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Another Reason to Flee California

Jack Hays said:
It took a while, but 1984 is arriving in California in 2020.

California shows how unchecked progressives inflict progress

California, our national warning, shows how unchecked progressives inflict progress. They have placed on November ballots Proposition 16 to repeal the state constitution’s provision, enacted by referendum in 1996, forbidding racial preferences in public education, employment and contracting. Repeal, which would repudiate individual rights in favor of group entitlements, is part of a comprehensive California agenda to make everything about race, ethnicity and gender. Especially education, thereby supplanting education with its opposite. . . .

Where will this social sorting end? Proposition 16’s aim is to see that there is no end to the industry of improvising remedial measures to bring “social justice” to a fundamentally unjust state, and nation. The aim is to dilute, to the point of disappearance, inhibitions about government using group entitlements — racial, ethnic and gender — for social engineering. Most important, Proposition 16 greases the state’s slide into the engineering of young souls.

They are to be treated as raw material for public education suffused with the spirit of Oceania in George Orwell’s “1984”: “Who controls the past controls the future; who controls the present controls the past.” Progressives have a practical objective in teaching the essential squalor of the nation’s past. The New York Times’s “1619 Project” — it preaches that the nation’s real founding was the arrival of the first slaves; the nation is about racism — is being adopted by schools as a curriculum around the nation. If the past can be presented as radically wrong, radical remedies will seem proportionate. . . .
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22% of children in California are non-hispanic white. They are the minority here. Upon reaching the age of adulthood, they will still be treated as though they are part of a majority that can be discriminated against at will by university administrators. The Diversity Gospel of the DNC and GOP was never really about 'diversity' anyway, it was intended to remove whites from dominating academics and employment due to natural difference between races.
 
truthatallcost said:
22% of children in California are non-hispanic white. They are the minority here. Upon reaching the age of adulthood, they will still be treated as though they are part of a majority that can be discriminated against at will by university administrators. The Diversity Gospel of the DNC and GOP was never really about 'diversity' anyway, it was intended to remove whites from dominating academics and employment due to natural difference between races.
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How are white kids discriminated against here in colleges?
 
TheParser said:
But here's the irony.

Some liberals are also leaving and moving to other states (Nevada, Arizona, Texas, etc.) where they then proceed to vote for liberal politicians who will then implement policies that are similar to those policies that forced those liberals to leave California.

Man! What ingratitude to their new states!
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Democracy at work.
 
Vadinho said:
People leave states all the time, not sure why California seems to pre-occupy some folks. We have close to 40 million people.
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California is where a lot of people want to live but can’t afford it. It is very influential in the world as well, and has a lot of rich people

That makes people upset.

Heck Cali is one of two US states I would like to live, but housing is out of my budget,
 
Lord Tammerlain said:
California is where a lot of people want to live but can’t afford it. It is very influential in the world as well, and has a lot of rich people

That makes people upset.

Heck Cali is one of two US states I would like to live, but housing is out of my budget,
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It is expensive in the cities and coasts but pretty reasonable inland, Redding is very nice and affordable, so is Sacramento.
 
Vadinho said:
I find it amusing when I hear a former californian say they left because of politics. I know one who grew up in Orange County and told me he was sick of the socialism, bla bla bla. So he moved to Tyler, TX, home of Louie Gomert and smack dab in the middle of bible belt TX. He loves it there and I am happy for him. But he also cashed in his house for serious bucks and paid cash for a house with some left over. That kind of equity is a big reason people move away. If you can sell your track home for a million bucks, clear 500 grand or more and go buy an even nicer house for cash, thats pretty attractive. But no matter where you go, it aint California and the weather where you go is going to suck compared to here. People move because they can cash out but once you leave, you won't be able to afford coming back. So I say good riddance, leave in droves.
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We lived in Arkansas for three years, and Texas for ten.
We tried like Hell to assimilate into Southern society, even became Nazarene Christians...
Didn't matter, we were still "goddamn Yankees" no matter what we did or tried.
We made a ton of very dear friends down there but it never really became "home".
And the weather...Saudi Arabia with worse humidity.

My wife went to Walmart one summer day, came back out, got in the car and then dropped her keys on the floor of the van.
She tried to lean over and get them but the limitations of her wheelchair made it impossible.
Suddenly I get a phone call, and a barely audible voice croaks out "Help me, I'm at Walmart...burning up".
Paramedics got there and said her heatstroke was so bad she only had a few minutes left when they got there.
That was our first summer in Texas, wifey never ventured outside in the daytime during summer ever again...she was a prisoner in our house half the year round from then on. MS people don't deal with heat very well.

So we did the opposite, we finally moved back to Southern California.
 
Vadinho said:
It is expensive in the cities and coasts but pretty reasonable inland, Redding is very nice and affordable, so is Sacramento.
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Yeah but it is the coast and cities where I would want to live. Why live in a coastal state if you don’t live near the coast
 
Vadinho said:
People move because they can cash out but once you leave, you won't be able to afford coming back. So I say good riddance, leave in droves.
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When I first moved out to Southern California in late 1981, I lived in Marina Del Rey, Venice, Culver City, Santa Monica and West Los Angeles, everything was West of the I-405, everything right by the coast. I left in 1998, but we moved back in 2012.
All those places I lived were unaffordable by that point.
Take this house, for instance, on Abbott Kinney Blvd, the artsy fartsy district by the Venice Beach Boardwalk.

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When my friends and I moved in there in 1984, we were paying $750 a month, and it was valued at around 180 thousand.
It sold in 2014 for FOUR MILLION DOLLARS. Thanks to the dual zoning in the area, it's now a business.
Needless to say, there's no way we could afford to live in any of those towns again.

But we're six miles East of downtown in Whittier and we "stole" this 4 BR/3BA 2400 SF house for $475K in 2014.

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It is now worth almost twice what we paid for it, about $780K.
And the traffic isn't so terrible...out by the coast, that's where it gets really bad.
Interstate 405 has ALWAYS been a parking lot, since the day it was first built.
Traffic in our new area is about what you'd expect in any city.

But we will never leave...what would be the point?
I'm sixty-three and pretty much retired at this point.
Love the house, love Whittier, love our neighbors...
 
The 1984ish Proposition 16 was soundly defeated. Well done, California.

Experts discuss the failure of California's Proposition 16
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Proposition 16: California's rejection is a win for America
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Lord Tammerlain said:
Yeah but it is the coast and cities where I would want to live. Why live in a coastal state if you don’t live near the coast
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If we take the Metro light rail we can be in Santa Monica in about a half hour.
Good enough. We might not live right by the coast anymore but it's more than close enough.
Going by car takes a little longer and you have to deal with parking but still, not awful.

The only downside is, I used to go out to Malibu/Topanga a couple of times a week just for fun, harder to do that now.
I really miss Topanga, but it isn't the same since Hal Jepsen passed away.

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Checkerboard Strangler said:
If we take the Metro light rail we can be in Santa Monica in about a half hour.
Good enough. We might not live right by the coast anymore but it's more than close enough.
Going by car takes a little longer and you have to deal with parking but still, not awful.

The only downside is, I used to go out to Malibu/Topanga a couple of times a week just for fun, harder to do that now.
I really miss Topanga, but it isn't the same since Hal Jepsen passed away.

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I would not mind being 60 miles away, an easy day trip rather than driving for three to four hours each way depending on traffic
 
Jack Hays said:
Never lived there.
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Then you should consider the fact that you've never lived here before spouting off nonsense as if you're some kind of expert commentator. Nobody in California cares what someone based in Virginia thinks.
You Southern folks take particular umbrage at "Yankees comin down heah and stickin' their snouts everywhere tellin' us how to run our lives."
Funny how almost every Johnny Reb on this board is obsessed with California.
I think they call that "sticking your your snout everywhere and telling us how to run our lives."
Come on out, enjoy the natural beauty, enjoy Disneyland, go see the sights of Hollywood, take the Universal Studios Tour, go snooping around Beverly Hills and Castaic and see all the movie star homes, take in some of the night life...
And then get your ass back home and quit meddling in our affairs.

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Checkerboard Strangler said:
When I first moved out to Southern California in late 1981, I lived in Marina Del Rey, Venice, Culver City, Santa Monica and West Los Angeles, everything was West of the I-405, everything right by the coast. I left in 1998, but we moved back in 2012.
All those places I lived were unaffordable by that point.
Take this house, for instance, on Abbott Kinney Blvd, the artsy fartsy district by the Venice Beach Boardwalk.

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When my friends and I moved in there in 1984, we were paying $750 a month, and it was valued at around 180 thousand.
It sold in 2014 for FOUR MILLION DOLLARS. Thanks to the dual zoning in the area, it's now a business.
Needless to say, there's no way we could afford to live in any of those towns again.

But we're six miles East of downtown in Whittier and we "stole" this 4 BR/3BA 2400 SF house for $475K in 2014.

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It is now worth almost twice what we paid for it, about $780K.
And the traffic isn't so terrible...out by the coast, that's where it gets really bad.
Interstate 405 has ALWAYS been a parking lot, since the day it was first built.
Traffic in our new area is about what you'd expect in any city.

But we will never leave...what would be the point?
I'm sixty-three and pretty much retired at this point.
Love the house, love Whittier, love our neighbors...
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My best friend lives in Whittier up above the college on the hill, great area. We are headed to Palm Springs for the week this Friday.
 
Vadinho said:
People leave states all the time, not sure why California seems to pre-occupy some folks. We have close to 40 million people.
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It has gotten worse over the years.
Back in the 1970's when I lived in South Minneapolis, Twin Citians had a beef with California because so many
beautiful Minnesota women made their way out to L.A. to try to hit fame and fortune in the movie business.
And as most know, that is a very cruel business to try one's hand in, and so a good many of those young prospects
were doomed to fail because, beauty or not, one has to have TALENT to go with it.
And most people who make the attempt, tent to overestimate their talent.

But that isn't California's fault.
Nobody held a gun to anyone's head forcing them to come out here.
But it was just a low level thing...these days it is outright hostility.
These days, states like Texas commit what might as well be considered an Act of War against California.
 
Vadinho said:
My best friend lives in Whittier up above the college on the hill, great area. We are headed to Palm Springs for the week this Friday.
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Yeesh, at least you're not going to be there during the summer blast furnace.
I wish this pandemic wasn't raging, or I'd invite you and your friend to stop by for lunch in Whittier, my treat.
 
Vadinho said:
I live nearby, its actually not bad at all. The weather has changed enough so that its not always foggy.
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I know, I just like to joke about Turlock a lot.
Lompoc's actually pretty nice.
Turlock and Lodi? Not so much! :poop:
 
Prop 15 failed, too. A tax increase. I still can't believe Californians were deluded enough to vote yes on that gas tax fiasco a while ago. "To improve roads" Ha, lying sacks of crap.
The state government is a money pit, they'll suck every cent they can out of people's wallets.
For stupid, pointless and greedy reasons.
 
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