Calls to Destroy Egypt’s Great Pyramids Begin

[Matt Foley]

The pyramids, it is said, were built by Jewish slave labor. Maybe Egypt can contract this out to Israel to disassemble.

((humor alert))

Nah, actually they were the ones the pharaoh borrowed from to build the pyramids.

((humor alert))

 

[Surtr]

:rofl: Holy **** - they really think they could do it? :rofl:

I'm sorry - but I just can't take it seriously. I see it now = them trying to dismantle it multi-ton massive brick by multi-ton massive brick.

They'd probably just blow them up. Little bastards love explosives over there.

 

[ChuckBerry]

Think about the mechanics of that for a minute. The pyramids have weathered thousands of years. It took decades to build them with slave labor. Dismantling them is not a trivial task, even with today's technology. They'd have to use explosives, but I'm not sure that would even work well. The structure is so squat and solid, it can't really collapse in on itself like a skyscraper.

You've put your finger on it...the masonry is not mostly empty space like, say, an office building. Deconstructing the pyramids would require, imo, a more massive project than the original building. No engineering firm that would have the expertise to make it happen would dare accept the contract, even if they could come up with the billions it would take to realize the project. And then...what do you do with all the stone? Build a road to Mecca?

 

[Oozlefinch]

A lot of people here are missing something rather obvious.

Contrary to popular belief, the Pyramids were not built by slaves, but by volunteers and highly paid artisans. Secondly, they do not even need to be "destroyed", just seriously damaged.

And we do have "missing pyramids", that have been totally removed. The Pyramid of Djedefre is a perfect example, and in antiquity was considered to be the highest reaching and most beautiful pyramid. It was mostly disassembled by the Romans in the 1st Century, and has been used as a stone quary for the next 2,000 years, until almost nothing ot it remains but the foundations.

And do not forget how the entrances were found. Dynamite.

Simply order their dissassembly as part of a holy cause, and their stones used to build Mosques throughout Egypt. You would have a hugh number of volunteers for such an effort. It may take a few hundred years, but within a decade there woudl be massive amounts of visible damage to them. And within a century they would likely be gone.

 

[Aunt Spiker]

You know - Cairo is like *right there* just 1/4 mile from the pyramids - if they were going to blow up the pyramids they'd wipe out everyone in the vicinity - and just be successful at scattering the stonework.

 

[Surtr]

You know - Cairo is like *right there* just 1/4 mile from the pyramids - if they were going to blow up the pyramids they'd wipe out everyone in the vicinity - and just be successful at scattering the stonework.

I don't believe the crazier of the fundamentalist regimes in the middle east really give two ****s about wiping anyone out.

 

[Arcana XV]

Another hoax: cleric calls on President Morsy to destroy Giza Pyramids

Everyone can relax.

For now anyway...

 

[ChuckBerry]

You know - Cairo is like *right there* just 1/4 mile from the pyramids - if they were going to blow up the pyramids they'd wipe out everyone in the vicinity - and just be successful at scattering the stonework.

Another good point. Explosives would most certainly send rock chunks scattering at fantastic speeds in unpredictable directions. Dynamite might have been a good tool when the pyramids were in the boondocks, but I would guess that the local city residents would have a problem with all that.

Yes, given enough time you could bring down the pyramids. The Romans clearly did not have interest in preserving things from antiquity, and what a pity that they did not leave the Pyramid of Djedefre intact.

Why don't they just paint them green and put a crescent and star on them, giant billboards for Islam?

 

[ChuckBerry]

Another hoax: cleric calls on President Morsy to destroy Giza Pyramids

Everyone can relax.

For now anyway...

I should be ashamed of myself for not bird dogging that.

 

[Surtr]

Another good point. Explosives would most certainly send rock chunks scattering at fantastic speeds in unpredictable directions. Dynamite might have been a good tool when the pyramids were in the boondocks, but I would guess that the local city residents would have a problem with all that.

Yes, given enough time you could bring down the pyramids. The Romans clearly did not have interest in preserving things from antiquity, and what a pity that they did not leave the Pyramid of Djedefre intact.

Why don't they just paint them green and put a crescent and star on them, giant billboards for Islam?

Two factors:

A. They're crazy

B. They're ****ing crazy.

 

[RDS]

If they were ever to destroy the pyramids what an incredible loss to the world...They have intrigued youngsters for generations right up to scientists...they are a True wonder of our world.


According to several reports in the Arabic media, prominent Muslim clerics have begun to call for the demolition of Egypt’s Great Pyramids—or, in the words of Saudi Sheikh Ali bin Said al-Rabi‘i, those “symbols of paganism,” which Egypt’s Salafi party has long planned to cover with wax. Most recently, Bahrain’s “Sheikh of Sunni Sheikhs” and President of National Unity, Abd al-Latif al-Mahmoud, called on Egypt’s new president, Muhammad Morsi, to “destroy the Pyramids and accomplish what the Sahabi Amr bin al-As could not.”


Calls to Destroy Egypt’s Great Pyramids Begin | FrontPage Magazine

Yeah, it's a holy hoax.

 

[Matt Foley]

Two factors:

A. They're crazy

B. They're ****ing crazy.

Really? Crazy huh?

The Pyramids represent one of the most crazy times in human history. Thousand of people laboring away (or slaving away) to make 1 tomb for 1 man. How many people died while constructing it? How many people were injured while constructing it? How many people went without food and shelter so 1 man could have the afterlife in one defunct religion.

In fact the pyramids represent a far more bigger crazy than you think Islam is, and by that measurement you guys should be all for it's destruction.

 

[Surtr]

Really? Crazy huh?

Calling to destroy one of the 7 wonders of the world at the expense of an entire nations economy because these big stone structures that aren't hurting anyone conflict with their religion is pretty ****ing crazy to me.

 

[Andalublue]

Speaking of real scholarship, one would certainly have to question the credibility of any article that refers to Frontpage Magazine as "Ultra conservative" while discussing an Islamist organization like the Muslim Brotherhood.

It's rather like referring to a tom cat as "ultra-dangerous" while discussing tyrannosaurs.

I think Frontpage and the MB have quite a lot in common, except that the MB doesn't rewrite the history of slavery to blame the blacks.

 

[Oozlefinch]

You know - Cairo is like *right there* just 1/4 mile from the pyramids - if they were going to blow up the pyramids they'd wipe out everyone in the vicinity - and just be successful at scattering the stonework.

That is not nessicarily the case. To begin with, do not go thinking it would be a single explosion. But lots of little ones. And it would not take very long to make them largely a simple pile of rubble. Look at how quickly a pit mine can go from flat ground to a hole hundreds of feet deep. All it takes is some skilled use of ANFO. And they would not even have to haul it away. A hundred pounds or so, boom, another hundred pounds, boom again, rinse and repeat.

And not all 4 sides face the city.

Another hoax: cleric calls on President Morsy to destroy Giza Pyramids

Everyone can relax.

For now anyway...

The problem with something like this though is that it is surely going to put the idea in the minds of some people. Just like the Buddhas of Bamiyan, if some religious group decides they are an abomination to God, they will try and do something about it.

 

[Khayembii Communique]

'When the Taliban forces in Afghanistan proceeded to destroy all "idols," especially the two gigantic Buddha statues carved into the stone at Bamiyan, we got the usual spectacle of all the "civilized" nations unanimously condemning the "barbarism" of this act. All the known actors were here: from the UNICEF expressing concern about the desecration of an important part of the heritage of humanity, up to the Islamic states representatives and clerics eager to denounce the destruction as contrary to the spirit of Islam. This kind of protest means strictly NOTHING - it just contributes to the aseptic liberal (multi)cultural consensus. Instead of hypocritically bemoaning this destruction, one should rather ask the question: where do WE stand with regard to faith? Perhaps, therein resides the truly traumatic dimension of the destruction in Afghanistan: we have here people who REALLY BELIEVE.'

Relevant Zizek quote.

 

[EagleAye]

NOOO! Don't do it! I haven't seen them with mine own eyes yet. They are a treasure of Humanity.

 

[Gardener]

I think Frontpage and the MB have quite a lot in common, except that the MB doesn't rewrite the history of slavery to blame the blacks.

and Front page doesn't envision women as chattel to be killed at male whim.

The point here is that it is naive to the point of insidious to call front page "ultra conservative" when the discussion is about the M.B. The writer obviously has an agenda, and is attempting to frame the issue in such a way as to obfuscate the true nature of the M.B.

 

[Higgins86]

They wouldn't get any work done with all the kids that surround you like flies trying to sell you ****...horrible place

 

[Andalublue]

and Front page doesn't envision women as chattel to be killed at male whim.

The point here is that it is naive to the point of insidious to call front page "ultra conservative" when the discussion is about the M.B. The writer obviously has an agenda, and is attempting to frame the issue in such a way as to obfuscate the true nature of the M.B.

Well, the obfuscation here seems to be coming from those trying to link the MB with these nutty individuals calling for the destruction of the pyramids. Where is there evidence that the MB are even discussing the matter? This seems like accusing the Vatican of attacking US military personnel because of the declarations of Fred Phelps.

 

[Sherman123]

It isn't going to happen, there is no need to worry whatsoever.

 

[Dezaad]

If they were ever to destroy the pyramids what an incredible loss to the world...They have intrigued youngsters for generations right up to scientists...they are a True wonder of our world.


According to several reports in the Arabic media, prominent Muslim clerics have begun to call for the demolition of Egypt’s Great Pyramids—or, in the words of Saudi Sheikh Ali bin Said al-Rabi‘i, those “symbols of paganism,” which Egypt’s Salafi party has long planned to cover with wax. Most recently, Bahrain’s “Sheikh of Sunni Sheikhs” and President of National Unity, Abd al-Latif al-Mahmoud, called on Egypt’s new president, Muhammad Morsi, to “destroy the Pyramids and accomplish what the Sahabi Amr bin al-As could not.”


Calls to Destroy Egypt’s Great Pyramids Begin | FrontPage Magazine

Yes, the notion of believing things without evidence sometimes has dire consequences. And once people are convinced they don't need evidence for what they believe, it is so difficult to change the course of their path. Such a travesty to have lost what we have already.

 

[EagleAye]

It isn't going to happen, there is no need to worry whatsoever.

I think you're right, but people suggesting destroying the Pyramids need to be lined up and shot.

 

[Misterveritis]

Think about the mechanics of that for a minute. The pyramids have weathered thousands of years. It took decades to build them with slave labor. Dismantling them is not a trivial task, even with today's technology. They'd have to use explosives, but I'm not sure that would even work well. The structure is so squat and solid, it can't really collapse in on itself like a skyscraper.

They were not built with slave labor. And there used to be some towering statues in Afghanistan that the Taliban demolished. Afghan Taliban Begin Destruction of Ancient Buddha Statues

The Islamofascists are always dangerous to the past, the present and to our future.

 

[Surtr]

They were not built with slave labor.

A lot of people say this, but I have serious doubts about that. A society that made heavy use of slavery is suddenly not going to utilize slave labor in the least in the construction of such gigantic structures made entirely of stone, from quarries where the stones would have to be cut and moved to location. Really? No slaves were involved in such back-breaking labor? I have to call bull****.