Another Reason to Flee California

[Jack Hays]

It took a while, but 1984 is arriving in California in 2020.

California shows how unchecked progressives inflict progress

• By George F. Will

California, our national warning, shows how unchecked progressives inflict progress. They have placed on November ballots Proposition 16 to repeal the state constitution’s provision, enacted by referendum in 1996, forbidding racial preferences in public education, employment and contracting. Repeal, which would repudiate individual rights in favor of group entitlements, is part of a comprehensive California agenda to make everything about race, ethnicity and gender. Especially education, thereby supplanting education with its opposite. . . .

Where will this social sorting end? Proposition 16’s aim is to see that there is no end to the industry of improvising remedial measures to bring “social justice” to a fundamentally unjust state, and nation. The aim is to dilute, to the point of disappearance, inhibitions about government using group entitlements — racial, ethnic and gender — for social engineering. Most important, Proposition 16 greases the state’s slide into the engineering of young souls.

They are to be treated as raw material for public education suffused with the spirit of Oceania in George Orwell’s “1984”: “Who controls the past controls the future; who controls the present controls the past.” Progressives have a practical objective in teaching the essential squalor of the nation’s past. The New York Times’s “1619 Project” — it preaches that the nation’s real founding was the arrival of the first slaves; the nation is about racism — is being adopted by schools as a curriculum around the nation. If the past can be presented as radically wrong, radical remedies will seem proportionate. . . .

 

[Grim17]

It took a while, but 1984 is arriving in California in 2020.

California shows how unchecked progressives inflict progress

• By George F. Will

California, our national warning, shows how unchecked progressives inflict progress. They have placed on November ballots Proposition 16 to repeal the state constitution’s provision, enacted by referendum in 1996, forbidding racial preferences in public education, employment and contracting. Repeal, which would repudiate individual rights in favor of group entitlements, is part of a comprehensive California agenda to make everything about race, ethnicity and gender. Especially education, thereby supplanting education with its opposite. . . .

Where will this social sorting end? Proposition 16’s aim is to see that there is no end to the industry of improvising remedial measures to bring “social justice” to a fundamentally unjust state, and nation. The aim is to dilute, to the point of disappearance, inhibitions about government using group entitlements — racial, ethnic and gender — for social engineering. Most important, Proposition 16 greases the state’s slide into the engineering of young souls.

They are to be treated as raw material for public education suffused with the spirit of Oceania in George Orwell’s “1984”: “Who controls the past controls the future; who controls the present controls the past.” Progressives have a practical objective in teaching the essential squalor of the nation’s past. The New York Times’s “1619 Project” — it preaches that the nation’s real founding was the arrival of the first slaves; the nation is about racism — is being adopted by schools as a curriculum around the nation. If the past can be presented as radically wrong, radical remedies will seem proportionate. . . .

This thread goes very well with the one I created last night:

It's Official. Daily Wire has had enough of California. Moving Operations to Tennessee

 

[lwf]

It took a while, but 1984 is arriving in California in 2020.

California shows how unchecked progressives inflict progress

• By George F. Will

California, our national warning, shows how unchecked progressives inflict progress. They have placed on November ballots Proposition 16 to repeal the state constitution’s provision, enacted by referendum in 1996, forbidding racial preferences in public education, employment and contracting. Repeal, which would repudiate individual rights in favor of group entitlements, is part of a comprehensive California agenda to make everything about race, ethnicity and gender. Especially education, thereby supplanting education with its opposite. . . .

Where will this social sorting end? Proposition 16’s aim is to see that there is no end to the industry of improvising remedial measures to bring “social justice” to a fundamentally unjust state, and nation. The aim is to dilute, to the point of disappearance, inhibitions about government using group entitlements — racial, ethnic and gender — for social engineering. Most important, Proposition 16 greases the state’s slide into the engineering of young souls.

They are to be treated as raw material for public education suffused with the spirit of Oceania in George Orwell’s “1984”: “Who controls the past controls the future; who controls the present controls the past.” Progressives have a practical objective in teaching the essential squalor of the nation’s past. The New York Times’s “1619 Project” — it preaches that the nation’s real founding was the arrival of the first slaves; the nation is about racism — is being adopted by schools as a curriculum around the nation. If the past can be presented as radically wrong, radical remedies will seem proportionate. . . .

This is the opposite of 1984. Before, companies were barred from participating in Affirmative Action programs. The repeal of Proposition 209 would give companies the option to do so. This is more freedom for businesses, not less.

 

[Jack Hays]

This is the opposite of 1984. Before, companies were barred from participating in Affirmative Action programs. The repeal of Proposition 209 would give companies the option to do so. This is more freedom for businesses, not less.

Your post is the opposite of true. Very 1984.

 

[lwf]

Your post is the opposite of true. Very 1984.

1984 is about the reduction of freedoms, not the expansion of them.

 

[Jack Hays]

1984 is about the reduction of freedoms, not the expansion of them.

". . . California already requires that by the end of 2021 some publicly traded companies based in the state must have at least three women on their boards of directors, up from the 2018 requirement of one woman. Last month, the legislature mandated that by the end of 2021 at least one director shall be Black, Latino, Hispanic, Asian, Pacific Islander, Native American, Native Hawaiian or Alaskan Native, or identify as LGBTQ. And by 2022, boards with nine or more directors must include at least three government-favored minorities. . . .

Coming in the context of such measures, Proposition 16’s proposed repeal of the ban on racial preferences should be understood as repealing all scruples about the government-approved groupthink that Orwell warned against in “1984.” In this enterprise, California progressives have company. . . . "

 

[What if...?]

It took a while, but 1984 is arriving in California in 2020.

California shows how unchecked progressives inflict progress

• By George F. Will

California, our national warning, shows how unchecked progressives inflict progress. They have placed on November ballots Proposition 16 to repeal the state constitution’s provision, enacted by referendum in 1996, forbidding racial preferences in public education, employment and contracting. Repeal, which would repudiate individual rights in favor of group entitlements, is part of a comprehensive California agenda to make everything about race, ethnicity and gender. Especially education, thereby supplanting education with its opposite. . . .

Where will this social sorting end? Proposition 16’s aim is to see that there is no end to the industry of improvising remedial measures to bring “social justice” to a fundamentally unjust state, and nation. The aim is to dilute, to the point of disappearance, inhibitions about government using group entitlements — racial, ethnic and gender — for social engineering. Most important, Proposition 16 greases the state’s slide into the engineering of young souls.

They are to be treated as raw material for public education suffused with the spirit of Oceania in George Orwell’s “1984”: “Who controls the past controls the future; who controls the present controls the past.” Progressives have a practical objective in teaching the essential squalor of the nation’s past. The New York Times’s “1619 Project” — it preaches that the nation’s real founding was the arrival of the first slaves; the nation is about racism — is being adopted by schools as a curriculum around the nation. If the past can be presented as radically wrong, radical remedies will seem proportionate. . . .

It would carry more weight if so many didn't live in a world only found in conservative media. They have a recent history distinct from the rest of the world.

There's another Orwell quote from 1984:

“The party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command.”

Which trump has actually paraphrased with a straight face.

 

[lwf]

". . . California already requires that by the end of 2021 some publicly traded companies based in the state must have at least three women on their boards of directors, up from the 2018 requirement of one woman. Last month, the legislature mandated that by the end of 2021 at least one director shall be Black, Latino, Hispanic, Asian, Pacific Islander, Native American, Native Hawaiian or Alaskan Native, or identify as LGBTQ. And by 2022, boards with nine or more directors must include at least three government-favored minorities. . . .

Coming in the context of such measures, Proposition 16’s proposed repeal of the ban on racial preferences should be understood as repealing all scruples about the government-approved groupthink that Orwell warned against in “1984.” In this enterprise, California progressives have company. . . . "

This is intended to break the glass ceiling, which in spite of almost 50 years of equal rights is still a problem in the male dominated corporate world. Affirmative Action is a force for integration of minorities into industries dominated by a majority. Integration is the only way to reduce sexism and racism.

I do agree that making it a legal mandate is problematic. It should be enforced by rewarding companies that diversify, not legislating punishment for companies who don't.

 

[Jack Hays]

It would carry more weight if so many didn't live in a world only found in conservative media. They have a recent history distinct from the rest of the world.

There's another Orwell quote from 1984:

“The party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command.”

Which trump has actually paraphrased with a straight face.

So what? No one has been more critical of Trump than George Will.

 

[Jack Hays]

This is intended to break the glass ceiling, which in spite of almost 50 years of equal rights is still a problem in the male dominated corporate world. Affirmative Action is a force for integration of minorities into industries dominated by a majority. Integration is the only way to reduce sexism and racism.

I do agree that making it a legal mandate is problematic. It should be enforced by rewarding companies that diversify, not legislating punishment for companies who don't.

Welcome to 1984.

 

[What if...?]

So what? No one has been more critical of Trump than George Will.

And I generally like Will.

But nobody is right all the time. It's just how it works.

Don't like it in California? Don't let the screen door hit you on the way out. You won't be missed.

 

[Jack Hays]

And I generally like Will.

But nobody is right all the time. It's just how it works.

Don't like it in California? Don't let the screen door hit you on the way out. You won't be missed.

Never lived there.

 

[TheParser]

I have lived in the (tarnished) Golden State all my 83 years.

The change (re affirmative action) is inevitable.

Since the 1970s, when people from Mexico & Central America started coming here in order to escape bad economic conditions and horrific political violence, the state has been changing from red to blue.

Hispanic Americans are now a powerful force in local & state politics. They will only grow stronger in the coming decades.

That proposition will, of course, pass. It will be approved by Hispanic American voters and other "minorities" + some Euro Americans, too, such as university professors who are calling for a "YES" vote on this measure.

 

[Jack Hays]

I have lived in the (tarnished) Golden State all my 83 years.

The change (re affirmative action) is inevitable.

Since the 1970s, when people from Mexico & Central America started coming here in order to escape bad economic conditions and horrific political violence, the state has been changing from red to blue.

Hispanic Americans are now a powerful force in local & state politics. They will only grow stronger in the coming decades.

That proposition will, of course, pass. It will be approved by Hispanic American voters and other "minorities" + some Euro Americans, too, such as university professors who are calling for a "YES" vote on this measure.

Hence the thread title.

 

[TheParser]

Hence the thread title.

But here's the irony.

Some liberals are also leaving and moving to other states (Nevada, Arizona, Texas, etc.) where they then proceed to vote for liberal politicians who will then implement policies that are similar to those policies that forced those liberals to leave California.

Man! What ingratitude to their new states!

 

[skeptic llc]

And I generally like Will.

But nobody is right all the time. It's just how it works.

Don't like it in California? Don't let the screen door hit you on the way out. You won't be missed.

Don't like it in CA. Despite being born here and a 50 year CA veteran. Won't let the screen door hit me on the way out. Bye. PS -- I used to pay lotsa taxes to CA, I guess the state doesn't care about that either.

 

[Vadinho]

I hope people leave our state by the millions. Leave people leave. I could care less.

 

[Checkerboard Strangler]

Never lived there.

But you're anxious about it.
Wow.

 

[Jack Hays]

But you're anxious about it.
Wow.

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I take my entertainment where I find it.

 

[Checkerboard Strangler]

I take my entertainment where I find it.

Yeah and that's all anything really ever is with you.

 

[Checkerboard Strangler]

I hope people leave our state by the millions. Leave people leave. I could care less.

Less traffic, cleaner air and water, less lines, sounds like a win win to me.
I think ten million fewer people would be just about perfect.

 

[Vadinho]

But here's the irony.

Some liberals are also leaving and moving to other states (Nevada, Arizona, Texas, etc.) where they then proceed to vote for liberal politicians who will then implement policies that are similar to those policies that forced those liberals to leave California.

Man! What ingratitude to their new states!

I find it amusing when I hear a former californian say they left because of politics. I know one who grew up in Orange County and told me he was sick of the socialism, bla bla bla. So he moved to Tyler, TX, home of Louie Gomert and smack dab in the middle of bible belt TX. He loves it there and I am happy for him. But he also cashed in his house for serious bucks and paid cash for a house with some left over. That kind of equity is a big reason people move away. If you can sell your track home for a million bucks, clear 500 grand or more and go buy an even nicer house for cash, thats pretty attractive. But no matter where you go, it aint California and the weather where you go is going to suck compared to here. People move because they can cash out but once you leave, you won't be able to afford coming back. So I say good riddance, leave in droves.

 

[joko104]

It would carry more weight if so many didn't live in a world only found in conservative media. They have a recent history distinct from the rest of the world.

There's another Orwell quote from 1984:

“The party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command.”

Which trump has actually paraphrased with a straight face.

You got to be joking, right? Joe Biden outright said that "we (Democrats) choose about truth, not facts."

 

[skeptic llc]

But here's the irony.

Some liberals are also leaving and moving to other states (Nevada, Arizona, Texas, etc.) where they then proceed to vote for liberal politicians who will then implement policies that are similar to those policies that forced those liberals to leave California.

Man! What ingratitude to their new states!

Actually, one can be more nuanced than to just accept or reject an entire partisan platform. For example, one could support some but not all liberal policies, and some but not all conservative policies. Imagine that.

 

[Jack Hays]

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