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I see, so during an epidemic of mass shootings we're attempting to minimise and deflect from the daily carnage infecting America. In this November alone there have been 31 mass shootings, so far, where four or more people were killed.Exactly. It only covered 17 (cherry picked) of those “mass shooting” events. What, exactly, made having “6 killed” so (exclusively?) important? That’s a problem with many who present “gun death” or “mass shooting” data, they carefully choose (cherry pick) which events to include (or exclude) based on which points they wish to make (or have ignored).
does anyone know if the pain of the family members who needlessly lost a loved one (again) has stopped yet?
What a piss-poor attempt at equivalence.Is that pain any less if the weapon used (abused?) by the criminal perp was a knife or club?
hang on. i'm gonna go check a Japanese message board and will report back.Is that pain any less if the weapon used (abused?) by the criminal perp was a knife or club?
Common use is perfectly clear, and has been defined by the SCOTUS.Depends on what you consider "common Use"
Exactly. It only covered 17 (cherry picked) of those “mass shooting” events. What, exactly, made having “6 killed” so (exclusively?) important? That’s a problem with many who present “gun death” or “mass shooting” data, they carefully choose (cherry pick) which events to include (or exclude) based on which points they wish to make (or have ignored).
Self defense, shooting paper targets, steel targets, clay targets etc.Hilarious. What else, apart from killing things and shooting at targets, are guns designed to do?
So in other words exactly what I stated; killing and target shooting. If someone's coming at you with ill intent, are you aiming to wound or kill? Any other uses you can think of for this versatile tool?Self defense, shooting paper targets, steel targets, clay targets etc.
I corrected you, and the other poster who said guns are designed to kill. That is demonstrably false.So in other words exactly what I stated; killing and target shooting. Anything else?
Oh please! Why does the military get issued with them if they aren't designed to kill the enemy? Why not use water pistols instead...because? You might as well be saying aeroplanes aren't designed to fly...I corrected you, and the other poster who said guns are designed to kill. That is demonstrably false.
Chesapeke was a "6 killed" event, which I compared against similar events. Demographically, there are vast differences between the low end / high end body count per mass shooting incident:
- Low body count mass shootings have the highest total death toll, and Blacks are vastly over-represented in this category; 4 to 6 killed, perhaps up to 7 or 8.
- High body counts (around 10+) occur far less frequently and tend to be committed by whites, Asians and Arabs. Blacks are under-represented in this hyper-exotic and hyper-rare class of mass shooters.
I can come up with some charts that show this, and come up with a more precise figure of when the number killed per incident becomes less Black and more white/Arab.
I corrected you, and the other poster who said guns are designed to kill. That is demonstrably false.
This is a moronic argument. They are USED to kill the enemy, they are not DESIGNED to do so. They are designed to propel a projectile.Oh please! Why does the military get issued with them if they aren't designed to kill the enemy?
Guns are not designed to kill. This is objectively true. You need to formulate an actual, coherent and factually correct argument.Why not use water pistols instead...because? You might as well be saying aeroplanes aren't designed to fly...
Another male shooter.The link: https://www.cnn.com/2022/11/22/us/chesapeake-virginia-walmart-shooting/index.html
The lede: "At least six people were killed in a mass shooting Tuesday night inside a Walmart in Chesapeake, Virginia, and the shooter is also dead, city officials said early Wednesday."
The comment: Guns.
Again.
Once again, our existing laws and their levels of enforcement were unable to prevent the tragedy of these deaths by gunshot.
On average, based upon data from 2020*, a death from gunshot occurs roughly every 12 minutes in the United States of America. Every 12 minutes, every hour, every day, around the clock.
Guns.
Again.
Ref: https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2022/02/03/what-the-data-says-about-gun-deaths-in-the-u-s/
Guns are not designed to kill. This is just reality. They can be used to kill, just like a softball bat.Most guns are designed to be (potentially) lethal weapons. Trying to deny that is both futile and ridiculous.
Weird take.Americans are not convinced that they live in a shitty society. It's why mass shootings are a thing here and nowhere else in the world. The rest of the world has social services that help regardless if you meet the min credit system. And in other nations, they have 'family' that are there to support you. Only in America do people not have either.
For nowCommon use is perfectly clear, and has been defined by the SCOTUS.
No, it depends upon what SCOTUS and other courts consider to be "in common use".Depends on what you consider "common Use"
Wrong on all levels.Americans are not convinced that they live in a shitty society. It's why mass shootings are a thing here and nowhere else in the world. The rest of the world has social services that help regardless if you meet the min credit system. And in other nations, they have 'family' that are there to support you. Only in America do people not have either.
Does there need to be anything else? Congress in the Gun Control Act of 1968 listed "...hunting, trap shooting, target shooting, personal protection and any other lawful purpose" as legitimate uses or firearms.Hilarious. What else, apart from killing things and shooting at targets, are guns designed to do?
I think this is the corker right here. Well said.
Guns are not designed to kill. This is just reality. They can be used to kill, just like a softball bat.
We live in the now, darling.For now
So you don’t understand the meaning of the term “for now”We live in the now, darling.
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