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While the investigation didn't look at all of Research 2000 polling conducted for us, fact is I no longer have any confidence in any of it, and neither should anyone else. I ask that all poll tracking sites remove any Research 2000 polls commissioned by us from their databases. I hereby renounce any post we've written based exclusively on Research 2000 polling.
I want to feel stupid for being defrauded, but fact is Research 2000 had a good reputation in political circles. Among its clients the last two years have been KCCI-TV in Iowa, WCAX-TV in Vermont, WISC-TV in Wisconsin, WKYT-TV in Kentucky, Lee Enterprises, the Concord Monitor, The Florida Times-Union, WSBT-TV/WISH-TV/WANE-TV in Indiana, the St. Louis Post-Dispatch, the Bergen Record, and the Reno Gazette-Journal. In fact, just last week, in an email debate about robo-pollsters, I had a senior editor at a top DC-based political publication tell me that he'd "obviously" trust Research 2000 more than any automated pollsters, such as SurveyUSA. I didn't trust Research 2000 more than I trusted SUSA (given their solid track record), but I did trust them. I got burned, and got burned bad.
It looks like Kos had no idea that there were problems with the polls they were being handed by research 2000. They agreed to someone independently going through the numbers and they found something wrong (though I can't find any details) and it's pretty obvious that they have made that public, renounced all ties to that company and explained themselves.
I also couldn't find anywhere that they were making up numbers to look good for liberals or anything of the sort. Please link where you are getting this idea from...
I just don't think it's being completely honest.Exactly. By reading the title of this thread, one can easily come to the conclusion that it was Daily KoS that fabricated the numbers themselves. Damn you OP for making me have to defend Daily KoS.
Yeah, intentional or not the title of the thread is misleading. Markos says he will sue R2K.It looks like Kos had no idea that there were problems with the polls they were being handed by research 2000. They agreed to someone independently going through the numbers and they found something wrong (though I can't find any details) and it's pretty obvious that they have made that public, renounced all ties to that company and explained themselves.
I also couldn't find anywhere that they were making up numbers to look good for liberals or anything of the sort. Please link where you are getting this idea from...
Wait, you mean the Daily Kos is biased?
Wait, you mean the Daily Kos is biased?
Yes, but funny enough, their action regarding this story actually shows that they're not. At least in this case.
That's like saying that ff a criminal owes up to a crime, they're no longer a criminal.
Exactly. By reading the title of this thread, one can easily come to the conclusion that it was Daily KoS that fabricated the numbers themselves. Damn you OP for making me have to defend Daily KoS.
You've gotta love all the "slightly liberal" posters lining up to defend poor innocent Daily Kos, one of the most virulently biased and vocal partisan hack operations on the internet. Quick someone post a new anti Fox News thread and give these dear hearts something they can sink their teeth into and recover their usual sense of indignation with!:lamo
I am saying that more than one of the posters (they and WE know who they are) to this thread have quite the record here at DP. Were this a pollster used by Fox News, or any perceived as "conservative" source, be it news, website, newspaper, radio, you name it, the condemnation and "see I told you so" would be quite thick and plentiful. And there is ample evidence of this all over the "Media Bias" section of DP.Whether the site is biased or partisan (which it obviously is and I don't think anyone here would argue that it wasn't) doesn't matter. This matter is independent of that altogether.
They purchased polling from a third party, the third party gave them made up crap and lied to them, they found out and quickly issued an apology and explanation to the public.
If you're trying to argue that Kos did something wrong then please point out exactly what it was, cause I and everyone else in this thread couldn't find it. If you were trying to just throw a jab at liberals for no apparent reason without really knowing the details or even caring about integrity and honesty then you earned yourself a sticker. Very good job :thumbs:
I am saying that more than one of the posters (they and WE know who they are) to this thread have quite the record here at DP. Were this a pollster used by Fox News, or any perceived as "conservative" source, be it news, website, newspaper, radio, you name it, the condemnation and "see I told you so" would be quite thick and plentiful. And there is ample evidence of this all over the "Media Bias" section of DP.
So close, but no cigar.
And..............
I think I just threw up a little in my mouth.:lamo
I was not speaking about redstate or something, as you say. Do try to keep up.I think if this had been redstate or something, the left would have been understanding about it, outside of a few jackasses. Any evidence otherwise, or are you just whining?
You've gotta love all the "slightly liberal" posters lining up to defend poor innocent Daily Kos, one of the most virulently biased and vocal partisan hack operations on the internet. Quick someone post a new anti Fox News thread and give these dear hearts something they can sink their teeth into and recover their usual sense of indignation with!
I was not speaking about redstate or something, as you say. Do try to keep up.
It should be amusing watching certain parties play as if my initial comment were not the case. By all means, have at it...................
My initial comment was:
At the end of the day, it was after all just a joke. A well aimed and on point one, but a joke none the less. Like Daily Kos. I can't help but think that the more denials aimed at my joke, the stronger its foundation becomes.
I am saying that more than one of the posters (they and WE know who they are) to this thread have quite the record here at DP. Were this a pollster used by Fox News, or any perceived as "conservative" source, be it news, website, newspaper, radio, you name it, the condemnation and "see I told you so" would be quite thick and plentiful. And there is ample evidence of this all over the "Media Bias" section of DP.
And indeed they are neither nuetral nor even handed. One could add honest, credible or any other number of adjectives one wishes and the same parties would still be lining up and defending them. And thank you for illustrating my point.:2razz:The difference is Daily Kos is a blog and makes no claims to be neutral or evenhanded. That's the point of a blog. I used redstate because I thought it'd be a more appropriate comparison
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