settle for democracy. I'm sorry, but there are plenty of jobs in China if that's more your style.
 
Peter Grimm said:
No, he's not. I hope the House digs its heels in and makes sure he doesn't get anything passed these next 4 years.
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Uh huh. And what are you hoping will happen to prevent Obama from appointing liberal permanent federal judge after liberal federal judge over and over and over again?
 
Fiddytree said:
Keep in mind that much more than that was spent on the Superbowl last year, if you consider the sheer amount of spending on behalf of Americans. ;)
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Kind of puts it in perspective. Interesting in such a lousy economy Americans can spend billions on a football game.
 
Zyphlin said:
I still don't buy that Obama was going to have a "landslide" even with a good first debate performance. Not for massive discussion in this thread, but it's just not realistic in our current political process to get a landslide unless we're massively redefining the word to such a point that it becomes meaningless when placing it next so '64, '72, or '84. He wasn't going to be hitting 75% electoral votes, 75% of the states, and double digit popular votes unless that first debate result was actually fully flipped, not just on par with the other two debates.

What I think you'd have seen with a better debate performance was a better popular vote by the end of this.
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It depends on how you define a landslide. My definition of landslide seem to be less strict than yours.
 
disneydude said:
Right-wing conservative activists had hoped that they could buy this election with "Citizen's United", the activist Supreme Court decision. The American people thought otherwise.....corporate money cannot buy our Presidency. A HUGE win for the people of America.
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Lets call BS on that. to claim this was a win for the people is as specious if it had been a Romney win. your special interest groups of unions, gays, abortion supporting women, the press, professors/teachers, and racial minorities beat businesses, the NRA, doctors, white males, and the religious right
 
upsideguy said:
...my favorite moment of the night was moments ago when the Fox pundits said (paraphrasing) ..... ' wow, I guess the polls were right...'
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But, but ... they're oversampling Democrats!!
 
Cardinal said:
Uh huh. And what are you hoping will happen to prevent Obama from appointing liberal permanent federal judge after liberal federal judge over and over and over again?
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filibuster-the dems blocked Estrada when they were a minority
 
Peter Grimm said:
He's not my president.
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I hate when people say that. I hated it when people said that about Bush, too. For 8 years, I said Bush was my President, even though I didn't vote for him.

That's America, that's the system put in place by the Founders in the Constitution. Thomas Jefferson would be turning in his grave to hear what you said.
 
I would be totally for splitting the nation in two.

Mustachio said:
Who's your president?

Of course, if you'd prefer that our leaders take control through some other methodology, like... force? Or we could have an American Gladiators type event, but I don't think there's any way Romney could have made it past Nitro on the Atlasphere. No, I'm afraid you'll have to settle for democracy. I'm sorry, but there are plenty of jobs in China if that's more your style.
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joko104 said:
As of this point, the Romney camp is NOT conceding Ohio.

They are pointing to the massive numbers of provisional ballots AND where votes have not yet been counted.
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We need recounts in Ohio and Florida.
 
Crosscheck said:
Kind of puts it in perspective. Interesting in such a lousy economy Americans can spend billions on a football game.
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Actually it does. It shows that billions spent on a Presidential election is a good thing, in comparison with spending several times more on a single football game lasting two hours, and not usually lasting through the next year in actual impact for the next Superbowl.
 
With this result, my Intrade strategy worked. For grins, I opened up an account a while back. At first, I bought Romney shares, and then a little later, when I believed the Romney shares were peaking, I shorted the crap out of them and bought Obama shares at 5.90 per share. Those Obama shares are worth 10 bucks each, as of a few minutes ago. My profit? About 1200 bucks. :))))))))))
 
I swear I think the political differences aren't much worse on some issues than whether to eat your peas with a fork or spoon. It's all stubborn ego about points that aren't overly important.
 
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