Around 350,000 Americans will die from COVID in 12 months. Is that winning?

[EMNofSeattle]

Quote one person that said that.

It doesn’t matter if you’ve said exactly those words. Insisting Trump is responsible is saying by extension another president either wouldn’t oversee these *alleged deaths or otherwise couldn’t be responsible.

*CDC shows only six percent of Covid deaths are actually Covid.

 

[EMNofSeattle]

LOL AS opposed to Biden's plan of "welcome the folks from Wuhan" and "wear a mask" 85% of the people that were infected wore a masks. WE'd be at that 2 million if we followed Biden's plan.

The lockdown policies actually created more infections then otherwise would’ve happened

 

[CaughtInThe]

Everyone knew we would reach these numbers

“And again, when you have 15 people, and the 15 within a couple of days is going to be down to close to zero, that's a pretty good job we've done."
— Donald Trump

 

[EMNofSeattle]

“And again, when you have 15 people, and the 15 within a couple of days is going to be down to close to zero, that's a pretty good job we've done."
— Donald Trump

In January before any cases were in America. And besides no democrats took this at all seriously until March. I was in Europe until March 15 and no action was taken in any of the countries I was in except to limit night clubs to 200 people.

 

[CaughtInThe]

The lockdown policies actually created more infections then otherwise would’ve happened

yes, people with COVID not having access to people without COVID makes for more COVID infections.



we'll still dealing with the Trump logic.

 

[CaughtInThe]

In January before any cases were in America.

FEB 26
“And again, when you have 15 people, and the 15 within a couple of days is going to be down to close to zero, that's a pretty good job we've done."
— Donald Trump

 

[EMNofSeattle]

FEB 26
“And again, when you have 15 people, and the 15 within a couple of days is going to be down to close to zero, that's a pretty good job we've done."
— Donald Trump

Yeah, at there was how many cases in America then? Still no democrats had taken any action.

 

[AJG]

*CDC shows only six percent of Covid deaths are actually Covid.

I'm pretty sure that's been debunked numerous times. If you disagree feel free to post your source so we can debunk that claim again.

 

[EMNofSeattle]

yes, people with COVID not having access to people without COVID makes for more COVID infections.



we'll still dealing with the Trump logic.

No, it means people stay inside closer to other people and spread the disease more

 

[EMNofSeattle]

I'm pretty sure that's been debunked numerous times. If you disagree feel free to post your source so we can debunk that claim again.

It’s never been debunked. It’s the data. However you will not believe any data that says Marxism is not the answer so it’s pointless. You are in favor of killing all small businesses and empowering the Democratic Party as a totalitarian hegemon in America

 

[CaughtInThe]

Yeah, at there was how many cases in America then? Still no democrats had taken any action.

well, at least when COVID cases started skyrocking our President went on TV and told everyone to be safe and wear masks and stop this thing early so it wouldn't be so bad now.

that was very responsible and adult of him (especially when he set a good example and wore a mask when in public and didn't hold super spreader events. that was real leadership.

 

[CaughtInThe]

No, it means people stay inside closer to other people and spread the disease more

yeah, that definitely spreads it faster than concerts and football games and subways and full office buildings.

good logic dude. you need to be our COVID Czar.

 

[AJG]

It’s never been debunked. It’s the data. However you will not believe any data that says Marxism is not the answer so it’s pointless. You are in favor of killing all small businesses and empowering the Democratic Party as a totalitarian hegemon in America

No, it's a misinterpretation of the data, most likely deliberate at this point since its been debunked so many times. What the the data really says is that for covid related deaths, covid was the only cause on the death certificate 6% of the time. Which isn't surprising at all since we all know that most people that die from covid suffer pre-existing conditions. Of course those pre-existing conditions are listed on their death certificate as well.

 

[Metric Mouse]

This is not true. Not true at all. Just flat out wrong.
There were no serious estimates above 200,000 and most were thinking less than 100,000.

False. There were plenty of people calling out 500K- 1 million deaths. There's enough threads on here that prove that. Lots of estimates had higher ranges than that. Anyone who was paying attention knew this wasn't going to go away like magic after 60 thousand deaths.

 

[Metric Mouse]

“And again, when you have 15 people, and the 15 within a couple of days is going to be down to close to zero, that's a pretty good job we've done."
— Donald Trump

Right? And some people think there were no serious estimates above 100k. Trumpers be still lying.

 

[RabidAlpaca]

It doesn’t matter if you’ve said exactly those words. Insisting Trump is responsible is saying by extension another president either wouldn’t oversee these *alleged deaths or otherwise couldn’t be responsible.

*CDC shows only six percent of Covid deaths are actually Covid.

So you can't provide a quote of anyone saying that and you just lied through your teeth about the CDC. No, they didn't say that.

 

[EMNofSeattle]

yeah, that definitely spreads it faster than concerts and football games and subways and full office buildings.

good logic dude. you need to be our COVID Czar.

It probably does. California and New York are the only states that have stressed their health care systems and have the most deaths and hospitalizations. Whereas Florida is far lower.

my Governor reimposed lockdowns and cases have only skyrocketed, they’re far higher then when the restaurants were reopened. so would you rather be able to go to dinner and not get Covid or not be able to and getCovid? I don’t understand what benefit there is to the latter.

 

[EMNofSeattle]

So you can't provide a quote of anyone saying that and you just lied through your teeth about the CDC. No, they didn't say that.

Yes they did say that.

 

[Lursa]

It’s never been debunked. It’s the data. However you will not believe any data that says Marxism is not the answer so it’s pointless. You are in favor of killing all small businesses and empowering the Democratic Party as a totalitarian hegemon in America

You said it was CDC data...source it. The Democrats have been backing the CDC the entire time.

 

[Arby]

In January before any cases were in America. And besides no democrats took this at all seriously until March. I was in Europe until March 15 and no action was taken in any of the countries I was in except to limit night clubs to 200 people.

It was here in January. One of my friends got it before they knew what it was. He got it again (having all the same symptoms) a month ago when he went to the hospital for his chemo treatment for his cancer. He developed pneumonia (complications brought on by the China virus) while in the hospital and died just over a week ago.
Dems chastised Trump when he wanted to stop air travel from China, and no one knew the flights coming from Europe also had people who contracted the China virus. Those flights landing in our large cities with dense populations spread it like wildfire and their travels and visits (unknowing having the virus) was what spread it to our rural areas.

 

[RabidAlpaca]

Yes they did say that.

Show us.

 

[AJG]

Show us.

CDC Did Not 'Admit Only 6%' of Recorded Deaths from COVID-19 - FactCheck.org

The CDC hasn’t drastically reduced the number of deaths attributable to COVID-19, but that bogus claim has been circulating widely — boosted by President Trump.

www.factcheck.org

The president retweeted a link to that, too, and the phrase “only 6%” trended on Twitter.

Several media outlets flipped the percentage and reported that 94% of COVID-19 deaths had “underlying medical conditions.”

But the data on which all of this is based come from death certificates, which list any causes or conditions that contributed to a person’s death. In the case of COVID-19, the disease often causes other serious conditions, such as pneumonia or acute respiratory distress syndrome. Those two conditions are among the ailments with the highest counts in the CDC’s comorbidity chart. Some long-term conditions that increase the risk for severe COVID-19, such as diabetes or hypertension, were also listed.

The underlying cause of death, however, is the condition that started the chain of events that led to a person’s death. In 92% of all deaths that mention COVID-19, that disease is listed as the underlying cause of death, Jeff Lancashire, spokesman for the CDC’s National Center for Health Statistics, told FactCheck.org in an email.

According to the CDC, only 6% of covid deaths list covid as the only cause. However, for the other 94% the causes listed were often caused by covid in the first place, or were underlying health conditions that we know greatly increase the risk of death due to covid. I'm pretty sure I've pointed this out to @EMNofSeattle on multiple occasions, but he continues to ignore me or avoids debating this point.

 

[EMNofSeattle]

CDC Did Not 'Admit Only 6%' of Recorded Deaths from COVID-19 - FactCheck.org

The CDC hasn’t drastically reduced the number of deaths attributable to COVID-19, but that bogus claim has been circulating widely — boosted by President Trump.

www.factcheck.org

According to the CDC, only 6% of covid deaths list covid as the only cause. However, for the other 94% the causes listed were often caused by covid in the first place, or were underlying health conditions that we know greatly increase the risk of death due to covid. I'm pretty sure I've pointed this out to @EMNofSeattle on multiple occasions, but he continues to ignore me or avoids debating this point.

Thank you, you just proved what I said. The CDC has stated that only 6% of Covid fatalities are actually due to Covid. Someone who was on deaths door anyway and is pushed over by a cold, did not die of a cold.

 

[Lethargic Aptitude]

It could be more or less obviously, but if we keep averaging what we've averaged so far (even with a ton of people, but not all, being safe) it should be somewhere in that range. And what's a bit concerning is we're now doing more things together with November, December, January and February to go.

That's without a vaccine and mass production and distribution of course.

We are getting ready to pass 400k death shortly now.

 

[RabidAlpaca]

Thank you, you just proved what I said. The CDC has stated that only 6% of Covid fatalities are actually due to Covid. Someone who was on deaths door anyway and is pushed over by a cold, did not die of a cold.

Its more like someone has diabetes, gets covid and dies, so you're dishonestly trying to claim covid had nothing to do with it because he had diabetes. You lie through your teeth because you're dishonest and have an agenda. Your attempt to call covid a cold is pathetic.

You already admitted you wouldn't care if it were millions of Americans dying, no measures of any kind should be taken to stop the virus. Sociopathic.

CC: @AJG