• This is a political forum that is non-biased/non-partisan and treats every person's position on topics equally. This debate forum is not aligned to any political party. In today's politics, many ideas are split between and even within all the political parties. Often we find ourselves agreeing on one platform but some topics break our mold. We are here to discuss them in a civil political debate. If this is your first visit to our political forums, be sure to check out the RULES. Registering for debate politics is necessary before posting. Register today to participate - it's free!

Asian boys beaten by BNP candidate Bob Bailey

MetalGear

In a house by the river
DP Veteran
Joined
Nov 25, 2009
Messages
1,233
Reaction score
197
Location
Denmark, Grena
Gender
Male
Political Leaning
Moderate
A fight broke out between a British National Party parliamentary candidate and some Asian men as party members were out campaigning in east London.
Some men earlier swore at leader Nick Griffin and threw fruit at him and he was taken away from the scene.
The candidate for Romford, Bob Bailey, was filmed shouting out to men in Ripple Road when one of them swore and spat at him and Mr Bailey punched him.
Police were called after 1500 BST to the fight between the two groups.
'Campaign of hatred'
At the time Metropolitan Police said they were called to the incident but no-one had been arrested at the scene.
Later however, police said an 18-year-old man attended Barking police station and alleged common assault against another man.
The Barking Community Safety Unit is to look into the matter.

BBC News - Asian men and BNP candidate Bob Bailey clash in Barking

Watch the video its hilarious!
 
Nowadays the thugs seem to be on the other side. Weyman Bennett must have been proud of those chaps.

(Was he released on bail or charged by the way?)
 
Last edited:
He was goaded by the Asians. Very uncivil of them.
 
Its London, these "gangsta's" dont care if you think they are civil or not.....Bob was asking for trouble and the Asians approached the situation in a way that made them more idiot-like than he. He gave them a good beating though.
 
Funny what ten years can do.

Back then New Labour was still on its honeymoon period (though not with me), the Tories were still punch drunk after the double-trauma of Thatcher's departure and the election loss, small parties like UKIP were seen as non-viable options and the BNP was a shamelessly lunatic irrelevance.


Now, New Labour has shamed itself into oblivion as much as Old Labour (see my huge dossier of links), the Tories have bounced back, the small parties are a serious threat combined, and the BNP are the ones now taking extremity and hostility.

[nomedia="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u8yZ63rX26Q&feature=related"]YouTube- Hammer attack on Liverpool BNP candidate !!![/nomedia]


As that bloke said, it's our misfortune to live in interesting times!
 
Last edited:
Funny what ten years can do.

Back then New Labour was still on its honeymoon period (though not with me), the Tories were still punch drunk after the double-trauma of Thatcher's departure and the election loss, small parties like UKIP were seen as non-viable options and the BNP was a shamelessly lunatic irrelevance.


Now, New Labour has shamed itself into oblivion as much as Old Labour (see my huge dossier of links), the Tories have bounced back, the small parties are a serious threat combined, and the BNP are the ones now taking extremity and hostility.

YouTube- Hammer attack on Liverpool BNP candidate !!!


As that bloke said, it's our misfortune to live in interesting times!

I was laughing at this interview i saw on the BBC. They where going around on the streets (BBC presenters) asking who people would vote for, and they stopped this one bloke, and he goes "Well to be honest mate, i voted BNP"

and they where speechless! :mrgreen:

Failure of New Labour has pushed these people into the extreme.
 
The headline ought to read "Bob Bailey, BNP candidate, forced to defend himself when attacked by Asians."

That's what happened. The existing title makes it sound like he beat them down for no reason.

I don't know BB or BNP from a hole in the ground, but I'll say good for him for beating up some punks who tried to start something.

You're absolutely right mate! Wish i could go back and edit it.
 
You're absolutely right mate! Wish i could go back and edit it.

It is very difficult to know what was going on from the clip.

It appears as a set up with the person with the camera waiting before anything happened to take the film.

It might be some people's belief that if someone spits at you you punch them and it certainly is provocation. However when John Prescott punched a protester for throwing eggs at him, charges were considered. His defence was that it was instinctual and he thought he was under attack.

If you look at the video though you will see that not only does Bob Bailey punch the man but he kicks him when he is down on the ground.

Appropriate behaviour from a street gang member maybe but not from someone who is trying to get the ability to write laws.

Again it is difficult to see from the clip what is happening. There are at least as many BNP's as the other and it looks to me like a set up.
 
I'm not sure it was a set-up. Looks like the clip started way later than the original footage would have began.

He certainly waded in and puffed up his chest, though if you have to against people intimidating you then, well, you have to. The UAF certainly more than would, even to those NOT intimidating them!

[nomedia="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Z01OkVHwD8"]YouTube- UAF LEADER ARRESTED AT BOLTON PROTEST RALLY ...WEYMAN BENNETT[/nomedia]




I reckon Bailey'd be just what they need to sort out Bishop Nazir-Ali's Muslim no-go areas!

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1574694/Bishop-warns-of-no-go-zones-for-non-Muslims.html
 
Last edited:
It is very difficult to know what was going on from the clip.

It appears as a set up with the person with the camera waiting before anything happened to take the film --

I certainly disagree that anyone beat anyone up and I don't think it was a set up. It will as you say be interesting to see what the police think of the on-screen fracas and who they think threw the first punch.

Does spitting count as assault? (genuine question)
 
I certainly disagree that anyone beat anyone up and I don't think it was a set up. It will as you say be interesting to see what the police think of the on-screen fracas and who they think threw the first punch.

Does spitting count as assault? (genuine question)

I don't know but I suspect it is.
 
I don't know but I suspect it is.
Legally, spitting is classed as assault in the U.K.
Personally, i wouldn't have left it at spitting ;)
After all the years I've been spat at and threatened by bnp members, and their neo-nazi ancestors...
 
It is very difficult to know what was going on from the clip.

It appears as a set up with the person with the camera waiting before anything happened to take the film.

It might be some people's belief that if someone spits at you you punch them and it certainly is provocation. However when John Prescott punched a protester for throwing eggs at him, charges were considered. His defence was that it was instinctual and he thought he was under attack.

If you look at the video though you will see that not only does Bob Bailey punch the man but he kicks him when he is down on the ground.

Appropriate behaviour from a street gang member maybe but not from someone who is trying to get the ability to write laws.

Again it is difficult to see from the clip what is happening. There are at least as many BNP's as the other and it looks to me like a set up.

It was assault, and he defended himself. BNP or not, these far left anti-fascist groups and your ordinary brainless rude boy have no right to use provocative behaviour or violence to get them off the streets. Spitting - bad move. The BNP wooped some arse and im glad they did. Had the BNP member spat at the Asian boys, i'd be supporting the other side.
 
It was assault, and he defended himself. BNP or not, these far left anti-fascist groups and your ordinary brainless rude boy have no right to use provocative behaviour or violence to get them off the streets. Spitting - bad move. The BNP wooped some arse and im glad they did. Had the BNP member spat at the Asian boys, i'd be supporting the other side.

Then you are different to me. I don't want members of parliament who kick people when they are down on the ground.

I am not saying spitting was right, because it is not, but punching and then kicking a member of the public by someone wanting office is not appropriate behaviour to me.

I still believe it was a set up. What was the camera doing taking the picture before the confrontation?

Again I am not saying provocation is right but if you agree with responding to provocation by punching people and kicking them when they are down......I don't and the idea that such people would govern this country suggests an enormous lowering of our standards because like it or not if someone is standing for Parliament, that is the basis on which they must be judged.
 
It was assault, and he defended himself. BNP or not, these far left anti-fascist groups and your ordinary brainless rude boy have no right to use provocative behaviour or violence to get them off the streets. Spitting - bad move. The BNP wooped some arse and im glad they did. Had the BNP member spat at the Asian boys, i'd be supporting the other side.
I agree.
I don't like the BNP and their radical opinions, but there are basic human behavior codes.
Spitting at a person sure as hell makes it legitimate for that person to kick your ass, from both the law and the moral perspectives.
 
Then you are different to me. I don't want members of parliament who kick people when they are down on the ground.
I agree, that doesn't work in a PMs advantage, at least not for me. At the same time it should be perfectly clear that threatening (the way they walked up to him) and spitting politicians crosses bounderies. I would (still) support a harsh sentence to give the public a signal.
 
What are you talking about? I want politicians who kick people while they are down, thats why you put them down! I want a guy who runs his office like a battlefield, never give the enemy any room, when they are down, you make sure they stay down!
 
What are you talking about? I want politicians who kick people while they are down, thats why you put them down! I want a guy who runs his office like a battlefield, never give the enemy any room, when they are down, you make sure they stay down!
I just want a politician that kicks criminals' asses.
 
Then you are different to me. I don't want members of parliament who kick people when they are down on the ground.

I am not saying spitting was right, because it is not, but punching and then kicking a member of the public by someone wanting office is not appropriate behaviour to me.

I dont think Parliamentary members should be exempt from self defence. You cannot dictate as a British individual your morals and expectations of candidate members from on-the-side political parties when the mainstream oppositions are raking up huge expenses to buy horse manure and porn video's. Surely in light of this his actions to defend himself from assault is hardly inappropriate behaviour.

I still believe it was a set up. What was the camera doing taking the picture before the confrontation?

Editing software?

Again I am not saying provocation is right but if you agree with responding to provocation by punching people and kicking them when they are down......I don't and the idea that such people would govern this country suggests an enormous lowering of our standards

I completely disagree. It was an action of self defence. He didnt interview an innocent lady and call her a "bigot", or use our money for shameless reasons, he defended himself. That behaviour is acceptable. What i am seeing from the Conservatives and Labour is not. Yet people (and probably you) are perfectly happy to put one of them in downing street.

because like it or not if someone is standing for Parliament, that is the basis on which they must be judged.

I believe it to be irrelevant. What would you he rather did? Stand and get beaten? Good on him.
 
And the result for the BNP? Third place for Nick Griffin in Barking:

UK ELECTION RESULTS 2010: BNP's Nick Griffin concedes Barking defeat | Mail Online

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/shared/election2010/results/constituency/a11.stm

(They kept the 'pro-paedo' Margaret Hoxha! After all that time whining about Labour's immigration policy and all else. Even the Tory didn't come near. Despite the clamour of the Left, it wasn't a 'fight against fascism', it was something much darker to my senses. Well, in that case I reckon the barking Barking folk aren't entitled to moan any more.)



He'll 'go back' to being an MEP now. I'm not sure they got anywhere in Stoke either, but nationally they got 555,000+ votes, according to this so far, which for them is a record:

BBC NEWS | Election 2010 | Results | United Kingdom - National Results



I'll keep an eye on what little they can trumpet today. They do far better in local elections, though the party can still have a political impact far in excess of its true proportion.

BNP ELECTION RESULTS
 
Last edited:
I'm still trying to find the Asian boys in the video.
 
And the result for the BNP? Third place for Nick Griffin in Barking:

UK ELECTION RESULTS 2010: BNP's Nick Griffin concedes Barking defeat | Mail Online

BBC News | Election 2010 | Constituency | Barking

(They kept the 'pro-paedo' Margaret Hoxha! After all that time whining about Labour's immigration policy and all else. Even the Tory didn't come near. Despite the clamour of the Left, it wasn't a 'fight against fascism', it was something much darker to my senses. Well, in that case I reckon the barking Barking folk aren't entitled to moan any more.)



He'll 'go back' to being an MEP now. I'm not sure they got anywhere in Stoke either, but nationally they got 555,000+ votes, according to this so far, which for them is a record:

BBC NEWS | Election 2010 | Results | United Kingdom - National Results



I'll keep an eye on what little they can trumpet today. They do far better in local elections, though the party can still have a political impact far in excess of its true proportion.

BNP ELECTION RESULTS

Im surprised they won in Barking and Dagenham.
Every time i go to Barking i play a game of spot-the-white when im driving in my car (failed attempt at humour not racism lol). Its literally packed out with Asians down there. Dagenham im not a frequent visitor of so i cant really comment but i should imagine the situation is the same since they are very close (or is that Basildon?)
 
Last edited:
Its London, these "gangsta's" dont care if you think they are civil or not.....Bob was asking for trouble and the Asians approached the situation in a way that made them more idiot-like than he. He gave them a good beating though.

5 on 3 will do that.
The man is a wucking fanker.
 
Back
Top Bottom