A question never answered(correctly) by the left!

[Geoist]

Wrong the body inside her is not hers, what if it's a female child, where are her rights!

The fetus inside her relies on her consent to remain inside.

 

[Blue Dog]

Stop deflecting, equal rights when it comes to his child, don't be obtuse!

Asking a question about the actual topic is deflecting?

Seriously?

 

[Gordy327]

Wrong, that child is equally his, as both parents are represented in the DNA scientifically you are the caveman and giving special rights to a woman tyo kill her child . This is the answer I expected though!

You want to talk science, but use incorrect terminology like "child" when the unborn is not yet a child. The woman does.not have special rights. The man has the exact same right to abortion if he becomes pregnant.

SCIENCE! That child cannot be made without the sperm, from one of the legally consenting adults. But thank you for providing evidence that it is unequal protection!

One of those adults is not having their body used for gestational purposes.

Biologically speaking that is how babies are made,(science) the child is equally the man's child.
Men are made to step up if the woman keeps it correct? No one has answered the question because they can't, it's a special right that was given to women that is unconstitutional, and fathers get no say and it is B.S

Specifically what is this "special right?"

 

[mike2810]

Biologically speaking that is how babies are made,(science) the child is equally the man's child.
Men are made to step up if the woman keeps it correct? No one has answered the question because they can't, it's a special right that was given to women that is unconstitutional, and fathers get no say and it is B.S

The courts may determine a man must step up. How many men don't pay child support.
One report has only 43.5% received full payment. That means 56.5% do not receive full payment or none at all. Being told to contribute is different than actually contributing.

44 Percent of Custodial Parents Receive the Full Amount of Child Support

Approximately two-thirds (69.3 percent) of custodial parents who were due child support received some payments from noncustodial parents.

www.census.gov

Where in the Constitution does it specifically say that a men have equal claim to a developing egg?

imo, in a loving relationship the decision to abort could be a decision both male and female make. In an abusive relationship or forced pregnancy the decision should be the female choice. Why should a rapist have any say on the pregnancy?

 

[Patriotguy]

Nothing I've stated is an emotional response. The problem with your argument is that it does not address the overall load of the pregnancy on one particular parent who happens to be the sole host. Your argument would be a good one in the case of egg laying animals, but not for human beings. What you seem to be advocating is women not having a say in their own involvement in the process despite them having to endure it physically over the course of 9 months.

The overall load is irrelevant, both parties engaged in consensual sex, that child is equally a part of him regardless of who carries it. When you speak of overall burden or load it is an emotional plea to give women a special right to murder! You can dress that crap up all you want with semantics like, healthcare, and burden, fact is he is not equally protected.

 

[Patriotguy]

So do men, and as such understand that the decision to have a child is not solely theirs.

The courts may determine a man must step up. How many men don't pay child support.
One report has only 43.5% received full payment. That means 56.5% do not receive full payment or none at all. Being told to contribute is different than actually contributing.

44 Percent of Custodial Parents Receive the Full Amount of Child Support

Approximately two-thirds (69.3 percent) of custodial parents who were due child support received some payments from noncustodial parents.

www.census.gov

Where in the Constitution does it specifically say that a men have equal claim to a developing egg?

imo, in a loving relationship the decision to abort could be a decision both male and female make. In an abusive relationship or forced pregnancy the decision should be the female choice. Why should a rapist have any say on the pregnancy?

Where does it state that women have a right to murder! Child support is a moot point! He gets no rights!

 

[Gordy327]

The overall load is irrelevant, both parties engaged in consensual sex, that child is equally a part of him regardless of who carries it. When you speak of overall burden or load it is an emotional plea to give women a special right to murder! You can dress that crap up all you want with semantics like, healthcare, and burden, fact is he is not equally protected.

Calling BS! You have not demonstrated what this "special right" is nor prove its not provided to the man. Just because sex was consensual is irrelevant. That is not the same as consenting to becoming or remaining pregnant. And abortion is not murder.

 

[Patriotguy]

You want to talk science, but use incorrect terminology like "child" when the unborn is not yet a child. The woman does.not have special rights. The man has the exact same right to abortion if he becomes pregnant.
One of those adults is not having their body used for gestational purposes.

Specifically what is this "special right?"

She agreed in principal when she chose to engage in behavior that led to her condition! You let me know when the human child, comes out as anything but a human child, which it is a conception via DNA transfer.

You want to talk science, but use incorrect terminology like "child" when the unborn is not yet a child. The woman does.not have special rights. The man has the exact same right to abortion if he becomes pregnant.
One of those adults is not having their body used for gestational purposes.

Specifically what is this "special right?"

The right to murder the unborn

 

[Gordy327]

Where does it state that women have a right to murder! Child support is a moot point! He gets no rights!

What rights is he being denied?

 

[Patriotguy]

So do men, and as such understand that the decision to have a child is not solely theirs.

Not solely theirs?, they get no part of the decision!

 

[Patriotguy]

What rights is he being denied?

Fatherhood stop being obtuse!

 

[Gordy327]

She agreed in principal when she chose to engage in behavior that led to her condition! You let me know when the human child, comes out as anything but a human child, which it is a conception via DNA transfer.

That's only an assumption. She may not want to be pregnant. And it's not a child until birth. Again, science.

The right to murder the unborn

Abortion is not murder. That's law.
Looks like you're 0 for 2.

 

[noonereal]

when the child is equally the mans

Equally the man's?
The man carries the baby in his body 9 months?
The man feeds the baby after birth from his breast?
The man has the same hormones compelling him to care for the child?

Really, really stupid question you asked. Very, very stupid.
What they taught us in grade school is not true. There are such things as stupid questions and this is an example.

 

[Rawley]

Because the child is not inside the man's body.

At least you acknowledge it's a child. It's a start.

 

[Gordy327]

Fatherhood stop being obtuse!

Where is that textualized as a right? If there's no birth, then there's no fatherhood to begin with. So he's not being denied anything. If the woman doesn't want to be a mother, why should she be forced to? That's a violation of her rights.

 

[mike2810]

Where does it state that women have a right to murder! Child support is a moot point! He gets no rights!

Where does the Constitution say abortion is "murder"?

imo, it is a woman's choice to have an abortion or not.

 

[Gaius46]

If a man, and a woman agree to consensual sex, and she gets pregnant, why, when the child is equally the mans, does he not get equal protection under the law, lets keep it scientific shall we, leave your emotion next to the tissues. WHY DOES HE NOT RECEIVE EQUAL RIGHTS

Because this isn't remotely an equal protection issue.

 

[BirdinHand]

Wrong the body inside her is not hers, what if it's a female child, where are her rights!

cells and fetuses don't have rights.

The overall load is irrelevant, both parties engaged in consensual sex, that child is equally a part of him regardless of who carries it. When you speak of overall burden or load it is an emotional plea to give women a special right to murder! You can dress that crap up all you want with semantics like, healthcare, and burden, fact is he is not equally protected.

Oh well. Suck it up. Men contribute DNA via their sperm. The potential future child may share his DNA, but it is not a "part of him" and never will have been a "part of him".

She agreed in principal when she chose to engage in behavior that led to her condition! You let me know when the human child, comes out as anything but a human child, which it is a conception via DNA transfer.

Yay! Men provided half the DNA. Let us know when you get a uterus. Then you can have a say as to what happens in that uterus.

 

[CaughtInThe]

If a man, and a woman agree to consensual sex, and she gets pregnant, why, when the child is equally the mans, does he not get equal protection under the law, lets keep it scientific shall we, leave your emotion next to the tissues. WHY DOES HE NOT RECEIVE EQUAL RIGHTS

moot point. the right is gonna outlaw all abortions.

 

[ElChupacabra]

Not solely theirs?, they get no part of the decision!

Sure they do, but the final decision isn't theirs because they are not the baby's host.

 

[ElChupacabra]

Where does it state that women have a right to murder!

Abortion is not defined as murder legally, so this is an emotional response from you.

 

[ElChupacabra]

The overall load is irrelevant, both parties engaged in consensual sex, that child is equally a part of him regardless of who carries it. When you speak of overall burden or load it is an emotional plea to give women a special right to murder! You can dress that crap up all you want with semantics like, healthcare, and burden, fact is he is not equally protected.

It is absolutely relevant, since the mother is the one carrying the baby to term. To ignore the fact the woman has to go through this process is absurd in terms of assessing the roles and responsibilities of both parties. Right now the only one making an emotional plea is you because you've taken only one aspect of the reproductive process into account. You argument does work better if women laid eggs like birds and reptiles, or where men carried eggs to term like seahorses.

 

[Fishking]

If a man, and a woman agree to consensual sex, and she gets pregnant, why, when the child is equally the mans, does he not get equal protection under the law, lets keep it scientific shall we, leave your emotion next to the tissues. WHY DOES HE NOT RECEIVE EQUAL RIGHTS

The question needs more context. Are you talking about before birth, with things like abortion or after birth, with things like child custody and child support?

 

[Patriotguy]

You stating that a man should have equal say over a woman's body is an emotional response. You are projecting.

Wrong biologically speaking that child is equally his!

 

[Patriotguy]

Abortion is also science

No it's murder!