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Creepy Ass Cracker.... Racist or no? [W:329/550]

Is the phrase "Creepy Ass Cracker" Racist?

  • Yes!

    Votes: 49 62.8%
  • No!

    Votes: 14 17.9%
  • I blame Whitey!

    Votes: 8 10.3%
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The title says it all.... do you believe calling someone a "Creepy Ass Cracker" is racist???????
 

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The title says it all.... do you believe calling someone a "Creepy Ass Cracker" is racist???????
Depends, what race said it? White guy no. Any other race, yes.

Edit: Just to clairfy, if a white guy said it to another white guy then no, if any other race said it about whites, yes. If they said it about any other race other than whites...well...thats up to them.
 
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It's a racial slur but not racist. Racism requires institutional backing.
 

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It's a racial slur but not racist. Racism requires institutional backing.
No it doesn't.

Racism | Define Racism at Dictionary.com

rac·ism

/ˈreɪ
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noun 1. a belief or doctrine that inherent differences among the various human races determine cultural or individual achievement, usually involving the idea that one's own race is superior and has the right to rule others.

2. a policy, system of government, etc., based upon or fostering such a doctrine; discrimination.

3. hatred or intolerance of another race or other races.




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[h=3]rac·ism[/h]/ˈrāˌsizəm/
Noun

  1. The belief that all members of each race possess characteristics or abilities specific to that race, esp. so as to distinguish it as...
  2. Prejudice or discrimination directed against someone of a different race based on such a belief.



 

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Of course it is, but many blacks will deny it until the cows come home.
 

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Since when?
Without institutional backing, it's mere bigotry or prejudice. Without institutional backing, most of the concept regarding oppression is lost and the term is reduced to an overly-simple description for that which implies so much more than mere powerless bigotry.

It's the 'sociological definition' of racism.
 

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Without institutional backing, it's mere bigotry or prejudice. Without institutional backing, most of the concept regarding oppression is lost and the term is reduced to an overly-simple description for that which implies so much more than mere powerless bigotry.

It's the 'sociological definition'.
So in other words you are using a made up definition of racism instead of the actual definition of racism.
 

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Bah, Sociology....

"The Study of how the Crackers are always wrong"
 

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The title says it all.... do you believe calling someone a "Creepy Ass Cracker" is racist???????
I've been well taught on DP that if a black says anything it is impossible for it to be racist - therefore, since I believe you're referring to Trayvon Martin's girlie friend's testamony, the answer has to be no, not racist, just how black people talk.
 

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I'll go ask a few salteens how they feel about it. Or maybe Ritz, they seem to have thinner shells.
 

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I've been well taught on DP that if a black says anything it is impossible for it to be racist - therefore, since I believe you're referring to Trayvon Martin's girlie friend's testamony, the answer has to be no, not racist, just how black people talk.
When will they learn that talking like that won't get them very far in life?
 

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Yes, but cancelled out a bit by actually being a Creepy Ass.
 

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I wouldn't care if someone called me a cracker. There's nothing wrong with crackers. They're delicious. :mrgreen:
 

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The title says it all.... do you believe calling someone a "Creepy Ass Cracker" is racist???????
It depends. Racial slurs are not of themselves racist. "Creepy ass cracker/nigger/kike/whateverthe****" is racist if the reason they are creepy is because of the race. If it is just a cracker who is creepy, then no. Racism requires a feeling of superiority over the other race. This is why I complain that people overuse the term racism in a big way here.

May I ask what brought this question about?
 

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Racism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
See: Definitions, Sociological

Without the element of oppression, "racism" is just common bigotry or prejudice.
Eco...that's sociological theory.

Any person of one race who expresses the belief of superiority over another...that is racist. But to simply hate somebody because of their religion, skin color, culture...is bigotry.

Not all bigots are racist, but all racists are bigots.
 

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The title says it all.... do you believe calling someone a "Creepy Ass Cracker" is racist???????
That would be a yes, Seems like the only one to inject race into the Martin/Zimmerman debacle was Martin.

Still, even though it's racist, it wouldn't offend me personally. But I think blacks use it to offend. *shrug*
 

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So in other words you are using a made up definition of racism instead of the actual definition of racism.
To remove the state institutional discrimination resulting in oppression and a system of privilege is to reduce the term "racism" almost as to indulge ignorance.
 

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I wouldn't care if someone called me a cracker. There's nothing wrong with crackers. They're delicious. :mrgreen:
Of course the old "sticks and stones..." applies. I just think many will agree that we're sick of the double standard. It's a laugh that so far the evidence and testimony only shows TM used racial slurs, yet the prosecution wants to paint Z as the racist.
 
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