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Breaking: Israel launches 'preemptive strike' against Iran, declares state of emergency

How about you learn some history?

Hundreds of thousands of Jews were ethnically cleansed from Arab countries following the Arab nations' defeat in their attempt to push the Jews in Israel to the sea.
You support ethnic cleansing by lying about Jews not being ethnically cleansed and saying that they left because Israel was created (utterly false).
Which makes your own fake accusations of ethnic cleansing (and genocide) hysterically ironic.

The comment the other poster posted here with the infographic was actually very serious and accurate. You just called it lies for no reason exposing your own agenda to be revolving around misinformation.
What kind of history is this?

 
How about you learn some history?

Hundreds of thousands of Jews were ethnically cleansed from Arab countries following the Arab nations' defeat in their attempt to push the Jews in Israel to the sea.
You support ethnic cleansing by lying about Jews not being ethnically cleansed and saying that they left because Israel was created (utterly false).
Which makes your own fake accusations of ethnic cleansing (and genocide) hysterically ironic.

The comment the other poster posted here with the infographic was actually very serious and accurate. You just called it lies for no reason exposing your own agenda to be revolving around misinformation.
Antisemites are always VERY selective when trying to justify their Judenfrei positions.
 
Crazy times when she makes more sense on thia subject than 95% of our politicians and media. But thats most likely that 95% are bought and paid for by Isreal.



Anyone slobbering for the U.S. to become fully involved in the Israel/Iran war is not America First/MAGA.

Wishing for murder of innocent people is disgusting.

We are sick and tired of foreign wars. All of them.

And this one will quickly engulf the Middle East, BRICS, and NATO as countries are required to take a side.

Real America First/MAGA wants world peace for all people and doesn’t want our military killed and forever injured physically and mentally.

We love our U.S. military and love them helping to secure our borders and our cities for the defense of OUR PEOPLE AND OUR COUNTRY.

They are our friends, spouses, cousins, nieces, nephews, sisters, brothers, sons, and daughters.

We have spent TRILLIONS in the Middle East and we have dealt with the aftermath of death, blown apart bodies, never ending suicides, and disabling PTSD.

All because they told us propaganda as to why we must sacrifice our own to defend some other country’s borders and some other country’s borders.

I don’t want to see Israel bombed or Iran bombed or Gaza bombed.

I don’t want to see Ukraine bombed or Russia bombed.

And we do NOT want to be involved or required to pay for ANY OF IT!!!

We are $36+ TRILLION in debt and have mountains of our own problems.

We have giant planks sticking out of our own eyes while we complain about splinters in other’s eyes.

Every country involved and all over the world can be happy, successful, and rich if we all work together and seek peace and prosperity.

Taking this position is NOT antisemitic.

It’s rational, sane, and loving toward all people.

Taking this position of peace and prosperity for all is not isolationism, it leads to GREAT trade deals and GREAT economies that help ALL PEOPLE.

It’s what many Americans voted for in 2024.

America First!
America First!!
America First!!!

That is how we Make America Great Again!!!!!
 
Do you think the Iranian regime would use them? If so, to what end given the chain reaction of events that would follow? I ask because I'm interested in discussing this view that the Iranian regime is interested in using them offensively, which would spell the end of their nation, and many of their actions have not indicated they are acting in such a manner.
Of course they would. They have been talking about it for YEARS.

Rafsangani, himself, laid out the rational 20 years ago. He said that they could destroy the Jews, but the Jewish response would cause "damages only" to the Ummah.

You are making the mistake of thinking as a Westerner with western assumptions. The mad Mullahs do not think like we do regarding nations. Their nation is all of Islam, and the directives of the murderous warlord who invented it.
 
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Of course they would. They have been talking about it for YEARS.

Rafsangani, himself, laid out the rational 20 years ago. He said that they could destroy the Jews, but the Jewish response would cause "damaged only" to the Ummah.

You are making the mistake of thinking as a Westerner with western assumptions. The mad Mullahs do not think like we do regarding nations. Their nation is all of Islam, and the directives of the murderous warlord who invented it.
There's rhetoric and there's action. What actions have the Iranians demonstrated lead to your conclusion they are willing to sacrifice their nation by launching a nuclear attack? There's no question they've been a bad actor in the region, but that they've been some irrational actor with no concern for its self preservation doesn't seem accurate at all. You're basing your comments on a biased view that assumes all of Islam is hell bent on the destruction of the infidel, which also does not ring true in the broader world.
 
sorry, no clue my friend.



what does that mean in simple terms?




some people are political, others not so much. so they learned to survive for a long time, sorry don't know much about these types either.

maybe you can expound on this for the rest of us.



Contu, i may view yur video later; because i have no clue what you are talking about.

however, are you a Christian ? (i am a christian and this matters to me, God wants us to love his chosen and all peoples of this world regardless)

if so, are you aware that God has given the Land of Israel to the Jewish people?

if you are a christian, do you believe the Bible when it claims that the Jews are God's chosen people?

if not, then why not?

what do you believe regarding Bible Prophecy and Israel being the focal point of Bible Prophecy in the Last Days?

do you believe we are in the Last Days or End Times


thanks in advance; please answer Constructively as many questions above which will help me evaluate what you seem to espouse here quite often.


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Assuming , for argument's sake, that you are REALLY a christian and have read the bible then In John 8:44, Jesus clarifies that the devil is the father of lies.
Hence it is up to you as a Christian and an American to discern the truth.

there are numerous Jewish Sects - the Mizrahis, the Naturei Karte , Hassidic , etc they are ALL JEWS AND ARE IN AGREEMENT that the present rulers of Israel - ASS-k-NAZI ZIONISTS are a criminal FRAUD
 
People are not asking the right questions. What will the body count and devastation be now that Israel has struck. What would it be when Mullahs have their nukes?
No, ask me instead "how long it will take me to get tired of seeing Iran get punched in the face?"

I'm drinking coffee right now. I am unlikely to get tired.
 
I mean, "civilians" firing rockets at Jewish children isn't "provication."



When the combined forces of the Muslim Supremacists attack in 1967, they lost. Losing wars almost always includes losing land. Then the Muslim Supremacists attacked again in 1973 - the forces of Muhammad once again lost.



You keep repeating this lie - do you think if you lie often enough it will become true?



Israel is a basically secular nation - unlike Iran and the other nations promoting Islamic Supremacy.
Israel never hesitated to drop bombs on Palestinian children or outright gun them down, and was doing so long before October 7th. Therefore, once again, by your own “logic”, the “Jewish state” has no room to complain.

Uh....it was Israel who attacked its neighbors in 1967. Then they were offered peace when Sadat first came to power and refused, because they wanted to continue colonizing the Sinai....and then were very nearly outright crushed when the Yom Kippur War came around as a result.

So what land should America be forced to cede to Vietnam and Afghanistan? The US lost both wars in spectacular fashion, after all.

Blind denial can’t change Israel’s attacks on Palestinian civilians.

The “Jewish state”’s belief it’s religion means it doesn’t have to follow international law says otherwise.
 
Nice "whataboutism" - still I see no calls by the cheerleaders of Iran for the invading Muslims to leave Constantinople.

The Muslim Supremacists and their fellow travelers are utter hypocrites.
Without the Crusaders, “Constantinople” likely never would have fallen to begin with. No amount of denial can change that reality ;)
 
People are not asking the right questions. What will the body count and devastation be now that Israel has struck. What would it be when Mullahs have their nukes?
Why hasn’t Iran used its WMDs on Israel yet, if your claims were true?

They’ve got plenty of non-nuclear examples of such, after all.
 
In order to have peace we have to break this or we’re just not going to have a future at all. You can talk about chimps all you want but in reality human nature aint all that simple.

Israel is not really a country that fosters peace.

The world order we have built is not built to foster peace, it is built to continue conflict because it is a zero sum game.
Israel can not foster peace by itself and as long as the status quo remains in the Muslim Arab Middle Eastthat there can be no Jewish state you are right. The very Jewish identity of Israel in the ME does not foster peace but in fact serves as the only thing Muslim Arab states agree on and that is Israel should not be a Jewish state,

When we Jews were defined by Christian and Muslim states as infidels and Christ killers we fostered hatred for outselves simly existing. When we went the next step and redefined our collective identity to also be a national one it fostered the current conflict in the Middle East and a shift for those who still loath Jews to npow add to the reasons.

We Jews can foster respect, hate, distrust, envy. Sometimes its deliberate, sometimes it is unintentional, and sometimes it has nothing to do with us at all and we therefore should not apologize for or take responsibility for.
 
Israel can not foster peace by itself and as long as the status quo remains in the Muslim Arab Middle Eastthat there can be no Jewish state you are right. The very Jewish identity of Israel in the ME does not foster peace but in fact serves as the only thing Muslim Arab states agree on and that is Israel should not be a Jewish state,

When we Jews were defined by Christian and Muslim states as infidels and Christ killers we fostered hatred for outselves simly existing. When we went the next step and redefined our collective identity to also be a national one it fostered the current conflict in the Middle East and a shift for those who still loath Jews to npow add to the reasons.

We Jews can foster respect, hate, distrust, envy. Sometimes its deliberate, sometimes it is unintentional, and sometimes it has nothing to do with us at all and we therefore should not apologize for or take responsibility for.

You didnt foster it cause that wasnt your fault. You dont have to take responsibility for hate but the constant fear is making Israel act out against everyone blindly which is why you have people in your own government that are proud of the murder of former prime ministers and an government filled with extremists who think they can say the exact same thing as hamas and pretend like everyone wont notice. There will never be peace as long as likud is around.

The thing you pretend all muslim states agree on is simply not so. You would not have the cease fire with the PLO or the abraham accords if that were true.


Israel is going to have to take responsibility for the humanitarian crisis it blindly creates.

Im rather tired of funding this extremely paranoid state.
 
You didnt foster it cause that wasnt your fault. You dont have to take responsibility for hate but the constant fear is making Israel act out against everyone blindly which is why you have people in your own government that are proud of the murder of former prime ministers and an government filled with extremists who think they can say the exact same thing as hamas and pretend like everyone wont notice. There will never be peace as long as likud is around.

The thing you pretend all muslim states agree on is simply not so. You would not have the cease fire with the PLO or the abraham accords if that were true.


Israel is going to have to take responsibility for the humanitarian crisis it blindly creates.

Im rather tired of funding this extremely paranoid state.
Neville Chamberlain was one of the worst leaders in the history of mankind.
 
Crazy times when she (Marjorie Taylor Greene) makes more sense on this subject than 95% of our politicians and media.
" ....... why (must we )sacrifice our own to defend some other country’s borders .........Taking this position is NOT antisemitic." MTG

I never thought I would ever say MTG was right about anything, but she is right about this. Netanyahu, got us into the Iraq war. He is about to get us into this war he started with Iran. He claims Iran is just days away from making nuclear bombs. He was wrong about Iraq's WMD he is wrong about Iran's nuclear bombs. If Iran wanted the bomb they would have had one before now.

Our economy is strong because oil is bought, sold using USD. If we bomb Iran they will increase oil trade with China strengthen the renminbi and weakening the US petrodollar value. The dollar has already been weakened. Our talks with Iran would have resulted in benefits to us. Netanyahu has economic and political reasons for weakening the USD in a war with Iran. We have a lot to lose and nothing to gain by fighting Netanyahu's war with Iran. We have a great deal to gain from better relations with Iran.



This is not antisemitism. This is self preservation. It is not about Israel's right to defend itself. It is about the stability of the USD.
 
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You didnt foster it cause that wasnt your fault. You dont have to take responsibility for hate but the constant fear is making Israel act out against everyone blindly which is why you have people in your own government that are proud of the murder of former prime ministers and an government filled with extremists who think they can say the exact same thing as hamas and pretend like everyone wont notice. There will never be peace as long as likud is around.

The thing you pretend all muslim states agree on is simply not so. You would not have the cease fire with the PLO or the abraham accords if that were true.


Israel is going to have to take responsibility for the humanitarian crisis it blindly creates.

Im rather tired of funding this extremely paranoid state.

The ceasefire with the PLO as Arafat admitted was just a technique he used to stall for time. Arafat admitted he had zero intention of ever accepting a Jewish state and only signed the treaty you refer to as a stalling tactic. I am surprised you skip that.

By the way you may not think so, but Israel unlike the Muslim Arab world and its many terror cells, openly admits in its elected assembly, courts, synagogues and media, that it is faulty and has made mistakes-you will not find that in the Muslim Arab world with due respect.

Its easy for you to call Israel a paranoid state because you do not live in such a small space so close to terrorists and missiles coming at you. You talk like someone thousands of miles from a conflict who has never been shot at or realizes just how small Israel and the West Bank or Gaza is.

Are you paranoid because you fear people in questionable neighbourhoods or if you walk late at night on a street? Really? Paranoid to you is survival awareness to others.

I do not pretend. I lived there. I witnessed the deaths. I do not pretend. I do not pretend to speak for an Israeli and claim to understand their existential fear. I do not pretend or intend to speak what causes a Palestinian to fear the IDF in uniform.

I do not pretend at what wearing the IDF uniform means or why having to kill terrorists is not some kind fo paranoia nor does it arise in a vacuum because Israel has no reason to believe what these terrorists will do and have been doing to Jews in the ME in modern times since the 1920s consecutively and prior to that, dating back to earlier periods of history.

WIth due respect you speak with very colonial, imperialistic, patronizing terms and references that trivialize and belittle the history and reality of the oppression of Jews in the Middle East and the steps they have had to take to survive. I must ask do you call Palestinians the same terms or do you only see them as trauma victims?

You remind me of someone telling a woman she should not fear walking the streets at night alone or going to a parking lot to get her car in a large apartment because that would be paranoid.

You need someone to take you on a jeep late at night in the Negev and see how easy it is to fnfiltrate to kill or clean up a body from a nail bomb. That is the reality of why what you call paranoia I call a fear.

Its some times referred to as seige mentality, ptsd, general anxiety syndrome, dystonia, depression, all kinds of names for shell shock or for people who live under constant threat. It causes the body to develop a kind of hard outside shell that appears to you bitter and paranoid but encases a soul or spirit struggling to exist.

I see it in people on both sides. Do you or only on one side? You certainly lump all Israelis into a simple genera; category for hoisiting moral culpability on them for the conflict they face as if they and they alone can stop it.
 
The ceasefire with the PLO as Arafat admitted was just a technique he used to stall for time. Arafat admitted he had zero intention of ever accepting a Jewish state and only signed the treaty you refer to as a stalling tactic. I am surprised you skip that.

By the way you may not think so, but Israel unlike the Muslim Arab world and its many terror cells, openly admits in its elected assembly, courts, synagogues and media, that it is faulty and has made mistakes-you will not find that in the Muslim Arab world with due respect.

Its easy for you to call Israel a paranoid state because you do not live in such a small space so close to terrorists and missiles coming at you. You talk like someone thousands of miles from a conflict who has never been shot at or realizes just how small Israel and the West Bank or Gaza is.

Are you paranoid because you fear people in questionable neighbourhoods or if you walk late at night on a street? Really? Paranoid to you is survival awareness to others.

I do not pretend. I lived there. I witnessed the deaths. I do not pretend. I do not pretend to speak for an Israeli and claim to understand their existential fear. I do not pretend or intend to speak what causes a Palestinian to fear the IDF in uniform.

I do not pretend at what wearing the IDF uniform means or why having to kill terrorists is not some kind fo paranoia nor does it arise in a vacuum because Israel has no reason to believe what these terrorists will do and have been doing to Jews in the ME in modern times since the 1920s consecutively and prior to that, dating back to earlier periods of history.

WIth due respect you speak with very colonial, imperialistic, patronizing terms and references that trivialize and belittle the history and reality of the oppression of Jews in the Middle East and the steps they have had to take to survive. I must ask do you call Palestinians the same terms or do you only see them as trauma victims?

You remind me of someone telling a woman she should not fear walking the streets at night alone or going to a parking lot to get her car in a large apartment because that would be paranoid.

You need someone to take you on a jeep late at night in the Negev and see how easy it is to fnfiltrate to kill or clean up a body from a nail bomb. That is the reality of why what you call paranoia I call a fear.

Its some times referred to as seige mentality, ptsd, general anxiety syndrome, dystonia, depression, all kinds of names for shell shock or for people who live under constant threat. It causes the body to develop a kind of hard outside shell that appears to you bitter and paranoid but encases a soul or spirit struggling to exist.

I see it in people on both sides. Do you or only on one side? You certainly lump all Israelis into a simple genera; category for hoisiting moral culpability on them for the conflict they face as if they and they alone can stop it.
What looks to me is a nation bent on revenge i dont need to live there to know what revenge looks like. I also dont live in a place where constant bombing and multi decade blockades of essentials.
 
I never thought I would ever say MTG was right about anything, but she is right about this. Netanyahu, got us into the Iraq war. He is about to get us into this war he started with Iran. He claims Iran is just days away from making nuclear bombs. He was wrong about Iraq's WMD he is wrong about Iran's nuclear bombs. If Iran wanted the bomb they would have had one before now.

Our economy is strong because oil is bought, sold using USD. If we bomb Iran they will increase oil trade with China strengthen the renminbi and weakening the US petrodollar value. The dollar has already been weakened. Our talks with Iran would have resulted in benefits to us. Netanyahu has economic and political reasons for weakening the USD in a war with Iran. We have a lot to lose and nothing to gain by fighting Netanyahu's war with Iran. We have a great deal to gain from better relations with Iran.



This is not antisemitism. This is self preservation. It is not about Israel's right to defend itself. It is about the stability of the USD.

I agree with your criticisms of Netanyahu but you know I can not nor can you agree that we blame all Israelis or pretend Iran did not have to be stopped or try suggest Israel does not care about peace and is paranoid, etc.

One of my fears is I am very upfront about criticizing Netanyahu policies but it provides unfortunately an excuse for some to blame Israel and heep moral culpability on Israel for the current conflict and other conflicts.

Some of the critivism of Netanyahu is not about him-it goes further and blames ALL Israelis, ALL people who support the right of Israel to exist free of terror in a Jewish state. It labels all IDF members as genocidal murderers. No that is not right.

Thanks.
 
I agree with your criticisms of Netanyahu but you know I can not nor can you agree that we blame all Israelis or pretend Iran did not have to be stopped or try suggest Israel does not care about peace and is paranoid, etc.

One of my fears is I am very upfront about criticizing Netanyahu policies but it provides unfortunately an excuse for some to blame Israel and heep moral culpability on Israel for the current conflict and other conflicts.

Some of the critivism of Netanyahu is not about him-it goes further and blames ALL Israelis, ALL people who support the right of Israel to exist free of terror in a Jewish state. It labels all IDF members as genocidal murderers. No that is not right.

Thanks.
Israel as it is governed is exactly what i am talking about which is quite frankly losing everyone because they dont give a shit who suffers as long as the government gets its way.
 
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