How many of those are legally recognized?
When people tell another person, that regardless of their circumstances, health or mental health, that they MUST carry the fetus to term or they are committing murder, then they are placing more value on the fetus then the are the woman.
That's not equal value.
People who are actively working to get stricter abortion laws ---- do you think they hate women?
People who are actively working to get stricter abortion laws ---- do you think they hate women?
Some may? I think they don't respect the rights of women make their own decisions as to their body and reproductive choices.
Some may? I think they don't respect the rights of women make their own decisions as to their body and reproductive choices.
When people tell another person, that regardless of their circumstances, health or mental health, that they MUST carry the fetus to term or they are committing murder, then they are placing more value on the fetus then the are the woman.
That's not equal value.
Hi Gina. :2wave: Can I ask you, can you understand why abortion bothers us? Do you feel there's any point during the pregnancy that abortion rights should be restricted?
Devaluing women is one definition of misogyny, so I would say yes.
Do women who have abortions hate babies?
The answer is NO to both questions.
But they aren't just making a decision about their body, they are ultimately making a decision about the baby's body and life. That is wrong.
The decision held that the state could not prohibit abortion in the first trimester of pregnancy; in the second trimester, states could issue regulations "that are reasonably related to maternal health"; and in the final trimester, once the fetus is viable beyond the womb, the state could regulate or even prohibit abortion except in cases "where it is necessary, in appropriate medical judgment, for the preservation of the life or health of the mother."
This is place where we always get in the discussion. Up to the point of viability, as stated in Roe v. Wade, it's the law that a woman has a right to an abortion on demand.
I can't quickly find the text of the decision but here is a quote from a discussion on it:
I agree with that decision. Viability is the red line and after that, health of the mother, or if the fetus has profound health issues that will cause death during delivery or shortly thereafter.
But they aren't just making a decision about their body, they are ultimately making a decision about the baby's body and life. That is wrong.
Let's not forget, the child is also the father's. Most pro-choice want the father's decision ignored.
I'm going with a a blimp-sized "No", floating in sky above. I don't believe either side of the abortion argument really hates women. The "pro-life" side, especially the hardliners, believe most if not all abortion is the murder of what they believe to be a human life. I disagree, but I totally understand why they do what they do. To them, it's not about hating women, but stopping what they view as a grave moral (and legal) injustice. I've got friends and family who don't' agree with me on abortion rights, but I wouldn't ever accuse them of hating women.
To desire or seek the death of an innocent person is the ultimate act of hate.
Some may? I think they don't respect the rights of women make their own decisions as to their body and reproductive choices.
Let's not forget, the child is also the father's. Most pro-choice want the father's decision ignored.
This is place where we always get in the discussion. Up to the point of viability, as stated in Roe v. Wade, it's the law that a woman has a right to an abortion on demand.
I can't quickly find the text of the decision but here is a quote from a discussion on it:
I agree with that decision. Viability is the red line and after that, health of the mother, or if the fetus has profound health issues that will cause death during delivery or shortly thereafter.
This is place where we always get in the discussion. Up to the point of viability, as stated in Roe v. Wade, it's the law that a woman has a right to an abortion on demand.
I can't quickly find the text of the decision but here is a quote from a discussion on it:
I agree with that decision. Viability is the red line and after that, health of the mother, or if the fetus has profound health issues that will cause death during delivery or shortly thereafter.
Right. But one of the traits of monotheism is how generously it deals out the death penalty. The idea that there is even a shred of humanity in any of the monotheistic cults requires hallucinogens to believe. Yet they whine on and on about babies. Who buys into their garbage ?...........................................