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[ChrisL]

They beat the kid up because he narced on them. Why do you think they beat the kid up?

That's what the boys who beat him say. I never claimed to know why they beat him.

 

[mak2]

Yea, we really dont know there are rocks.

Without getting all philosophical about it, we do

 

[ChrisL]

Without getting all philosophical about it, we do

Nope, we really don't.

 

[mak2]

You think the drug story was to cover their racism?

That's what the boys who beat him say. I never claimed to know why they beat him.

 

[ChrisL]

Yea, we really dont know there are rocks.

Okay, well GZ said he didn't kill Trayvon because he was black, so I guess we *know* it wasn't racism.

 

[Vern]

Those "silly points" were decided on by a jury. Period. There have been plenty of trials that I didn't like the outcomes of, but I still respect the process because it's the best we have, and if there isn't enough evidence to convict, then that's how it is, and crying about it isn't going to change that.

er uh chris, I wasn't talking about the trial. I was talking about yours and the ODP's silly points. Let me be clear so you cant continue to pretend not to understand

the ODP's silly point was about CNN not being outraged. Your silly point was that race was not a factor.

 

[ChrisL]

er uh chris, I wasn't talking about the trial. I was talking about yours and the ODP's silly points. Let me be clear so you cant continue to pretend not to understand

the ODP's silly point was about CNN not being outraged. Your silly point was that race was not a factor.

It was never proven that race was a factor.

 

[Rod Knox]

This can be easily settled. Vigilante murderers are usually white and drug dealing hoodlums are usually black. Now. Is everyone happy?

 

[sangha]

Okay, well GZ said he didn't kill Trayvon because he was black, so I guess we *know* it wasn't racism.

There is a difference between someone saying they did nothing wrong, and someone saying they did something wrong.

Generally speaking, people don't admit to a crime in order to avoid being called a racist.

 

[sangha]

This can be easily settled. Vigilante murderers are usually white and drug dealing hoodlums are usually black. Now. Is everyone happy?

Most drug dealers are white

 

[ChrisL]

There is a difference between someone saying they did nothing wrong, and someone saying they did something wrong.

Generally speaking, people don't admit to a crime in order to avoid being called a racist.

LOL! That might be so, but they can still lie about their motives. Not that I think that is the case here, I'm just drawing comparisons.

 

[sangha]

LOL! That might be so, but they can still lie about their motives. Not that I think that is the case here, I'm just drawing comparisons.

As I alluded to, we could get philosophical about it and ask "What do we really know for sure?" In that sense, you have a point. But to be practical about it, it is generally assumed that people are telling the truth when they admit to committing a crime, which is why a confession leads to conviction in more than 90% of all criminal cases, even if the defendant recants.

In this case, I think it's safe to say that their motivation was retribution for squealing on them.

 

[head of joaquin]

So let me see if I have this right...

Simply reporting the truth is now spin? Apparently the "spin" is reporting news without any spin at all. Interesting logic...

It's gotten to this point in teapartybizarroworld.

 

[Knowledge=power]

ah, another magic con definition. sorry pal, not agreeing with your flawed logic doesn't make me dishonest. It actually makes me intelligent. I was clear but strangely you cling to your false narrative.



exactly. He would have walked home and not been killed. Oh, I see you are leaving that part out. Instead of me presenting the facts in a clear manner so you can just ignore it and repeat your silly narrative. Tell us why a child that was minding his own business as he was walking home is dead? what made Zimmerman single him out that child with "those assholes always get away"? please be clear and specific because your version of reality needs race not to have been a factor in Trayvon's death and the subsequent inaction from police.


this proves you need professional help. But before you go, please explain how race was not a factor in Trayvon's death. Again, clear and specific.

Whether race was a factor or not is purely opinion, because only George Zimmerman knows for sure. A jury decided he was innocent of a crime however, so regardless of how much sleep you are losing at night, he's a free man.

As for the rest of your childish ad hominems, you are excused.

 

[Vern]

Whether race was a factor or not is purely opinion, because only George Zimmerman knows for sure. A jury decided he was innocent of a crime however, so regardless of how much sleep you are losing at night, he's a free man.

As for the rest of your childish ad hominems, you are excused.

thats odd. you completely avoided what I posted. well actually its not that strange. It actually pretty typical. But thank you for your concern about my health. Its fine by the way. Now back to your deflecting whining post.

the thread is actually about the delusion that CNN was "outraged" at the murder of TM and not "outraged" at the beating of a white student. It was a false premise because CNN doesnt get "outraged". It reports the news. And enough actual people were outraged that it became a news story. CNN even covered the Fox news generated faux outrage of the teaparty.

Now that we have dismissed the ODP's false premise, lets discuss your silly delusion that 'white people not having a voice in the media" . Oh and lets discuss your immense respect for the law where OJ simpson and Obamacare is concerned. Just post the same thing you would post at Stormfront

 

[blackjack50]

You can't compare this to the zimmerman case. His utterance of "these ******** punks get away......" while watch a hooded black kid walk down the street gave people viewing the case the impression that he was a racist, hated black people, and that is why he shot trayvon.

This case clearly stated it was about a kid tattling (more like narcing) out other kids and he got his ass kicked. That was the motivation behind the crime.

If we shout Racism! Or Favoritism! Or Discrimination! at every story that involves more than one race, we are never going to be able to rid ourselves of this racial divide.

Zimmerman's case had nothing to do with racism either. He had break ins in his neighborhood. Trayvon was out of place.

At any rate. The fact is that there will be another "hate crime" incident where the media blows everything up and out of proportion and incites the racism. The pointing out of the double standard on race is important to undermining the integrity of the news media...and maybe hope they will try and change...and at least get more creative with their lies.

And it seems your are justifying these punks beating the kid half to death. Keep in mind that only one person in that story was a good citizen. The one who got his ass beat.

 

[blackjack50]

IMO, we'll never know for sure what was in his mind. However, to bring it back to the point, race was a factor in the debate and in many people's mind, so there's nothing "wrong" with media outlets reporting that many people think there is a racial aspect to the case. That's not race-baiting

However, to suggest that a news station should make an issue of race from an incident where we *know* that race was not a factor is race-baiting.

Have you seen/heard the call footage? Then the NBC edited version? It makes race a factor. It isn't about reporting that people are talking about race, it is the manner in which they report the case.

To use a meme (forgive me), look at Obama and Zimmerman. One is described as the first African American president. A Black man. Zimmerman is a white man. They both have the exact same amount of white blood in them though genetically speaking. One just has lighter skin. It isn't that the media reports things like color...it is how it gets mentioned.

 

[mak2]

Yea, but it is still not about race. They beat the kid up cause he narced on them for selling drugs.

Zimmerman's case had nothing to do with racism either. He had break ins in his neighborhood. Trayvon was out of place.

At any rate. The fact is that there will be another "hate crime" incident where the media blows everything up and out of proportion and incites the racism. The pointing out of the double standard on race is important to undermining the integrity of the news media...and maybe hope they will try and change...and at least get more creative with their lies.

And it seems your are justifying these punks beating the kid half to death. Keep in mind that only one person in that story was a good citizen. The one who got his ass beat.

 

[Knowledge=power]

the thread is actually about the delusion that CNN was "outraged" at the murder of TM and not "outraged" at the beating of a white student. It was a false premise because CNN doesnt get "outraged". It reports the news. And enough actual people were outraged that it became a news story. CNN even covered the Fox news generated faux outrage of the teaparty.

It became a story because of people going on CNN and other news platforms and displaying their 'outrage.' People are killed every day by guns, TM was just martyred because he was black.

Now that we have dismissed the ODP's false premise, lets discuss your silly delusion that 'white people not having a voice in the media" . Oh and lets discuss your immense respect for the law where OJ simpson and Obamacare is concerned. Just post the same thing you would post at Stormfront

Who is the 'voice' of white people in the media? I'd like you to give me someone on par with Sharpton.

What are you trying to get at bringing up OJ and Obamacare?

OJ was guilty, and got away with it.

Obamacare is unconstitutional.

 

[Arbo]

Those that see no 'problem' with how the story was reported are the same one's that would be pointing out how all whites are racists, had it been three white boys beating a black boy. They refuse to acknowledge that truth, but that is expected.

 

[iliveonramen]

Those that see no 'problem' with how the story was reported are the same one's that would be pointing out how all whites are racists, had it been three white boys beating a black boy. They refuse to acknowledge that truth, but that is expected.

So please tell us how you think the story SHOULD be reported. Give us a title and brief synopsis so that we can at least know what the issue with this story is. As of now it seems to be an issue that the story just provided the facts in the case. What is it missing?

 

[Tucker Case]

LOL! That might be so, but they can still lie about their motives. Not that I think that is the case here, I'm just drawing comparisons.

Your argument makes no sense, though. If they wanted to lie about their motives, why would they not say that the white kid called them a racist name? That's a significantly more likely lie than "He told on me for dealing drugs", don't you think?

 

[Vern]

It became a story because of people going on CNN and other news platforms and displaying their 'outrage.' People are killed every day by guns, TM was just martyred because he was black. .

and people get beat up on the bus everyday (that’s actually the silly narrative the ODP was trying to spew). But people are not killed every day because they are black.

Who is the 'voice' of white people in the media? I'd like you to give me someone on par with Sharpton. .

I know its pointless to try to have an intelligent conversation with somebody who thinks there is no "white voice" in the media but don’t the ‘commentators’ on fox speak for you? I think the entire media speaks for white people.

What are you trying to get at bringing up OJ and Obamacare?

OJ was guilty, and got away with it.

Obamacare is unconstitutional.

I bring up that because another silly con like you tried to hide behind the skirt of “respect for the law”. You did with “A jury decided he was innocent of a crime” but I knew you run out from behind that skirt when it concerned OJ and Obamacare. And you did. I knew your ‘respect for the law’ narrative was like everything else I’ve seen from cons: something you believe in only when convenient. Like the constitution.

 

[Tucker Case]

So please tell us how you think the story SHOULD be reported.

My guess is: "Three savage Negroes viciously beat upstanding young Caucasian male while lazy Negro bus driver does nothing"

 

[iliveonramen]

My guess is: "Three savage Negroes viciously beat upstanding young Caucasian male while lazy Negro bus driver does nothing"

I actually laughed out loud. Thank you for that it's been a rough day.