At least 8 white nationalists are running for federal office (video)

[Saladin4]

Now are these serious candidates with any actual chance of winning the district they are running in? Or are these throw away or crack pot candidates in a district that is so blue that the GOP doesn't bother actually running any serious candidate because it would be a huge waste of money to run a real candidate in that district? Like that guy in Illinois that has about the same chance of winning as I do getting my dick sucked tonight by Mila Kunis or some other hot Hollywood actress?

You sound crude...Like Rosanne Barr

 

[Zyphlin]

So honest question here, because I don't know...

If a person passes the necessary hurdles set forth in the state GOP's requirements to be on a ballot, does the state party have the power or ability to remove them from the ballot?

i.e. lets say you have a district that for 48 out of the past 50 years has gone Democratic. No serious candidate bothers to run on the Republican ticket because it's basically the equivalent of taking your money, putting it in a trash can, and dropping a match in with it. So some lunatic with an agenda and time to spare takes the necessary steps to get on the ballot, and since no one else has bothered to waste their time and money, they win by default.

If the party has nothing in their state apparatus to realistically remove such a guy, is that really a condemnation on the Republicans or an indication that they "support" such a lunatic...or is it simply the reality of people in the district being pragmatic and the asshole taking advantage of the situation?

If there are instances where these kind of individuals who are legitimately and openly white nationalists (and not just a nationalist individual that's against illegal immigration, which while we can argue about the level of reprehensibility of such a person is different than a white nationalist) are winning against actual other candidates in a primary, then that's definitely troubling for those areas where it happens. However, if most of them are getting in through backdoor situations where reasonable candidates just aren't wasting their time slamming their heads against a wall, that's hardly something one can reasonable condemn the party itself over and tar them as under a similar banner.

 

[Zyphlin]

I do not wish to answer for Renae, but for me personally, I do not trust the judgment of the Southern Poverty Law Center for the fact that they labeled Maajid Nawaz, one of the most decent, moderate critics of radical Islam (and himself a British Pakistani Muslim and former Liberal Democrat parliamentary candidate) an anti-Muslim extremist. This characterization was utterly nonsensical. The man runs a counter-extremism think tank aimed at stopping young Muslims from joining radical groups and empowering Muslims across the world (mainly in South Asia) to counter extremism in their countries. They only took him off their list when he threatened legal action against them.

I do not give blanket credence to everything the Southern Poverty Law Center puts out. They have essentially become a left-wing John Birch Society. But instead of smearing people who steps slightly outside of their Overton Window a communist or communist sympathizer, they dub them "extremists," if not outright racists when they shoot from the hip.

Now as for these white supremacists who are running, I would wish to know: Have any of them ever run before? Because I remember Arthur Jones, who is a Nazi, ran perennially as the GOP candidate and won because the GOP did not put forward any other people in a Democrat-run district and has lost regularly. But the media only paid attention to him after Donald Trump had entered office as though Trump was somehow responsible for this piece of garbage taking the nomination (because technically anyone can call themselves a Republican or Democrat and run as one even if the party decries or disavows them). In other words, are these new candidates who have never run before? Or is the SPLC just raising a stink over a bunch a racist losers who have run continuously and failed to achieve national office, but are only given attention because Donald Trump magically empowered candidates who were just as awful back before Donald Trump emerged onto the political scene?

Wonderful post and write up. I'll have to save it for later.

Like movements, groups can shift and twist over the years...especially as the thing that is their purpose and their mission becomes less extreme or prevalent, thus requiring them to either retract themselves (anathema to anything that ultimately provides someone any level of power), broaden their scope, or treat the lesser instances as if they are just as big.

I don't discount the great work that the SLPC has done in the past or their overall purpose, but nor do I assume that those running, operating, and guiding it today are the exact same people and mindset as those from their first couple decades. The country and it's institutions and groups, especially political ones, have become more galvanized and politicized over the past two decades and I don't think they're an exception to this. That doesn't mean they should be discounted outright, but I also do not think that they are an abject unbiased and objective reviewer of issues that are dispassionate analysts of individuals and groups rather than activists that recognize the power and influence that their words and designations can impart for their desires of what they view as "progress".

 

[TurtleDude]

At least 8 white nationalists running for federal office

MSNBC’s Morgan Radford spoke with white nationalists who are running for federal office this year on the Republican ticket. According to the Southern Poverty Law Center, at least eight white nationalists are running, more than ever before.
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Tiki torch sales will be booming come November. American Nazi Party, Holocaust deniers, Trump fans. One big happy party.

Until Trump got the nomination, the loony left never claimed he was a

racist
fascist
nazi
white supremacist and so forth

btw the SPLC is one of the worst left wing hysterical propaganda centers in the USA. they call anyone to the right of Bill Clinton a RW extremist

 

[TurtleDude]

Here you go: https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entr...g-for-office-2018_us_5a7da926e4b0c6726e1285c1

All The White Supremacists Running For Office In 2018

On Feb. 6, the Chicago Sun-Times reported that Arthur Jones, a longtime neo-Nazi, is poised to be the Republican nominee for a seat in Congress representing parts of Chicago and its suburbs.

Jones is running unopposed in the GOP primary, set for March 20, and is almost certain to lose in the general election. (The district he’s running to represent has voted for Democratic candidates in 24 of the last 25 elections.)

His campaign website includes a document called “The ‘Holocaust’ Racket,” which describes the well-documented genocide of 6 million Jews by German Nazis during World War II as “the biggest blackest lie in history.”
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Be Warned: There Are Actual White Supremacists Running For Office

Be Warned: There Are Actual White Supremacists Running For Office

some fringe nut running in an area where he can get a platform but has no chance of winning because mainstream Republicans aren't going to waste time nor money in that district? BFD

 

[TurtleDude]

Love the conservatives running interference here for racists. I guess they are "very fine people."

you miss the point. conservatives and libertarians tire of the loony left trying to claim that racist white extremists are mainstream republicans which is what the OP is trying to do. The last Klan member to run in my area was a guy named Van Loman and yeah, he ran as a Democrat. He was no more a typical Southern Ohio Democrat than these racist losers are Republicans

 

[Parrish]

And yet no Dem is running as a white supremacist.

 

[TurtleDude]

SPLC documents groups they hate. Namely right wing goose steppers as you put it.

their main schtick is to scare wealthy elderly Jewish and Black folks into giving them more money: they do this by trying to accentuate the real number of dangerous anti semitic and racist groups in order to make their existence seem more important

 

[TurtleDude]

And yet no Dem is running as a white supremacist.

really? not one in the entire country?

 

[TurtleDude]

And yet no Dem is running as a white supremacist.

looks like you are either ignorant or untruthful

White supremacist files to run in Great Falls legislative race | | helenair.com

now this clown has previously run as a republican and I don't blame either party for him but he belies your claim

 

[TurtleDude]

The SPLC

The Southern Poverty Law Center Is A Hate-Mongering Scam

https://www.nationalreview.com/2018/03/southern-poverty-law-center-bias-hate-group-labels-scam/

There was a time when the Southern Poverty Law Center did useful work reporting on actual hate groups such as the KKK. These days, though, the SPLC is simply a MoveOn or Media Matters–style outfit. Its core mission now is trying to marginalize and shut up even mildly right-of-center voices by calling them instruments of hate, making increasingly strained attempts to tie conservative commentators, authors, political figures, and professors to the alt-right or neo-Nazism. At the same time it elevates absurd bloggers to the level of potential leaders of lynch mobs.

The equivalent of a Drudge-siren moment for SPLC is when it rolls out yet another faux-neutral report on hate, which is always getting worse and threatening to engulf the republic. The SPLC’s report on “Male supremacy,” which it calls “a hateful ideology for the subjugation of women” and ties to the men’s-rights activists lurking on 4Chan and Reddit who boast about their supposed dominance of women, lists as pernicious allies the psychologist, author, and PJ Media columnist Helen Smith and the American Enterprise Institute scholar Christina Hoff Sommers, calling them “anti-feminist female voices” who “give the men’s rights movement a veneer of even-handedness” and lend a “mainstream and respectable face to some MRA concerns.”

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/2...w_center_is_a_hate-mongering_scam_441739.html

 

[ecofarm]

their main schtick is to scare wealthy elderly Jewish and Black folks into giving them more money: they do this by trying to accentuate the real number of dangerous anti semitic and racist groups in order to make their existence seem more important

There's no need to exaggerate racism and antisemitism. A billion dollars would not solve them tomorrow.

Being anti SPLC is a dog whistle.

 

[jimbo]

The messenger isn't the fault here. It is the message: white nationalist pro-Nazi Holocaust deniers are running for federal offices, likely emboldened by Trump's equivocal reaction to Charlottesville & a lot more.

There is nothing in our Constitution that precludes anyone running based on their position or opinion. It's the job of the voters to keep anybody out of or into office.

I doubt if any of the so called white supremacists will get more than 1 or 2% of the vote.

 

[TurtleDude]

There's no need to exaggerate racism and antisemitism. A billion dollars would not solve them tomorrow.

Being anti SPLC is a dog whistle.

being pro SPLC is the sign of gullibility or stupidity

 

[ecofarm]

being pro SPLC is the sign of gullibility or stupidity

You really have no idea how that appears, do you.

 

[TurtleDude]

You really have no idea how that appears, do you.

sure I do but to someone who thinks Blacks cannot be racists, I am sure its upsetting. The world would be better off without the SPLC and its scum bag leader Morris Dees

 

[ecofarm]

sure I do

You realize it makes one look like a raging racist?

but to someone who thinks Blacks cannot be racists,

You know that's a semantic point yet you exploit the ignorant in pretending it's something else. You're not ignorant, you're acting rhetorically.

I am sure its upsetting.

You believe you upset me? You do know there are a million raging racists, many at this forum. Why would your employing their rhetoric upset me?

The world would be better off without the SPLC and its scum bag leader Morris Dees

Well, hate groups sure would be.

 

[beefheart]

being pro SPLC is the sign of gullibility or stupidity

Same challenge I threw to Renae before she chickened out.

Please provide the proof (show your work) that these 8 are not white nationalists. I don't give a rat's ass whether you like the SPLC or not. But your whining is just inane.

 

[jimbo]

And yet no Dem is running as a white supremacist.

Actually according to the link, one is.

Huffpo link, post 8

John Abarr, a white supremacist who grabbed national headlines in 2014 for confusingly wanting to recruit black and LGBTQ people to the KKK, is running for the Montana state House of Representatives as a Democrat.

 

[TurtleDude]

You realize it makes one look like a raging racist?



You know that's a semantic point yet you exploit the ignorant in pretending it's something else. You're not ignorant, you're acting rhetorically.



You believe you upset me? You do know there are a million raging racists, many at this forum. Why would your employing their rhetoric upset me?



Well, hate groups sure would be.

you calling anyone a racist or suggesting they are racist has no value whatsoever given your nonsensical view of racism. racist and racism are terms that have been thrown around so many times -usually by lefties-that is really has no value whatsoever

 

[TurtleDude]

Same challenge I threw to Renae before she chickened out.

Please provide the proof (show your work) that these 8 are not white nationalists. I don't give a rat's ass whether you like the SPLC or not. But your whining is just inane.

I never denied they were. I don't care-running in an uncontested GOP primary in a deep blue district means nothing. your definition of "whining" is just plain idiotic BTW

 

[ecofarm]

you calling anyone a racist or suggesting they are racist has no value whatsoever given your nonsensical view of racism. racist and racism are terms that have been thrown around so many times -usually by lefties-that is really has no value whatsoever

Being hysterically against the SPLC makes one look like a raging racist.

Fact.

Deal with it.

 

[MateoMtnClimber]

The correspondent in the OP clip said most of the white nationalists are Republicans. I wonder how the eight candidates break down by party. Does anyone know?

 

[beefheart]

I never denied they were. I don't care-running in an uncontested GOP primary in a deep blue district means nothing. your definition of "whining" is just plain idiotic BTW

So, you just want to add your tired criticism of the SPLC, I got it. Gosh, how edgy.

 

[MateoMtnClimber]

https://www.nationalreview.com/2018/03/southern-poverty-law-center-bias-hate-group-labels-scam/

You trust the National Review more than the SPLC?