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Breaking: Israel launches 'preemptive strike' against Iran, declares state of emergency



Saddened that you've chosen the pro-Iran side I've ignored most of what you've posted in this thread - but this is beyond the pale.

What sitting U.S. President do you claim the Israelis have killed?

PLO member and Muslim Supremacist Sirhan Sirhan killed presidential candidate Bobby Kennedy, but that's as close as I can get to any fact to that claim.
 
I don't think that would discount the reports. It didn't say that Khamenei was in Russia. For all we know the Mossad had already tapped Iran's communications and hit Khamenei on his way to the airport.

Also, Assad's deal made sense because Assad was a secular leader who wouldn't pose any threat to Russian leadership, while Khamenei would be a threat to Russia from the moment he crossed into Russian airspace.

Putin is a lunatic and is prone to grave miscalculations, especially in the last 10 years, but I just don't see him letting a radical cleric who lead the biggest terror state in the world come set up shop in Russia.

Hell, I've now talked myself into thinking maybe Russia gave Israel the heads up! 😄
Except Iran isn’t “the biggest terror state in the world”, and your claims sound an awful lot like wishful thinking on the part of Israel, who, like apartheid South Africa before it, is desperate for an end to resistance to its colonization of other people’s land.
 
That is the stupidest post I've ever read.

The reason there is a conflict in the ME is precisely because "Palestine is not a state. It is controlled by Israel."

The Palestinians belong in Palestine and the ASS-k-NAZI Zionists should relocate elsewhere and form a country call Israel.
There is no evidence anywhere that indicates there would be no conflict in the Middle East if Palestine, heaven forbid, were to become a state.
 
The correct response was not to murder tens of thousands of innocent civilians in hopes of stealing their land, obviously.

When an enemy launches an unprovoked attack - killing them is far from murder.

Did we murder millions of Germans in WWII? And what of the Japanese?

All Muslim Supremacists need to do is stop attacking Israel and there will be peace.

If Israel stops defending, there will be genocide.
 
When an enemy launches an unprovoked attack - killing them is far from murder.

Did we murder millions of Germans in WWII? And what of the Japanese?

All Muslim Supremacists need to do is stop attacking Israel and there will be peace.

If Israel stops defending, there will be genocide.
Israel is the attacker, didn't you notice? Iran is retaliating. Israel targeted civilian scientists. A war crime.
 
There is no evidence anywhere that indicates there would be no conflict in the Middle East if Palestine, heaven forbid, were to become a state.
HUH?
WTF !!!!!

You have no idea what you are talking about .

the ONLY reason there is a conflict in the ME is because the ASS-k-NAZI Zionists invaded Palestine. That is it.
 
All Muslim Supremacists need to do is stop attacking Israel and there will be peace.
I am sure they will AS SOON AS THE INVADING ZIONISTS LEAVE PALESTINE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
It takes an incredible amount of arrogance - ignorance? - to claim that the Palestinians' attempt to regain their sovereignty is an act of terrorism and genocide

There is no such thing as "Palestinian."

You mean Arabs and Muslim Supremacists. Muslims control 99% of the Middle East, you're outraged the greedy Jews won't give them the last 1%
 
HUH?
WTF !!!!!

You have no idea what you are talking about .

the ONLY reason there is a conflict in the ME is because the ASS-k-NAZI Zionists invaded Palestine. That is it.
I presume you are referring to the IDF going into Gaza following the attack by Hamas which left 1200 Israelis dead and took 250 Israelis hostage.
You call that an invasion? And not retaliation?
SO Israel should have done nothing to punish the terrorist group Hamas for their treacherous attack?
 
When an enemy launches an unprovoked attack - killing them is far from murder.

Did we murder millions of Germans in WWII? And what of the Japanese?

All Muslim Supremacists need to do is stop attacking Israel and there will be peace.

If Israel stops defending, there will be genocide.
Gee, so by your logic October 7th wasn’t “murder”, as constant Israeli attacks on Palestinian civilians in the years prior were clearly both unprovoked and provocations.

If we are using World War Two as the standard Israel has even less room to complain.

Israel’s actions in the West Bank, which is not controlled by Hamas, shows that to be a falsehood.

Israel isn’t “defending itself” in the first place.
 
I am sure they will AS SOON AS THE INVADING ZIONISTS LEAVE PALESTINE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Invading since 3000 BC?

Funny how you don't demand the invading Muslims leave Constantinople.
 
When an enemy launches an unprovoked attack - killing them is far from murder.

Did we murder millions of Germans in WWII? And what of the Japanese?

All Muslim Supremacists need to do is stop attacking Israel and there will be peace.

If Israel stops defending, there will be genocide.
Good summary. Couldn't have said it better myself.
Israel without a defense would be like the 6 million Jews exterminated in WW II.
No army or air force. Then no country or Israeli population. Simple equation.
 
What sitting U.S. President do you claim the Israelis have killed?
Israel claims that it was ready kill Iran's Khomeini
Israel - Right Wingers - Likudnicks - killed their OWN PRESIDENT Yitzhak Rabin,
but but but
They are not going to kill President Trump
 
Gee, so by your logic October 7th wasn’t “murder”, as constant Israeli attacks on Palestinian civilians in the years prior were clearly both unprovoked and provocations.

If we are using World War Two as the standard Israel has even less room to complain.

Israel’s actions in the West Bank, which is not controlled by Hamas, shows that to be a falsehood.

Israel isn’t “defending itself” in the first place.
Focus on where the problem is: Gaza and Hamas.
Quit whining about the West Bank and making it an unnecessary distraction in the grand scheme of things.
 
It's disturbing to watch tribalism over bad actors. All involved would genocide the others given enough rope. This was never going to end well.
 
Gee, so by your logic October 7th wasn’t “murder”, as constant Israeli attacks on Palestinian civilians in the years prior were clearly both unprovoked and provocations.

Weak, but illogical.

I rate the try a 1.2 out of 10.

If we are using World War Two as the standard Israel has even less room to complain.

I know right? I mean, being attacked constantly but not surrendering to the Muslim invaders. Don't the Jews know that any land once conquered by Islam must be under Muslim rule for all eternity? How dare they reclaim their ancestral homeland?

Israel’s actions in the West Bank, which is not controlled by Hamas, shows that to be a falsehood.

Which actions do you allude to.

Israel isn’t “defending itself” in the first place.

The Jews just won't give Muslim land to the Muslim Supremacist forces - once conquered, land can never revert to the original owners and must be under Muslim rule.
 
I wish it was not so but I think world leaders are driven by security considerations that pose weakness as something the other side will exploit and is indeed considered weakness. Classic example, Neville Chamberlain, Haile Selassie.

How did they do with Hitler and Mussolini? Think they were respected?

You think people like Trump, Putin, Erdogan, the Ayatollah of Iran, the Prince in Saudi Arabia, that fat boy in North Korea, Xi in China, are not hardwired to disrepect weakness?

You think the US is NOT hard wired from its culture to believe might is right? Why do you think the US identity is so heavily fused to owning a gun?

The entire world at one point defined anyone not white (a colonial power) as contemptable savages, i.e., weak and so in need of control.

In my people's history, Jews were considered weak precisely because we did not in foreign countries carry weapons and shoot back if attacked.

You think aboriginal and native peoples were not defined as "weak" and therefore not entitled to respect for their way of life? There are other words for weakness-less human, savage, primative, female, gay, slave. All depends in how you apply the belief that the weakness entitles the weak targetted person or group to be treated with contempt or unfairness.

I would mlost certainly argue homo sapiens as a species is by inherent primal nature hardwired to have an alpha male dominate beta males, and so yes its hardwired and we have to learn to repress that hardwire and we are doing a half assed job of it.

On the other hand I very much appreciate the point you are making and would say we would hope if homlo sapiens can evolve we can develop our brains to evolve past that hard-wiring and create new hard wiring so to speak. I also believe that is possible and is underway.

Whether we live long enough to evolve past our alpha male knuckle dragging behaviour remains to be seen.

I think myself chimpanzees, orangutans, guerillas, baboons, have passed us. Certainly whales, dolphins, porpoises.
have. In fact which animal form kills indiscriminately like we do although many smell weakness and depend on that skill to eat the vulnerable as part of the survival of the fittest rule.
In order to have peace we have to break this or we’re just not going to have a future at all. You can talk about chimps all you want but in reality human nature aint all that simple.

Israel is not really a country that fosters peace.

The world order we have built is not built to foster peace, it is built to continue conflict because it is a zero sum game.
 
Invading since 3000 BC?

Funny how you don't demand the invading Muslims leave Constantinople.
SHUT THE **** UP

MIZRAHI JEWS HAVE PEACEFULLY LIVED SIDE BY SIDE WITH THE PALESTINIANS FOR THOUSANDS OF YEARS

BUT AFTER 1924 the WHITE SUPREMACISTS - THE ASS-k-NAZIS DEMANDED THAT ALL PALESTINIANS BE KILLED
 
Israel claims that it was ready kill Iran's Khomeini

And?

What sitting U.S. President is Israel kill?

I get that your loyalty is to Iran, not America, but the claim was that Israel killed a U.S. President - where and when?

Israel - Right Wingers - Likudnicks - killed their OWN PRESIDENT Yitzhak Rabin,

Neo-Nazi conspiracy theory.

but but but
They are not going to kill President Trump

Why would they? Trump backs Israel and the right of Jews to continue living - unlike Biden and the Obama thugs.
 
Invading since 3000 BC?

Funny how you don't demand the invading Muslims leave Constantinople.
Gee, if it wasn’t for the Crusaders sacking Constantinople and badly weakening the Byzantine Empire its eventual collapse to the Ottomans likely would have been averted altogether.
 
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