Americans - would you support single-payer?

[Allan]

Just a temperature check on how Americans feel about single-payer universal health care.

 

[Mr Person]

We need to raise taxes across almost the whole board and pay for it. I don't give a shit about labels. It's more financially efficient. Complaints about single payer systems are necessarily cherry-picked.

 

[EdwinWillers]

No.

I would support however getting the federal government out of our healthcare entirely. Nothing is so inefficient or wastefully expensive as a federal "program."

Moreover, I don't believe the general welfare clause - butchered as it's been over the decades - supports the federal government running, or even regulating the nation's healthcare system.

 

[upsideguy]

No.

I would support however getting the federal government out of our healthcare entirely. Nothing is so inefficient or wastefully expensive as a federal "program."

Moreover, I don't believe the general welfare clause - butchered as it's been over the decades - supports the federal government running, or even regulating the nation's healthcare system.

Except, when it comes to healthcare, the evidence tells us the opposite is true. Universally, throughout the world, countries with a single payer system spend less on healthcare with superior outcomes to that of the United States. Our entry into a national healthcare system, the PPACA, has also shown to be highly effective, increasing the number of insured while slowing increases in healthcare costs to consumers.

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This is one area where private enterprise has been shown to be an unnecessary, if not exploitive, middle man.

Our Medicare system works quite well. It is single payer, with an exceptionally high customer satisfaction rating, higher than most insurance companies. I must say I joined the Medicare system a year ago. I appreciate the piece of mind and easy access to the healthcare system. It has worked very well for me.

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Its time to go all in on single payer.

 

[holbritter]

Yes

 

[Superfly]

Of course I would.

 

[multivita-man]

Just a temperature check on how Americans feel about single-payer universal health care.

Either that or we do what Obama tried to do and mandate that everyone carries insurance and require that insurance companies issue it at a 'market price'. Only in this scheme, the penalty for not carrying coverage is very expensive so that it's a strong disincentive to not carry. Prices should be regulated/capped.

 

[Winston]

Americans are smarter than our current insurance mafia system

 

[Emily L]

I'm in favor if it.

 

[rahl]

No.

I would support however getting the federal government out of our healthcare entirely. Nothing is so inefficient or wastefully expensive as a federal "program."

Single payer systems are cheaper and more efficient than the US system. Every other first world nation which has it, demonstrates this.

Moreover, I don't believe the general welfare clause -butchered as it's been over the decades - supports the federal government running, or even regulating the nation's healthcare system.

We already do. Medicare/medicaid

 

[Mach]

I would support however getting the federal government out of our healthcare entirely. Nothing is so inefficient or wastefully expensive as a federal "program."

Millions...tens of millions of people would get sick and die, and visit ERs and end up costing more than preventative health care, all that suffering and loss of life.
You really support all that? Or would government still fund it, just not control it?

And what about regulating the health care industry, you want it unregulated too?

These seems insane.

Federal government is no more or less wasteful than private control in principle it's just a system that humans can either design well/efficiently, or not.
If you think the private health care and insurance industry don't jack up prices/procedures to earn higher profits for unnecessary testing and procedures, you are fooling yourself.

 

[Helix]

Yes.

 

[Captain Adverse]

I don't have an opinion one way or the other. I've rarely had need of medical assistance, mostly (IMO) because I don't have a lot of "vices" that lead to poor health.

1. I don't smoke. (Nothing, so don't ask if that includes "preferred drugs").

2. I don't drink alcohol of any kind. To be honest it all tastes terrible, and if it tastes bad I figured it's not that good for you.

3. I avoid foods that are full of processed sugars (no candy, no confections, and no soft drinks).

4. I don't do any "recreational drugs."

I have annual physicals at the V.A. and pass them all with flying colors. That is literally the only "medical visits" I've had in decades.

I am not sure I support massive government programs of most kinds, but especially those that give people a false sense of security allowing them to think they can "party on," and someone will come take care of them.

 

[Mach]

Just a temperature check on how Americans feel about single-payer universal health care.

I'd consider it.

 

[Old 'N Chill]

YES, absolutely! I am one of those people who very rarely even go to a doctor and am on no prescription medications, but I see the value of having Universal Healthcare in the USA and I was glad when President Obama promoted the Affordable Care Act.

 

[washunut]

Just a temperature check on how Americans feel about single-payer universal health care.

Would it cover non-Americas who get sick in America? Would there be an opportunity for supplemental insurance as Medicare does?

 

[weaver2]

Yes !!! Yes!!!

 

[Grand Mal]

No.

I would support however getting the federal government out of our healthcare entirely. Nothing is so inefficient or wastefully expensive as a federal "program."

Moreover, I don't believe the general welfare clause - butchered as it's been over the decades - supports the federal government running, or even regulating the nation's healthcare system.

The USA ranks 59th for life expectancy, between Algeria and Panama.
Is that alright with you?

 

[tshade]

Just a temperature check on how Americans feel about single-payer universal health care.

of course---at least the concept of it

Why not just lower the Medicare age over the next 50 years????

 

[washunut]

The USA ranks 59th for life expectancy, between Algeria and Panama.
Is that alright with you?

Are you saying our method of paying for health care is the primary reason for that?

 

[cpwill]

Just a temperature check on how Americans feel about single-payer universal health care.

This forum is maybe not the best of gauges.

 

[Grand Mal]

Are you saying our method of paying for health care is the primary reason for that?

I'm saying that when health care is expensive it's sometimes not an option, or it's opted against.
Do you think the cost of health care isn't a factor in average longevity?

 

[trouble13]

It depends on who the single payer is that is going to pay for everyone's healthcare

 

[cpwill]

The USA ranks 59th for life expectancy, between Algeria and Panama.
Is that alright with you?

those numbers are not apples to apples. The U.S., for example, counts premie deaths.

Also, having been on it, I can attest that our government-run Healthcare is qualitatively worse than our private system.

 

[anatta]

universal insurance coding. not universal single pay