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Fighting back is the most effective way to reduce violent crime

Antiwar said:
There are lots of progressive principles that would work to PREVENT violent crime and deal with violent crime without increasing violence.

Since conservatives and extraconservatives (right-libertarians) mostly only believe in economic power and physical power, then of course they think that guns are a good social solution.
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An immediate solution, if the social solutions fail.
 
Fledermaus said:
Run, hide, defend....

Yep.

And what makes if far easier to defend?
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Oh, oh! (Raises hand)
Antiwar said:
There are lots of progressive principles that would work to PREVENT violent crime and deal with violent crime without increasing violence.

Since conservatives and extraconservatives (right-libertarians) mostly only believe in economic power and physical power, then of course they think that guns are a good social solution.
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Guns are not the only solution, but the last resort.
 
Linuxcooldude said:
Because social solutions work 100%..../s
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Republicans wanting social solutions to fail and social solutions not being perfect are very different things. If you don't acknowledge that, then ...
 
Antiwar said:
Republicans wanting social solutions to fail and social solutions not being perfect are very different things. If you don't acknowledge that, then ...
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Not seeing Republicians wanting solutions to fail. They want a VIABLE solution that's realistic.
 
Antiwar said:
There are lots of progressive principles that would work to PREVENT violent crime and deal with violent crime without increasing violence.

Since conservatives and extraconservatives (right-libertarians) mostly only believe in economic power and physical power, then of course they think that guns are a good social solution.
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That makes sense. That must be why all the progressive ran cities are violence free.
 
RF667799 said:
No. You tell me.
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Whoever wants them badly enough, for the most part. That's just one of many horrible problems with the absurdity of guns being solutions.
 
Linuxcooldude said:
Not seeing Republicians wanting solutions to fail. They want a VIABLE solution that's realistic.
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Go ahead and post some Republican social solutions.
 
Antiwar said:
Go ahead and post some Republican social solutions.
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It is a well proven fact that the way out of poverty is education. Education vouchers allowing people to go to any school are a solution. Stiff bail and keeping criminals in jail is a solution. Stop and frisk worked.
 
Although definitions of defensive gun use vary, it is generally defined as the use of a firearm to protect and defend one’s self, family, others, and/or property against crime or victimization.

Estimates of defensive gun use vary depending on the questions asked, populations studied, timeframe, and other factors related to the design of studies. The report Priorities for Research to Reduce the Threat of Firearm-Related Violenceexternal iconindicates a range of 60,000 to 2.5 million defensive gun uses each year.

Fast Facts: Firearm Violence and Injury Prevention |Violence Prevention|Injury Center|CDC

What is a firearm injury? Learn fast facts of firearm violence from the CDC Injury Center.
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Just adding a little perspective on the issue.
 
Antiwar said:
Whoever wants them badly enough, for the most part. That's just one of many horrible problems with the absurdity of guns being solutions.
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What works better as an immediate solution?
 
The OP's username is a racial and ethnic and sexual slur. I think that needs to be said first. Then I'd note fighting back works well personally but socially we need mental healthcare. That's the obvious big lacking non-elephant in the room.
 
There are two big reasons America lacks mental healthcare.

1. The stigma. Does anything more need to be said on that?
2. The view of healthcare as a luxury. That was fine until it started affecting everyone.

If America had mental healthcare, we'd see a reduction of violence and slurs as usernames.
 
We have to face the facts. Under Democratic leadership with their racial pandering, crime is up sharply in the US. Violent crime is increasing the fastest, with big cities being the hot beds of this increase.

Statistics show an average of 2.5 million burglaries occur annually. It also shows that as much as 88% of them may be committed to pay for drug habits. This indicates that the person burglarizing your home has a good chance of being high on some illegal substance or under withdraw. This also means he is more likely to act irrationally.

I saw an article just a few days ago about some scumbag decided to burglarize an elderly lady's home. While he was there, he also raped and killed her. She had made the mistake of showing him kindness and hiring him to mow her lawn.

There is only one way to defend yourself against people like this. The cops are not going to show up and save you. You cannot just hope this won't happen to you. You need to be prepared. To do otherwise shows a lack of good judgement.
 
ecofarm said:
There are two big reasons America lacks mental healthcare.

1. The stigma. Does anything more need to be said on that?
2. The view of healthcare as a luxury. That was fine until it started affecting everyone.

If America had mental healthcare, we'd see a reduction of violence and slurs as usernames.
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The real reasons are cost, legal hurdles and a lack of defining what mental illness is.
 
BahamaBob said:
The real reasons are cost, legal hurdles and a lack of defining what mental illness is.
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Funny that's not a problem in regard to fumbles, interceptions and off-sides.
 
ecofarm said:
Funny that's not a problem in regard to fumbles, interceptions and off-sides.
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Some would say an off the wall comment such as that is a sure sign of mental illness.
 
BahamaBob said:
Some would say an off the wall comment such as that is a sure sign of mental illness.
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I'm wacky for sure. My point is we don't seem to have a problem defining and addressing all sorts of minutiae. There's really no excuse for wonder and confusion about mental healthcare.
 
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