Around 350,000 Americans will die from COVID in 12 months. Is that winning?

[screenwriter]

350,000 a bad thing? Wouldn't that simply depend on which side of the "world-has-too-many-people-already" debate you stand on?

Think about it - how can you call 350,000 an outrage when you feel they didn't need to be here in the first place?

I've also heard Covid referred to as the "Boomer Remover" - there's plenty of evidence that sufficient hatred exist toward that demographic that you'd expect an elation response with each one Covid "removes".

How many people who are proclaiming the inhumanity of it are really just pseudo outraged on one side of their mouth while grinning on the other?

 

[CaughtInThe]

It probably does.

Like I said, you need to be the United States COVID Czar. Just have things go back to normal and have people get together in giant numbers and our COVID issue will be less.

You have great logic.

 

[CaughtInThe]

We are getting ready to pass 400k death shortly now.

Yeah, I bumped this thread to show how off I was.

 

[noonereal]

False. There were plenty of people calling out 500K- 1 million deaths. There's enough threads on here that prove that. Lots of estimates had higher ranges than that. Anyone who was paying attention knew this wasn't going to go away like magic after 60 thousand deaths.

I am not talking about the alarmists here. I am talking about REAL estimate that we heard daily on news conferences. It was said we could lose 1 or even 2 million IF NOTHING WAS DONE and that was never restricted to a one year window, that was total loss. The earnest estimates NEVER topped 200,000.

You need to think back. There was no Covid in the country except for the massive outbreak in NY and a smattering in CA and OR. This is when most people thought this was completely overblown. Idiots, meantime we had mass graves being dug in NYC.

 

[VySky]

It could be more or less obviously, but if we keep averaging what we've averaged so far (even with a ton of people, but not all, being safe) it should be somewhere in that range. And what's a bit concerning is we're now doing more things together with November, December, January and February to go.

That's without a vaccine and mass production and distribution of course.

It was an act of war. China releasing the virus on the world

 

[CaughtInThe]

It was an act of war. China releasing the virus on the world

OH SHIT.

Are you saying our President downplayed an act of war??

 

[VySky]

OH SHIT.

Are you saying our President downplayed an act of war??

He lacked support

 

[CaughtInThe]

He lacked support

he's the worst president ever and he's a weak.

 

[Mashmont]

It could be more or less obviously, but if we keep averaging what we've averaged so far (even with a ton of people, but not all, being safe) it should be somewhere in that range. And what's a bit concerning is we're now doing more things together with November, December, January and February to go.

That's without a vaccine and mass production and distribution of course.

Yawn. Only about 140,000 more deaths in 2020 than 2018. There was no deadly pandemic.

 

[TU Curmudgeon]

You really think it'll take until February 23 to reach 400,000 deaths?

Please consult a vision restoration specialist. The date in the table is very clearly

16 JAN 21​

plus of minus one day.

However, that was yesterday's projection of the then current trends.

Here is today's projection based on the updated current trends

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[TU Curmudgeon]

This was an optimistic post as it tuned out.

We will be right around 500,000 at the one year mark, a number no one imagined would come to fruition.

Actually, the more accurate number is 550,000.

 

[TU Curmudgeon]

I have repeatedly said we'd lose at least that many people. Everyone knew we would reach these numbers; most thought it would be double that. We still might get close.

Not unless something REALLY disastrous happens.

 

[TU Curmudgeon]

This is not true. Not true at all. Just flat out wrong.
There were no serious estimates above 200,000 and most were thinking less than 100,000.

Three months ago, you were correct.

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Since that time people have been paying attention to the changed conditions and the 365 day projections have increased.

(More charts and graphs at Daily Statistical Summary of COVID-19)​

 

[EMNofSeattle]

You said it was CDC data...source it. The Democrats have been backing the CDC the entire time.

No they haven’t. Because as someone else linked, they determined only six percent of deaths are Covid deaths. And even using the inflated number it clearly shows the deadliest states were blue states that did hard lockdowns. If our idiot Governor wanted to save lives he would reopen bars and restaurants at full capacity like Florida.

 

[CaughtInThe]

No they haven’t. Because as someone else linked, they determined only six percent of deaths are Covid deaths. And even using the inflated number it clearly shows the deadliest states were blue states that did hard lockdowns. If our idiot Governor wanted to save lives he would reopen bars and restaurants at full capacity like Florida.

it's like you're stuck in May of 2020.

 

[TU Curmudgeon]

Yawn. Only about 140,000 more deaths in 2020 than 2018. There was no deadly pandemic.

You do know that a change in the causes of death means that the new cause of death is something to be taken seriously, don't you?

(More charts and graphs at Daily Statistical Summary of COVID-19)​

[NOTE - I have increased the range of the colour spectrum in the above table so that you and your students in the BS (Statistics) program at The University of Numerology have at least a 25% chance of understanding what is happening.]

PS - I do note that your "Expert Prediction" that the ABSOLUTE MAXIMUM number of American deaths from COVID-19 currently stands at around 2.61% of the actual number of American deaths from COVID-19.

 

[EMNofSeattle]

Three months ago, you were correct.

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Since that time people have been paying attention to the changed conditions and the 365 day projections have increased.

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(More charts and graphs at Daily Statistical Summary of COVID-19)​

Once they roll in all the 80 to 100 year olds and motorcycle crashes and gunshot wounds as Covid deaths I’m sure that number might be true. But as we know the number is way inflated

 

[TU Curmudgeon]

Once they roll in all the 80 to 100 year olds and motorcycle crashes and gunshot wounds as Covid deaths I’m sure that number might be true. But as we know the number is way inflated

Yes, I am quite sure that that is the reality that you want to believe in.

What I have some difficulty in grasping is how you can believe that every single other country in the world is lying about the impact of COVID-19 on their people so as to make it look like the lies

being spread by the Obama-Clinton, Deep State, wacko, loony, crazy, left-wing, liberal, socialist, pinko, commies

(who are a part of the huge, vast, enormous, secret, hidden, covert, conspiratorial plot to force a coup against DONALD JOHN TRUMP whom God guided Americans into choosing as THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA so that THE UNITED! STATES OF AMERICA! could fulfill its God Mandated role as the Saviour of Mankind and who want to impose Sherry Law

[with its mandatory same-sex, inter-racial, marriages and forced abortions of all white, male, pre-born, children AND compulsory autism causing vaccinations]​

on America so that all the Cheerleaders would have to wear Burke Hats and football would be banned because it uses pig skin)​

to make Mr. Trump "look bad" are true.

 

[Ethel2]

For those of you who think that the best course is to "protect" those at high risk (meaning house arrest) because the majority of people who get infected don't die from Covid, there is this:

A Texas trauma surgeon says it's rare that X-rays from any of her COVID-19 patients come back without dense scarring. Dr. Brittany Bankhead-Kendall tweeted, "Post-COVID lungs look worse than any type of terrible smoker's lung we've ever seen. And they collapse. And they clot off. And the shortness of breath lingers on... & on... & on."

"Everyone's just so worried about the mortality thing and that's terrible and it's awful," she told CBS Dallas-Fort Worth. "But man, for all the survivors and the people who have tested positive this is — it's going to be a problem."

Post-COVID lungs worse than the worst smokers' lungs, surgeon says

Texas trauma surgeon Dr. Brittany Bankhead-Kendall says that means even survivors could have long-term post-COVID problems.

www.cbsnews.com

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[Metric Mouse]

Please consult a vision restoration specialist. The date in the table is very clearly

16 JAN 21​

plus of minus one day.

However, that was yesterday's projection of the then current trends.

Here is today's projection based on the updated current trends

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Yes, but that only looking out a week. Even my hairdresser can guess how many deaths there will be a week from now based on current conditions; we'd like something a little more forward looking, even two or three months, with a reasonable amount of accuracy would be nice.

 

[Metric Mouse]

I am not talking about the alarmists here. I am talking about REAL estimate that we heard daily on news conferences. It was said we could lose 1 or even 2 million IF NOTHING WAS DONE and that was never restricted to a one year window, that was total loss. The earnest estimates NEVER topped 200,000.

You need to think back. There was no Covid in the country except for the massive outbreak in NY and a smattering in CA and OR. This is when most people thought this was completely overblown. Idiots, meantime we had mass graves being dug in NYC.

Everyone knew how bad this was going to be. We knew not everywhere would be as bad as New York, but we knew that if they could kill 30,000 people, it wasn't going to end after 60,000 people died. Or a hundred thousand. 1 million, was a high estimate, but everyone knew it would push 300k-500k by the middle of this year. And that was if a vaccine came online late last year, which is incredible that it did.

 

[Lursa]

No they haven’t. Because as someone else linked, they determined only six percent of deaths are Covid deaths.

Let's see your source. What are you waiting for? Several have asked for it.

Either you made it up or you didnt understand what you read. Or it came from a far-right site which means the same thing.

 

[noonereal]

everyone knew it would push 300k-500k

By the middle of this year, yes, by then it was nearing 200,000 already.

 

[Metric Mouse]

By the middle of this year, yes, by then it was nearing 200,000 already.

April or May, when lockdowns began. We saw how bad it was in Italy and Spain. We knew it wouldn't disappear like magic. There were of course a wide range of estimates, but everyone who studied this and those that listened to the people that studied this for a living knew it would be 500k or better. Most were higher because no one was sure a vaccine could be safely developed so quickly; thankfully they were wrong.

 

[noonereal]

studied this for a living knew it would be 500k or better.

then why was it kept secret at that point?