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Americans - would you support single-payer?

Would you support a single payer system in the US?


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Is the Canadian Broacasting Company a US conservative think tank?
 
I voted OTHER.

If it improved medical care in the United States, for all, without damaging the lives of caregivers.
 
Did you miss where I wrote that those who are currently on Medicare should not have their taxes raised to front the costs for a one payer system?
Half of Congress is eligible for Medicare and earns multi-6 figure salaries a year plus other income streams.

Lower income individuals with only social security income wouldn’t see any sort of major income tax changes.
 
Will single payer ever come to pass?

Yes, it is inevitable. Government failure leads to more government, not less. My guess is 25 years. It will be an abject failure right from the very beginning.


Obama could have gotten UHC passed during his first two years, but Democrats wouldn't vote for it. Democrats don't even vote for it at the state level, otherwise states like California would have it by now.
 
I never paid them. My point was that public entities also charge ‘user fees’ for their services.
I don’t know for sure, but wouldn’t emergency ambulance service be covered under Universal Healthcare?
 

I am still working. Guess I just make too much money. My monthly premium is $243. But that is way cheaper than blue cross I used to pay and Medicare has much better coverage.
 
I am still working. Guess I just make too much money. My monthly premium is $243. But that is way cheaper than blue cross I used to pay and Medicare has much better coverage.

If you are working, I’ll bet that is only 75-80% of the premium with the employer paying the rest.

WW
 
If you are working, I’ll bet that is only 75-80% of the premium with the employer paying the rest.

WW

Oh absolutely not. Medicare doesn't work that way. They take it out of my social security payment.

Americans who get their health insurance through work never realize what health insurance cost. I think it is just a sneaky way they use to keep people from bitching about health care in america.
 
I voted OTHER.

If it improved medical care in the United States, for all, without damaging the lives of caregivers.

You mean without lowering the salaries of the people who work in hospitals, correct?
 

Crikey, how long ago was this?
Our experience in Memphis was in 2000.
 
You mean without lowering the salaries of the people who work in hospitals, correct?

Exactly

No reason to cut the providers compensation.

Cut out the administrative cost and profits from the insurance companies and others who are not directly involved in providing health care Seems to me that in itself would reduce cost. Not having all the administrative cost for all the different insurance companies would reduce cost even more.
 
You mean without lowering the salaries of the people who work in hospitals, correct?
Yes, without lowering the salary or hourly wage of any non licensed medical care employee.

I would understand the need to consider compensation for those in the industry who have attained their positions after extensive schooling and extensive licensed training.
 
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I don’t know for sure, but wouldn’t emergency ambulance service be covered under Universal Healthcare?
It is in my province.
 

You mean licensed, not non-licensed, correct?
 
Medicare and Social Security are running out of money - the amount brought in by taxes is forcing them to draw down on other assets; which are projects to run out within 10-12 years.
 
I edited this quote to reflect what LouC meant:


So you would support reducing the salaries of all unlicensed healthcare workers, in order to make single payer more affordable?
 
I am still working. Guess I just make too much money. My monthly premium is $243. But that is way cheaper than blue cross I used to pay and Medicare has much better coverage.

If you are working, I’ll bet that is only 75-80% of the premium with the employer paying the rest.

WW

Oh absolutely not. Medicare doesn't work that way. They take it out of my social security payment.

I didn't say that Medicare works that way. You talked about your employer premium.

If I were to retire today my Medicare premium would be $244.60 per month. That doesn't include Medigap insurance to fill in the week spots. And that per individual, my wife as to pay the same amount for her coverage as it is not two person spousal coverage.

Americans who get their health insurance through work never realize what health insurance cost. I think it is just a sneaky way they use to keep people from bitching about health care in america.

I used to be more prevalent under defined benefits plans that some aspect of medical coverage was included in retirement. But since the demise of pensions and the rise of 401K type retirements being on the individual, non-Medicare medical in retirement is a thing of the past.


WW
 
Half of Congress is eligible for Medicare and earns multi-6 figure salaries a year plus other income streams.

Lower income individuals with only social security income wouldn’t see any sort of major income tax changes.

Based on what, exactly?
 
Medicare and Social Security are running out of money - the amount brought in by taxes is forcing them to draw down on other assets; which are projects to run out within 10-12 years.

Simple fix. Just raise taxes. Republicans never will. They want them bankrupt where they will be easier to get rid of.

I believe the wealthy in this country have had a nice run over the last 50 years. Every since Reagan and trickle down. The other 90% of Americans have suffered for it. Time to pay the piper.

 
My employee’s Memphis experience was around 2005.

My experience with the Birmingham VA was early 2000s. Don’t remember exact year.

According to Medicare, I guess Birmingham cleaned up their act a bit.


Birmingham , AL — The Birmingham VA Health Care System received a 4-star patient experience rating in Medicare’s latest Hospital Consumer Assessment of Healthcare Providers and Systems (HCAHPS) patient survey report.
 
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