FBI Recommends No Charges Against Hillary Clinton for Use of Personal [W:234, 1861]

[Texmex]

Re: clinton walks

Trump aside....Hillary is a Crook many times over and a LIAR many times over....she should never have another political office in her lifetime!

Can you say Madam President? I knew you could.

 

[jimbo]

Re: clinton walks

There's actually a lot to see here. She blatantly lied in March of 2015 when she talked about the email situation from the UN. She blatantly ignored orders to secure her emails and to cease using multiple devices for email access. She was selfishly doing whatever she wanted over what she should have been doing. She was reckless and careless. All of these things would and actually should result in the final destruction of a political candidate's career. The only thing that is saving this woman is who her opponent is. I get that people don't want to vote for Trump. I don't either. What I don't get is the people cheering Clinton. That says as much about them as it does about her. The Clinton excusers are equally as ignorant as the Trump excusers. If not more so.

I don't think so. It would not matter who the opponent was. Whether it be the establishment darlings Bush or Rubio, or Trump. Hillary is thriving due the blatant disregard of her total incompetence and flaunting of the law for over 30 years.

A month ago Obama endorsed Hillary. No way that would have happened is the fix was not already in place. A few days ago BJ "accidentally" met up with Obama's hand picked Justice Department head. Yesterday Obama turns over AF 1 and the presidential podium to Hillary while another department head loudly proclaims that while there were plenty of problems, no charges should be brought.

The country has one chance to right itself. That's Trump. Not a hundred percent chance, but there is a hundred percent chance that the country will never recover from 4 years more of business as usual.

 

[Texmex]

Re: F.B.I. Recommends No Charges Against Hillary Clinton for Use of Personal Email[W:

Let's do a thought experiment.

Let's pretend a competent President.

He finds out somebody has been doing what Hillary Clinton did., and then repeatedly lied about it.

Would she be fired immediately?

(Ok it's rhetorical -of course they would)

You are reduced to fiction I see.

 

[KLATTU]

Re: F.B.I. Recommends No Charges Against Hillary Clinton for Use of Personal Email[W:

You are reduced to fiction I see.

It's a hypothetical. SO what do you think? Is what she did a fireable offense?

 

[iguanaman]

Re: F.B.I. Recommends No Charges Against Hillary Clinton for Use of Personal Email[W:

SAT Math test scores.... this test for logic which is the most valuable part of IQ's ... also the younger one is the more liberal and as they age the more conservative.. THE REASON is they have learned ............. this is the slam dunk proof worldwide

Now you got something right. Conservatives are old and getting older every election....when they aren't DEAD.

Since the average Republican is significantly older than the average Democrat, far more Republicans than Democrats have died since the 2012 elections. To make matters worse, the GOP is attracting fewer first-time voters. Unless the party is able to make inroads with new voters, or discover a fountain of youth, the GOP’s slow demographic slide will continue election to election. Actuarial tables make that part clear, but just how much of a problem for the GOP is this?

Read more: The GOP Is Dying Off. Literally. - POLITICO Magazine
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[laska]

Re: F.B.I. Recommends No Charges Against Hillary Clinton for Use of Personal Email[W:

Several things are disturbing. At least there is evidence the FBI director is independent as I don't think there is any way say the attorney general would have handled it the same way as far as being so transparent on the failings of Hilary. The attorney general likely would have been like the President and Democratic congressmen who have tried to undermine the email investigation from the beginning. Obama stated several months ago that Hilary did nothing to undermine national security when there is no way he could know that at the time and the investigation actually contradicts him on that as very possible.

What is suspicious is Lynch a few days ago stating publicly she'll go with whatever the FBI director recommends. Wonder if the Administration already knew his decision. My guess is they likely did. Everything too coordinated.

 

[tres borrachos]

Re: clinton walks

I don't think so. It would not matter who the opponent was. Whether it be the establishment darlings Bush or Rubio, or Trump. Hillary is thriving due the blatant disregard of her total incompetence and flaunting of the law for over 30 years.

A month ago Obama endorsed Hillary. No way that would have happened is the fix was not already in place. A few days ago BJ "accidentally" met up with Obama's hand picked Justice Department head. Yesterday Obama turns over AF 1 and the presidential podium to Hillary while another department head loudly proclaims that while there were plenty of problems, no charges should be brought.

The country has one chance to right itself. That's Trump. Not a hundred percent chance, but there is a hundred percent chance that the country will never recover from 4 years more of business as usual.

There will always be a large number of partisans who will support the Democrat no matter what. Just like the Republicans have their faithful. I'm talking about persuading independents to vote for someone other than Hillary. If the opponent was a good choice, which Trump is not, she would be finished.

Trump is not the country's answer to "righting" itself. You don't replace one dishonest incompetent with another. If I had to fire an employee for poor performance, I would not think I've solved anything if I replaced that employee with another poor performer. Trump will be equally as damaging as Clinton. The people who supported Trump made just as big a mistake as the people who continue to support Clinton.

 

[tres borrachos]

Re: F.B.I. Recommends No Charges Against Hillary Clinton for Use of Personal Email[W:

What is suspicious is Lynch a few days ago stating publicly she'll go with whatever the FBI director recommends. Wonder if the Administration already knew his decision. My guess is they likely did. Everything too coordinated.

Of course the administration knew. It was being leaked by the FBI for 3 days prior to the announcement yesterday by Comey.

 

[laska]

Re: F.B.I. Recommends No Charges Against Hillary Clinton for Use of Personal Email[W:

Of course the administration knew. It was being leaked by the FBI for 3 days prior to the announcement yesterday by Comey.

Was the leaks public before Lynch's speech? Can't remember. Either way, yeah, I'm sure they knew and it makes her statement just typical politician bs.

 

[Texmex]

Re: F.B.I. Recommends No Charges Against Hillary Clinton for Use of Personal Email[W:

It's a hypothetical. SO what do you think? Is what she did a fireable offense?

I think she will be elected President of the United States of America this coming November. I wholeheartedly support her candidacy. I'm with her!

 

[iguanaman]

Re: clinton walks

I don't think so. It would not matter who the opponent was. Whether it be the establishment darlings Bush or Rubio, or Trump. Hillary is thriving due the blatant disregard of her total incompetence and flaunting of the law for over 30 years.

A month ago Obama endorsed Hillary. No way that would have happened is the fix was not already in place. A few days ago BJ "accidentally" met up with Obama's hand picked Justice Department head. Yesterday Obama turns over AF 1 and the presidential podium to Hillary while another department head loudly proclaims that while there were plenty of problems, no charges should be brought.

The country has one chance to right itself. That's Trump. Not a hundred percent chance, but there is a hundred percent chance that the country will never recover from 4 years more of business as usual.

The was no"fix" or was it needed. There was never any doubt that Hillary would not be indicted. Just like there is no doubt the Trump will lose and lose badly. The FBI investigation worked out just like most impartial lawyers said it would. Indicting Hillary would have required doing the same to Colin Powell, Condi Rice, and half of the State Dept. along with her. You have been duped again by the GOP establishment and now with Trump as your nominee you have guaranteed that Hillary will win. You really can kiss the GOP good-bye too.

First, the classified material in question was not marked classified at the time it was sent and received; it was only afterward that the intelligence agencies retroactively classified it, which is critical to any legal case against Clinton. Second and most important, in order to be charged with the crime of mishandling classified information, the person has to knowingly and intentionally make the information available to someone who doesn’t have authorization to receive it, or act with such extraordinary negligence that it would inevitably fall into the wrong hands.

So for instance, David Petraeus got charged because he showed top secret documents to his mistress (and then lied to the FBI about it). But there’s no evidence that Clinton did anything even remotely similar. That’s why, when Politico’s Josh Gerstein examined prior cases similar to this one, he concluded that an indictment is highly unlikely. As Gestein writes:

The relatively few cases that drew prosecution almost always involved a deliberate intent to violate classification rules, as well as some add-on element: An FBI agent who took home highly sensitive agency records while having an affair with a Chinese agent; a Boeing engineer who brought home 2000 classified documents and whose travel to Israel raised suspicions; a National Security Agency official who removed boxes of classified documents and also lied on a job application form.

The only person with something resembling expertise in this area Gerstein could find who would say Clinton ought to be indicted was the increasingly loathsome Rudy Giuliani, whose opinion on matters like this is worth about as much a ticket to one of his inspirational speeches.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/plum-line/wp/2016/04/11/republicans-know-hillary-clinton-is-not-going-to-be-indicted-they-just-cant-say-so/

 

[Fenton]

Re: F.B.I. Recommends No Charges Against Hillary Clinton for Use of Personal Email[W:

Now you got something right. Conservatives are old and getting older every election....when they aren't DEAD.



Read more: The GOP Is Dying Off. Literally. - POLITICO Magazine
Follow us: @politico on Twitter | Politico on Facebook

Yep

The GOP is dying off....

2014
https://redvoter.wordpress.com/2012/11/14/the-gops-route-to-the-majority-in-2014/

 

[JackA]

Re: F.B.I. Recommends No Charges Against Hillary Clinton for Use of Personal Email[W:

Hillary made a bad judgment in handling her emails, resulting in approximately one in five hundred of them containing classified information. She didn't line her pockets with other peoples' money or bribe anyone or evict a veteran who was in her way. She got no personal benefit out of it. A month from now this story will be old news and the TV adds will be falling flat.

 

[jamesrage]

Re: F.B.I. Recommends No Charges Against Hillary Clinton for Use of Personal Email[W:

What you stated was:




That IS hyperbole, James.

So when you said you had not used hyperbole...you were wrong.

Why not acknowledge that you were.

It is not hyperbole to state that Clinton could get away with anything no matter how severe or despicable the offense.

 

[tres borrachos]

Re: F.B.I. Recommends No Charges Against Hillary Clinton for Use of Personal Email[W:

Was the leaks public before Lynch's speech? Can't remember. Either way, yeah, I'm sure they knew and it makes her statement just typical politician bs.

When was Lynch's speech?

 

[Anthony60]

Re: F.B.I. Recommends No Charges Against Hillary Clinton for Use of Personal Email[W:

No one is certain that any info was compromised and carelessness is not gross negligence either.

If you listen carefully to Comey, he's saying that they weren't sure, but it was almost certainly compromised. But didn't she say she never sent any classified emails through there? Comey must be wrong. All they got is a conversation about yoga.

 

[Anthony60]

Re: F.B.I. Recommends No Charges Against Hillary Clinton for Use of Personal Email[W:

The judge couldn't sentence him on something he had already been acquitted of. By law he could only impose the maximum fine for the crime he was convicted of. OJ got away with murder given that he was never convicted of and never served a penalty for killing Nicole & Ron.

Yes, technically. But he threw the book at him because he's a piece of garbage.

 

[tres borrachos]

Re: clinton walks

The was no"fix" or was it needed. There was never any doubt that Hillary would not be indicted. Just like there is no doubt the Trump will lose and lose badly. The FBI investigation worked out just like most impartial lawyers said it would. Indicting Hillary would have required doing the same to Colin Powell, Condi Rice, and half of the State Dept. along with her. You have been duped again by the GOP establishment and now with Trump as your nominee you have guaranteed that Hillary will win. You really can kiss the GOP good-bye too.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/plum-line/wp/2016/04/11/republicans-know-hillary-clinton-is-not-going-to-be-indicted-they-just-cant-say-so/

So Comey didn't indict her because he didn't want to indict Powell or Rice? and half the State Department?

You can kiss the GOP goodbye? You're predicting that they lose the majorities in the House, Senate, and Governors' mansions?

I agree with you that Trump will lose. Trump isn't the entire GOP. I think I remember 2 Democrat Presidential contenders losing in a row in the 21st century. Was that the end of the Democratic party?

 

[tres borrachos]

Re: F.B.I. Recommends No Charges Against Hillary Clinton for Use of Personal Email[W:

Yes, technically. But he threw the book at him because he's a piece of garbage.

I think he threw the book at him because he broke the law and a jury said he was guilty.

 

[Kal'Stang]

Re: F.B.I. Recommends No Charges Against Hillary Clinton for Use of Personal Email[W:

Hillary made a bad judgment in handling her emails, resulting in approximately one in five hundred of them containing classified information. She didn't line her pockets with other peoples' money or bribe anyone or evict a veteran who was in her way. She got no personal benefit out of it. A month from now this story will be old news and the TV adds will be falling flat.

You may want to rethink that statement. There is still the Clinton Foundation scandal.

 

[Anthony60]

Re: F.B.I. Recommends No Charges Against Hillary Clinton for Use of Personal Email[W:

...and your law degree is from what university?

And you ask that because...? It's pretty plainly stated, I don't think anyone is disputing that besides you. It's gross negligence, not specific intent.

 

[apdst]

Re: F.B.I. Recommends No Charges Against Hillary Clinton for Use of Personal Email[W:

Hillary made a bad judgment in handling her emails, resulting in approximately one in five hundred of them containing classified information. She didn't line her pockets with other peoples' money or bribe anyone or evict a veteran who was in her way. She got no personal benefit out of it. A month from now this story will be old news and the TV adds will be falling flat.

She still broke the law.

 

[TheGoverness]

Re: clinton walks

You're predicting that they lose the majorities in the House, Senate, and Governors' mansions?

No way is that gonna happen. That's a pipe dream.

 

[ludin]

Re: clinton walks

I appreciate the fact you don't like Hillary Clinton. Don't let your emotions cloud your judgement or your understanding of the law. The the FBI Director gave the Trump campaign plenty of material to work with. If this matters, it will be flushed out at the polls. Good luck!

Lol no it won't because liberals don't care how crooked she is they will still
Vote for her.

Just look at all the liberals in this thread saying how proud they will be to vote for a lawbreaker

 

[iguanaman]

Re: F.B.I. Recommends No Charges Against Hillary Clinton for Use of Personal Email[W:

Several things are disturbing. At least there is evidence the FBI director is independent as I don't think there is any way say the attorney general would have handled it the same way as far as being so transparent on the failings of Hilary. The attorney general likely would have been like the President and Democratic congressmen who have tried to undermine the email investigation from the beginning. Obama stated several months ago that Hilary did nothing to undermine national security when there is no way he could know that at the time and the investigation actually contradicts him on that as very possible.

So you don't think the President would know anything about national security or the actions of his SOS? There was no breech of security by Hillary and nothing of note was revealed to anyone. Most of the so-called secret emails were concerning drone strikes which are covered by the press but still remain "secret" in Govt. correspondence.