A Thread to Call Out Fox News Network

[Jryan]

Looking through all of the threads I only see republican's complaining about liberal bias in the news. Why is it that they are okay with sitting in front of their propaganda machine(FNC) who tells them that the other networks are bias. I mean, if you know a media is bias, why are you going to take anything and I mean ANYTHING it has to say as truth? Now, I will admit, MSNBC IS just as bias, but their are a lot of other news networks that are SO far from bias that it is silly. Now, I should clarify here; when I say bias, I mean intentional bias. If a liberal writes an essay on a subject, obviously some of his views are going to be reflected, even if his intentions, which they most certainly are, are intended to just report facts. Reporting a bias unintionally (sic) is just how the human mind works.
For any of you who get your news from Fox News, I link you to this article:
Why Fox News Is An Industry Joke - TurnOffYourTV.com

When presenting hard news stories, the Fox News Channel always includes the network spin. The network uses a number of techniques to mutate reality. Here are just a few:

Method #1: Non-reporting. A news story about rising gas prices blames regional environmental clean air standards. According to Fox News, "some officials say environmental regulations are driving up prices by forcing fuel refiners to develop different blends." This is only partially true. The reporter does not mention other factors including the lack of refining capacity in the United States; OPEC holding back production; the simple economics of high-demand in the U.S.; poor fuel efficiency of U.S. vehicles; and the fact that even with price increases, the U.S. STILL has the lowest cost per gallon of gas in the world. The Fox News spin is that the only reason gas prices rise is because of those liberal environmental laws. (June 3, 2004)
Method #2: Conceptual Name Calling. A news story about global warming is titled "Junk Science." The first line of the newscast says: "The global warming treaty known as the Kyoto protocol is politically dead in the U.S. But the treaty's left-leaning environmental extremist supporters haven't given up their fantasy of creating a socialist global economy through controls on energy use." This report includes no scientific evidence of global warming and ends with the comment that "the junk science-fueled Kyoto protocol would be an economic suicide capsule." (June 4, 2004)
Method #3: Political Name Calling. The Fox News Channel makes a sharp distinction between Democrat and Republican and liberal and conservative. Network news always identifies political party affiliations. For example, a report on Congressional hearings involving Bush administration Attorney General John Ashcroft said Democrats "accuse John Ashcroft" and "Democrats kept focus on a series of memos" which lead to a "frustrated Attorney General" who did his best to stay on topic. The newscast portrayed the Democrats attacking Ashcroft who was only trying to protect the U.S. from terrorism. (June 9, 2004)
Method #4: Warped Reporter Analysis. In a report about Democratic Presidential nominee John Kerry, reporter Carl Cameron's voice-over identified the public's "lagging perception in the polls that he can protect the country from bioterrorism" and the "Massachusetts Democrat as usual slammed the President for not doing enough to protect the homeland." Cameron then goes on to explain how George Bush increased the defense budget. The report then shows a poll map of states the candidates will focus on, with it clearly showing that Bush already won the election (see image to the right). Cameron ends the report with Vice President Dick Cheney attacking Kerry. Cameron says "Cheney slams Kerry" and "Cheney focused on Kerry's various positions on the Patriot Act." The report then shows a video of Cheney saying that Kerry takes "both sides" of important issues. (June 3, 2004)
Method #5: Skewed Statistics. Fox News' anchor Brit Hume said in a report that "Two hundred seventy-seven U.S. soldiers have now died in Iraq, which means that statistically speaking U.S. soldiers have less of a chance of dying from all causes in Iraq than citizens have of being murdered in California, which is roughly the same geographical size. The most recent statistics indicate California has more than 2300 homicides each year, which means about 6.6 murders each day. Meanwhile, U.S. troops have been in Iraq for 160 days, which means they're incurring about 1.7 deaths, including illness and accidents each day." Not only is this report silly and illogical, but does not take into account the populations of California versus U.S. soldiers in Iraq. On a per capita basis, these statistics make no sense. (August 27, 2003)
Method #6: Unflattering Images. When choosing pictures and video, Fox News chooses ones to serve its needs. For example, to the right are images the network used to identify political differences between John Kerry and George Bush. Clearly, the network choose a pretty bad picture of Kerry. Video clips also show lowlights of Democrats and highlights of Republicans.

If you can look at this post and say, "Fox News is not bias and they report the real undistorted (sic) view of the world", then I don't know what to say to you.

So, what do you think? Is Fox News a reliable news source? Or is Fox News the industry joke and the network should be banned for even attempting a broadcast in the US?

 

[specklebang]

FOX is a very successful entertainment business. They provide what their viewers want so they get viewed.

I'm not aware of any accurate media sources. NPR is pretty good but my overall personal experience with the media is that they never get their facts straight and they don't care about that. During my own personal "15 minutes", both pro and con, they never quoted me accurately although it would have been easy enough to do so. They just don't pay attention and I suppose they don't need to.

At least FOX doesn't hide from what they are. They love the Repugnicants and despise the Democraps.

 

[Captain America]

Well if FAUXNews doesn'r hide from what they are why all the "fair and balanced" claims?

 

[Neal N. Bloeme]

A socialist starts a thread about how bad Fox news is. Al Queda agrees with you. Isn't that cute.

 

[specklebang]

It's a slogan. What should they say? FOX news, where we unbalance the news?

Well if FAUXNews doesn'r hide from what they are why all the "fair and balanced" claims?

 

[beerftw]

Looking through all of the threads I only see republican's complaining about liberal bias in the news. Why is it that they are okay with sitting in front of their propaganda machine(FNC) who tells them that the other networks are bias. I mean, if you know a media is bias, why are you going to take anything and I mean ANYTHING it has to say as truth? Now, I will admit, MSNBC IS just as bias, but their are a lot of other news networks that are SO far from bias that it is silly. Now, I should clarify here; when I say bias, I mean intentional bias. If a liberal writes an essay on a subject, obviously some of his views are going to be reflected, even if his intentions, which they most certainly are, are intended to just report facts. Reporting a bias unintionally (sic) is just how the human mind works.
For any of you who get your news from Fox News, I link you to this article:
Why Fox News Is An Industry Joke - TurnOffYourTV.com


If you can look at this post and say, "Fox News is not bias and they report the real undistorted (sic) view of the world", then I don't know what to say to you.

So, what do you think? Is Fox News a reliable news source? Or is Fox News the industry joke and the network should be banned for even attempting a broadcast in the US?

biggest lie spreading around is that fox news lies,let me correct that,fox news tells mistruths,meaning they report part of a story that benefits them,but not the full story,as well as twisting the truth to make things seem different than they are.all major news stations seem to do this,all media stations are bias.before fox news liberals ran tv media and conservatives had a stranglehold on talk radio.

what you are seeing is an old debate strategy,if you cant attack with counter evidence,attack the sources credibility.the fact is fox tends to cover stories other stations wont cover and vice versa.i dont watch fox news or any cable news as i prefer local news which covers more of whats going on and less propoganda.in my honest opinion though fox news is attacked entirely too much just because of the stations conservative lean.

once again i say challenge the evidence dont question the source,if the source is wrong prove its wrong instead of saying you cant trust that source.

 

[notquiteright]

Can't and shouldn't ban them, they have a loyal following who want to believe what Fox broadcasts, same as Occy Rush or Savage. As long as partisan politics exists so will the view on the 'lean' of what a news organization puts out.

As seen on many threads here people are highly judgmental on what is discussed, how it is discussed and is it discussed enough compared to other topics, the Travyon/Oakland shooting comparisons come to mind. During this election year I can only imagine it will get worse. Be of stout heart though, great thing about the more partisan outlets, they generally are only preaching to the choir, not changing any minds.

 

[Matt Foley]

Yeah News is biased. It probably doesn't help to have giant media conglomerates owned by 1 guy either, BREAK EM UP!

 

[Grim17]

A liberal errection thread... Pump it boys... Pump it.

 

[Gie]

Looking through all of the threads I only see republican's complaining about liberal bias in the news. Why is it that they are okay with sitting in front of their propaganda machine(FNC) who tells them that the other networks are bias. I mean, if you know a media is bias, why are you going to take anything and I mean ANYTHING it has to say as truth? Now, I will admit, MSNBC IS just as bias, but their are a lot of other news networks that are SO far from bias that it is silly. Now, I should clarify here; when I say bias, I mean intentional bias. If a liberal writes an essay on a subject, obviously some of his views are going to be reflected, even if his intentions, which they most certainly are, are intended to just report facts. Reporting a bias unintionally (sic) is just how the human mind works.
For any of you who get your news from Fox News, I link you to this article:
Why Fox News Is An Industry Joke - TurnOffYourTV.com


If you can look at this post and say, "Fox News is not bias and they report the real undistorted (sic) view of the world", then I don't know what to say to you.

So, what do you think? Is Fox News a reliable news source? Or is Fox News the industry joke and the network should be banned for even attempting a broadcast in the US?

When I saw the thread title a got a good laugh out of it. You mean another thread to call out Fox News Network? Of course then I see that the thread starts with,"Looking through all of the threads I only see republican's complaining about liberal bias in the news. "

Not only is this part of the forum rife with threads calling out Fox News, but the author clearly has not been looking through all or part of the threads here are anywhere else at DP. Somehow I suspect it does not get much better or honest than that, after that. Have fun with this one kiddies.

 

[Harshaw]

Looking through all of the threads I only see republican's complaining about liberal bias in the news.

You didn't happen to notice the vast swathe of liberals who can see bias ONLY in Fox News?

Hmmm. One might consider this the same kind of hypocrisy on your own part.

EDIT: Well, Gie said it better than I did.

 

[Neal N. Bloeme]

Squawk, squawk, Fox news.......squawk, squawk, Fox news.....

Sad times in the USA, the land of the free and the home of the brave. Freedom of the press and free speech......Squawk, squawk, Fox news.

 

[Arbo]

Is Fox News a reliable news source? Or is Fox News the industry joke and the network should be banned for even attempting a broadcast in the US?

There is no such thing as a 'reliable' news source. Not a one of them does not tilt one way or the other, or leave out important parts of the story, or throw in opinion.

But why bother to follow fox just because you think they suck, to point out their issues. There is a whole 501(c)3 out there for that: Media Matters. The most biased 'source' out there... their whole platform is watching Fox and yelling "LIARS!".

 

[Jryan]

A socialist starts a thread about how bad Fox news is. Al Queda agrees with you. Isn't that cute.

Notice the "Lean" next to my "Lean"... "Lean" does not represent my political opinion...

Also, why does it surprise me that the first Conservative post is attacking the source. I guess you learn from the best!

(The best=FNC in your case)

 

[Jryan]

You didn't happen to notice the vast swathe of liberals who can see bias ONLY in Fox News?

Hmmm. One might consider this the same kind of hypocrisy on your own part.

EDIT: Well, Gie said it better than I did.

See argument invilidity that I pointed out to Neal N. Bloeme (one that fox news exploits).

 

[beerftw]

Notice the "Lean" next to my "Lean"... "Lean" does not represent my political opinion...

Also, why does it surprise me that the first Conservative post is attacking the source. I guess you learn from the best!

(The best=FNC in your case)

but you also attacked fox news,therefore making you a hypocrite in believing you can attack a source but challenging a conservative for doing the same.

 

[Jryan]

There is no such thing as a 'reliable' news source. Not a one of them does not tilt one way or the other, or leave out important parts of the story, or throw in opinion.

But why bother to follow fox just because you think they suck, to point out their issues. There is a whole 501(c)3 out there for that: Media Matters. The most biased 'source' out there... their whole platform is watching Fox and yelling "LIARS!".

Well I sort of agree here. Fox News does lie, see: Fox News Wins Lawsuit To Misinform Public
I mean, how can we have a news source with a political agenda.

I also want to clarify. MSNBC is just as bad and deserves the same ban that I propose on FNC.

 

[Jryan]

but you also attacked fox news,therefore making you a hypocrite in believing you can attack a source but challenging a conservative for doing the same.

But I also attacked MSNBC saying they are in the same boat. They play the same political lies. I think the problem is that people, not us educated here on DP, believe that FNC and MSNBC are reliable news sources. They believe that these companies don't lie.

(Sorry for not making the MSNBC point more pungent in the OP)

I would also like to point out that networks like the aforementioned are banned in Canada, Example:

http://readersupportednews.org/opinion2/276-74/5123-fox-news-lies-keep-them-out-of-canada

 

[Higgins86]

Problem is with these so called "news" networks is that they hardly report any actual news, its 90% opinion based and people like Hannity and Maddow wanting to feel important. Just report the news and let me make up my own mind!

 

[Jryan]

Problem is with these so called "news" networks is that they hardly report any actual news, its 90% opinion based and people like Hannity and Maddow wanting to feel important. Just report the news and let me make up my own mind!

Right, and while us "educated on the subject" know that they are opinionated, they call themselves news networks and then that gives them the ability to control the news that their watchers consume.

Goes back to the old saying, "If you don't read the news paper you are uninformed, if you do read the newspaper you are misinformed.", except in this case it is a lot more literal.

 

[Paschendale]

I don't even care about the conservative agenda. I care about their incredibly immoral tactics to achieve that end. They employ literally every single textbook example that journalists are taught not to do. They are as unethical as humanly possible for a journalistic organization, short of just making things up (which Fox does sometimes).

And before anyone brings up the obvious and stupid response, YES, other networks do some of these things, too. But Fox does it more. Much more!

 

[sawyerloggingon]

Looking through all of the threads I only see republican's complaining about liberal bias in the news. Why is it that they are okay with sitting in front of their propaganda machine(FNC) who tells them that the other networks are bias. I mean, if you know a media is bias, why are you going to take anything and I mean ANYTHING it has to say as truth? Now, I will admit, MSNBC IS just as bias, but their are a lot of other news networks that are SO far from bias that it is silly. Now, I should clarify here; when I say bias, I mean intentional bias. If a liberal writes an essay on a subject, obviously some of his views are going to be reflected, even if his intentions, which they most certainly are, are intended to just report facts. Reporting a bias unintionally (sic) is just how the human mind works.
For any of you who get your news from Fox News, I link you to this article:
Why Fox News Is An Industry Joke - TurnOffYourTV.com


If you can look at this post and say, "Fox News is not bias and they report the real undistorted (sic) view of the world", then I don't know what to say to you.

So, what do you think? Is Fox News a reliable news source? Or is Fox News the industry joke and the network should be banned for even attempting a broadcast in the US?

FOX is definitely not liberal, that makes them a whisper in a hurricane. The fact that liberals cant abide even one non lib news source is very telling.

 

[Porchev]

Ha-ha Fox News exists! Now liberals can complain about news….even though Fox appears conservative only when compared to other news stations and shows. When Fox is reporting the news throughout the day, it is truly fair and balanced like they advertise. They do report news objectively. Absolutely they have an opinionated conservative leaning commentary program (Hannity) but they are the only channel on television that has a conservative leaning show like that…so what.

 

[Aunt Spiker]

:rofl WHAT!

"liberals don't call out fox news"

Wow - that's a first - a damn hilarious first.

Where've you been: the ****ing moon? Wow

 

[lizzie]

But I also attacked MSNBC saying they are in the same boat. They play the same political lies.

No, really you didn't *also* attack MSNBC. If you had, you would have included it in the thread title.