Fighting back is the most effective way to reduce violent crime

[TurtleDude]

Witnesses describe chaotic scene during California mass shooting: 'Running into each other'

Witnesses of the Sacramento shooting describe the chaotic scene.

www.foxnews.com

Oh looky here, the land of fruits, nuts and gun control failed.

oh it worked exactly as intended. reducing crime was never the real goal of such fruitcake laws. Harassing honest people on one hand, and pandering to the low wattage sheeple on the other, were the real goals and in both cases, the proponents achieved what they intended

 

[American]

Yep, killing anyone really.

Still even a trained professional got killed trying to fight back against armed criminals.

So one losing against many is your excuse to ban guns?

 

[Rich2018]

So one losing against many is your excuse to ban guns?

No, it's my reasoning not to "fight back" if you have an option to retire.

 

[TurtleDude]

No, it's my reasoning not to "fight back" if you have an option to retire.

that might be safer. but when a victim kills or severely wounds an attacker, that is better for society. I wish every violent mugger, robber and rapist was shot by his intended victims. Crime would go way way way down in a matter of months

 

[TurtleDude]

So one losing against many is your excuse to ban guns?

Rich has lots of reasons why he wants to ban guns. The most amusing entertainment is watching him argue against his own prior posts concerning the extent of his desired gun bans

 

[Grizzly Adams]

I wouldn't advise you do it though.

Nobody cares, dude.

 

[Rich2018]

Nobody cares, dude.

Why do you talk in the third person, and why do you have such a low opinion of yourself ?

 

[Rich2018]

Rich has lots of reasons why he wants to ban guns. The most amusing entertainment is watching him argue against his own prior posts concerning the extent of his desired gun bans

Lots, like simply to p!ss of honest gun owners who'll never hurt a fly, and to usher in a socialist dictatorship
/s

 

[Linuxcooldude]

No, it's my reasoning not to "fight back" if you have an option to retire.

The only option should be, let people decide for themselves. Not people like you to decide for them. It's their life, not yours.

 

[Rich2018]

that might be safer. but when a victim kills or severely wounds an attacker, that is better for society. I wish every violent mugger, robber and rapist was shot by his intended victims. Crime would go way way way down in a matter of months

And you don't do what safest for you, but act the hero instead ?

Somehow I doubt that.

 

[Rich2018]

The only option should be, let people decide for themselves. Not people like you to decide for them. It's their life, not yours.

Sure, they can act the hero if they want...just hope that it's not an incident I'm caught up in.

 

[Grizzly Adams]

Why do you talk in the third person, and why do you have such a low opinion of yourself ?

Swing and a miss.

 

[Rich2018]

Swing and a miss.

You need higher self-esteem.

 

[RF667799]

You need higher self-esteem.

Having a bad day? A little ganja can help with that.

 

[Linuxcooldude]

Sure, they can act the hero if they want...just hope that it's not an incident I'm caught up in.

It's not about being a hero, but self protection if need be.

 

[Linuxcooldude]

And you don't do what safest for you, but act the hero instead ?

Somehow I doubt that.

Agian, not your choice. It maybe the safest option to fight back, if cornered and cannot retreat.

 

[TurtleDude]

And you don't do what safest for you, but act the hero instead ?

Somehow I doubt that.

speak for yourself

 

[TurtleDude]

Agian, not your choice. It maybe the safest option to fight back, if cornered and cannot retreat.

Rich wants potential victims rendered unable to do that. His goal is to make the working conditions for violent criminals safer

 

[CLAX1911]

I wouldn't advise you do it though.

So just let criminals do whatever just get rid of crime altogether live in The Purge all the time.

That's a pretty bad take Rich even for you.

 

[CLAX1911]

Like I said
Do you think that someone can only fight back if they have a gun ?

What do you think would be a more formidable adversary someone with a weapon or someone without a weapon?

 

[Rich2018]

It's not about being a hero, but self protection if need be.

If self protection is your goal, then run followed by hide are your best bets

If faced with an armed robber, compliance is your best bet

If and only if, you are corned by an active shooter, should you attempt to fight - as it's the most dangerous option for you to take.

 

[Linuxcooldude]

If self protection is your goal, then run followed by hide are your best bets

If faced with an armed robber, compliance is your best bet

If and only if, you are corned by an active shooter, should you attempt to fight - as it's the most dangerous option for you to take.

All depends. Running and hiding while the rest of your family is exposed may not be an option.

Then agian, I'll leave that choice to each person to decide for themselves. Being a backseat victim for people who it doesn't effect, is much diffrent than being there.

 

[Rich2018]

speak for yourself

So you're different ?

 

[Rich2018]

All depends. Running and hiding while the rest of your family is exposed may not be an option.

I said:
"...it's my reasoning not to "fight back" if you have an option to retire."

Do read

If you don't have the option to retire or "run",
You should try to hide
And then and only then think about fighting back

And if faced with a demand for your wallet, watch, etc, your best best is to comply, not to fight.

Then agian, I'll leave that choice to each person to decide for themselves. Being a backseat victim for people who it doesn't effect, is much diffrent than being there.

Sure
Do what you feel you need to do, but fighting back is the least advisable option, if running/hiding/compliance are also options.

 

[Maccabee]

Fighting back when the victim of gun crime, is the surest way to get killed.

Evidence?