A-HA Gotcha Hillary: Turn out the Lights, The Party is Over!

[Skeptic Bob]

Interesting defense....one that exhibits the true cynicism of the Obama socialists. all that matters is wining, not the welfare of the people or the brave who serve. Three marines and one highly respected diplomat were slaughtered and not one defender of Obama cares one wit.... "we won, yu lost".
However, the voters did not know about "you can keep your plan" then, they did not know Obama was arming rebels nor that he planned to create jobs for terrorists while Americans were losing their jobs because of Obamacare.

What is most strange, is that innocent people usually welcome a chance to set the record straight, like the recently vilified and vindicate Mr. O'Reilly, ...but Obama and his lemmings only howl "nothing there"...and have been for over two years and now we have evidence of a cover up at the highest level at State. And that was before the voters denied you control of both houses.

This is how Watergate unfolded, that too took a couple of years to unfold amid the administration scoffing "nothing there". If that taught me anything it is where there is smoke there is fire....and Obama's mighty star making machinery and all of the resources of the Democratic party have not been able to quench the smoke.

I would be worried, but for the sake of America I am glad you are not. Nixon's people weren't either, until they were.

Don't mistake my view of how voters will treat this as an excuse on my part. I knew two of the men who died there and I will never forgive the Administration for how they handled it.

 

[Fearandloathing]

Don't mistake my view of how voters will treat this as an excuse on my part. I knew two of the men who died there and I will never forgive the Administration for how they handled it.

My apologies, it read like a defense of Obama and the cynicism of winning.

As a supporter of veterans can you explain the lack of outrage that these men were not avenged? I am not pro military, typically Canadian, but no way can these lives simply be forgotten. The US, under your president, when he was making it into a circus of celebrants gone wild, merely promised an FBI investigation which has produced zero results?

Where are the former and current soldiers on this? Why the lack of protest that honorable men, in the service to their country were taken out by an identified enemy.


I hate George Bush's government for various reasons, but there would be enemy bodies piling up were he president and that is what should have happened...a lot of what we are witnessing today is an indirect result of Obama allowing them to become emboldened to the point of giving American the finger. Worse than Jimmy Carter leaving American soldiers to rot in Iran

 

[Objective Voice]

I've got one word for Judicial Watch and, thus, the OP:

:spin:

From the cache of emails Judicial Watch apparently received via FOIA:

* Email from Patrick H. Ventrell, 9/11/2012 @ 7:31pm:

Situation in Benghazi very fluid. Hearing conflicting reports. We will share what we can as soon as we can.

* Email from Michael Posner dated 9/12/2012 @ 1:34pm:

FW: Rabbi Saperstein "Saddened and Appalled" by Tragic Violence in Libya, Egypt

(Exerpt) In response to the recent violence in Egypt and Libya...

This act of violence, and the similarily threatening violence at the U.S. embassy in Cairo...

The video and the views it espouses do not reflect the views of the overwhelming majority of Americans and people of faith.

* Email from Margaret Brennan, 9/11/2012 @ 11:45 pm

Re: Off the Record

(Exerpt) Some have sought to justify this vicious behavior as a response to inflammatory material posted on the Internet.

* Email from Lawrence M. Randolph, 9/12/8:16 AM:

Re: FW: Spot Report - Libyan president and PM condemn consulate attack

(Exerpt)The attack [in Libya] coincided with other attacks by those opposed to the political process in Libya.

Was the attack in Benghazi a coordinated attack? Yes

Did the State Dept know it at the time? No

The above is commentary taken from the very documents Judicial Watch linked to as having received from the State Department via FOIA. How they can continue to characterize this horrible incident as anything other than a situation where information was sketchy initially and continuously unfolding until all the details came out is not only a disgrace, it's laughable per their ineptitude and continued political bias. But you don't have to take my word for it. Read the emails for yourself!

Furthermore, Judicial Watch clearly lied in the OP article when they said:

The documents make no reference to a spontaneous demonstration or Internet video, except in an official statement issued by Hillary Clinton.

More :spin:. What condolence notice would make such references? In any case, I've just quoted portions of emails received from their own FOIA request that makes it very clear that State Dept officials initially thought the attack was spontaneous. Later they thought it might have been in response to an inflammatory video putting down the Muslim religion. It wasn't until hours later did they begin to realize that perhaps it was part of a coordinated attack.

 

[ARealConservative]

I think her Bosnia under fire lie is going to be a bigger deal. If such a lie is enough to warrant an anchor losing employment for 6 months, it should be enough to end the career of a presidential hopeful.

 

[ttwtt78640]

Looks like BO will let it divert towards Hillary.....then his true chosen can run. You know the Woman that says she was a Native American.

Once the rest of the Demos find out.....it will be all hands on Hillary deck, and abandon ship.

BO doesn't care who will run so long as the ship turns left and continues to take on water.

 

[MMC]

I've got one word for Judicial Watch and, thus, the OP:

:spin:

From the cache of emails Judicial Watch apparently received via FOIA:

* Email from Patrick H. Ventrell, 9/11/2012 @ 7:31pm:



* Email from Michael Posner dated 9/12/2012 @ 1:34pm:



* Email from Margaret Brennan, 9/11/2012 @ 11:45 pm



* Email from Lawrence M. Randolph, 9/12/8:16 AM:



Was the attack in Benghazi a coordinated attack? Yes

Did the State Dept know it at the time? No

The above is commentary taken from the very documents Judicial Watch linked to as having received from the State Department via FOIA. How they can continue to characterize this horrible incident as anything other than a situation where information was sketchy initially and continuously unfolding until all the details came out is not only a disgrace, it's laughable per their ineptitude and continued political bias. But you don't have to take my word for it. Read the emails for yourself!

Furthermore, Judicial Watch clearly lied in the OP article when they said:



More :spin:. What condolence notice would make such references? In any case, I've just quoted portions of emails received from their own FOIA request that makes it very clear that State Dept officials initially thought the attack was spontaneous. Later they thought it might have been in response to an inflammatory video putting down the Muslim religion. It wasn't until hours later did they begin to realize that perhaps it was part of a coordinated attack.

The only Spin is you trying to help Hillary and Her crew save face.


The documents were produced as a result of a Freedom of Information Act lawsuit against the State Department (Judicial Watch v. U.S. Department of State ((No. 1:14-cv-01511). The documents make no reference to a spontaneous demonstration or Internet video, except in an official statement issued by Hillary Clinton.

On September 11, 2012, 4:38 PM, State Department Foreign Service Officer Lawrence Randolph forwarded Mills, Sullivan and McManus an email from Scott Bultrowicz, who was the former director of the Diplomatic Security Service (ousted following review of the attack), with the subject line, “Attack on Benghazi 09112012”:.....snip~

Judicial Watch FOIA: State knew Ansar al-Sharia claimed Benghazi attack in first hours « Hot Air


You did note all those links to the material that the Judicial Watch and a Judge.....Forced.....that's called using force. TO make Team Hillary do what they didn't want to do..

Have you figure out that part about Hillary and her Team fighting with DESPERATION in trying TO PREVENT the Emails from even being released. What happened?????

 

[Paperview]

I've got one word for Judicial Watch and, thus, the OP:

:spin:

From the cache of emails Judicial Watch apparently received via FOIA:

* Email from Patrick H. Ventrell, 9/11/2012 @ 7:31pm:

Situation in Benghazi very fluid. Hearing conflicting reports. We will share what we can as soon as we can.

* Email from Michael Posner dated 9/12/2012 @ 1:34pm:

FW: Rabbi Saperstein "Saddened and Appalled" by Tragic Violence in Libya, Egypt

(Exerpt) In response to the recent violence in Egypt and Libya...

This act of violence, and the similarily threatening violence at the U.S. embassy in Cairo...

The video and the views it espouses do not reflect the views of the overwhelming majority of Americans and people of faith.

* Email from Margaret Brennan, 9/11/2012 @ 11:45 pm

Re: Off the Record

(Exerpt) Some have sought to justify this vicious behavior as a response to inflammatory material posted on the Internet.

* Email from Lawrence M. Randolph, 9/12/8:16 AM:

Re: FW: Spot Report - Libyan president and PM condemn consulate attack

(Exerpt)The attack [in Libya] coincided with other attacks by those opposed to the political process in Libya.

Was the attack in Benghazi a coordinated attack? Yes

Did the State Dept know it at the time? No

The above is commentary taken from the very documents Judicial Watch linked to as having received from the State Department via FOIA. How they can continue to characterize this horrible incident as anything other than a situation where information was sketchy initially and continuously unfolding until all the details came out is not only a disgrace, it's laughable per their ineptitude and continued political bias. But you don't have to take my word for it. Read the emails for yourself!

Furthermore, Judicial Watch clearly lied in the OP article when they said:



More :spin:. What condolence notice would make such references? In any case, I've just quoted portions of emails received from their own FOIA request that makes it very clear that State Dept officials initially thought the attack was spontaneous. Later they thought it might have been in response to an inflammatory video putting down the Muslim religion. It wasn't until hours later did they begin to realize that perhaps it was part of a coordinated attack.

:clap: Excellent post. Thank you.

 

[MMC]

Pffft......you will have to do better then just a denial.



Nearly seven hours later, at 12:04 am, on September 12, Randolph sends an email with the subject line “FW: Update 3: Benghazi Shelter Location Also Under Attack” to Mills, Sullivan, and McManus that has several updates about the Benghazi attack:

Note the time differences here, which are all Eastern Time at the State Department. The first flash comes at 4:38 PM, noting an armed attack on the compound by 15 armed individuals. There is no mention of a demonstration or riot in this information. Eighteen minutes later, the firing has supposedly stopped and the compound cleared, with the personnel that could be found retreating to the “shelter location.” Just 72 minutes after that, the State Department knows that Ansar al-Sharia has claimed responsibility — a known group that publicly allies itself with al-Qaeda, and who had demonstrated in force a few months earlier in Benghazi. Also, less than six hours later, the shelter location starts taking mortar fire in a second-wave attack, which could hardly be the result of a spontaneous riot – especially given the covert nature of the location.....snip~

Judicial Watch FOIA: State knew Ansar al-Sharia claimed Benghazi attack in first hours « Hot Air

 

[Paperview]

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[MMC]

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Uh oh. :shock: .....

The DOS emails reveal the first official confirmation of the death of Ambassador Stevens. On September 12, 2012, 3:22 AM, Senior Watch Officer Andrew Veprek forwarded an email to numerous State Department officials, which was later forwarded to Cheryl Mills and Joseph McManus, with the subject line “Death of Ambassador Stevens in Benghazi”:

Embassy Tripoli confirms the death of Ambassador John C. (Chris) Stevens in Benghazi. His body has been recovered and is at the airport in Benghazi. Two hours later, Joseph McManus forwards the news about Ambassador Stevens’ death to officials in the State Department Legislative Affairs office with instructions not to “forward to anyone at this point.”

Cheryl Mills asks that the State Department stop answering press inquiries at 12:11 am on September 12, despite the ongoing questions about “Chris’ whereabouts.” In an email to State Department spokesman Victoria Nuland, Jacob Kennedy, and Phillipe Reines (then-Deputy Assistant Secretary of State for Strategic Communications and Senior Communications Advisor), Mills writes: Can we stop answering emails for the night Toria b/c now the first one [Hillary Clinton’s “inflammatory material posted on the Internet” statement] is hanging out there. Earlier in the chain of emails, Nuland told Mills, Sullivan, and Patrick Kennedy (Under Secretary of State for Management) that she “ignored” a question about Ambassador Steven’s status and whereabouts from a CBS News Reporter.....snip~

It

 

[bubbabgone]

When one serves at the pleasure of the president and expects the continued support of that political party then it is best to please both. If you expect Benghazi to be a defining issue in selecting the DNC (and MSM) favored presidential candidate for 2016 then you may be in for a surprise.

Funny you mention something like that.
I'm sensing that the MSM is not thinking that Hillary is a candidate they can help drag over the finish line.
She's got money, yes, but she's got baggage too, and really is a weak candidate.

No ... I think they're going to start a drumbeat for Pocahontas.
Now SHE's someone they could get behind with vigor.

You heard it here first.

 

[US Conservative]

Yes but now comes the good part .....Gowdy will call them to testify under Oath. This time Cheryl Mills and any others that deflected to protect Hillary can be served up.

Gowdy is going to have his way with them.

 

[US Conservative]

It's "What difference, at this point, does it make?" The grammar of a third grader....

"At this point...." This is a new point. I hope she gets it...all of it

Hillary is going to be made to know what difference it makes.

 

[US Conservative]

You can thank Judicial Watch and whatever Judge that forced up the Emails that Team Hillary has fought hard and long to prevent from getting out into the open......I think I can hear Gowdy Rubbing his hands together now. Can't you?

I might break out a cigar and makers mark while I listen to that testimony.

 

[US Conservative]

I think it depends how how long she waits before deciding not to run. If she keeps stringing the Democrats along...keeps them hoping she's going to run...when she DOES decline to run the Party will have that much harder of a time coming up with a replacement. Heck, my guess is that a huge majority of her Party are not even aware that she might not run...they already assume she will and they think she'll be the next President...hands down. It'll be a massive shock to those people when they find out everything's changed.

That can only HELP the Republicans.

She may also end up being the shield for whomever does run, she might already be. By keeping the scrutiny on her, it takes heat off of other candidates. Of course after the primaries there will be no hiding.

 

[US Conservative]

This is pretty stupid.

Anyone who read the paper that day knew Ansar al-Sharia took responsibility. "Claiming responsibility" does not affirm immediately anything. That doesn't mean they had it all figured out who did it -- especially as what was happening at another embassy, and the whole news worldwide was of that stupid video inflaming Muslims in Egypt. Especially as it subsequently erupted all over the world that week.

There's no AHA here, any more than the 14,000 other times you cons thought you had something.

The old carcass of Benghazi!!! has been investigated and beaten to death.

So ridiculous you cons think...AHA! but this time, this time -- it'll werk!

The more this is investigated the worse it looks for this administration and Hillary.
You may desperately wish for this to be over-but I assure you its not.

 

[US Conservative]

Get a clue: Bad things sometimes happen to people in who work in dangerous parts of the world.

That of course is true. But the lies of a presidential candidate to cover up what happened are not. :2wave:

 

[MMC]

Gowdy is going to have his way with them.

Heya USC. :2wave: Oh I can't wait for him to get Cheryl Mills, and Gloria Nuland on the stand. Then Hillary herself.....lets see her pull that stunt where she thinks she can get upset.

I want Gowdy to ask her under oath. Why she didn't even try and call back to see if her people made it out alive. Then don't you think, you should have being the Head of State? You knew their lives were in direct danger.

Then ask her directly......did you send Stevens to Benghazi on the Anniversary of 911 to meet a Turk Envoy? What was a Turk Envoy doing in Benghazi when they had closed their Embassy and sent their people home? Did you send Stevens to meet the Turk Envoy. There are only 2 people that could have given him a directive. Answer the question now or plead the 5th until that information is released. Oh.....and it will be released. So think about your Answer Ms Clinton, real carefully!.

This time people want to see her Humiliated lets hope Gowdy does it in a Professional way.

 

[US Conservative]

Oh, there will be a sniper story in there somewhere. Maybe her computer was stolen or "I was asleep, it could have been anybody.."

The spokesperson is getting a prescription for Busiprone ...look it up.

Buspar is effective in treating both smoking and depression. He's gonna need it.

 

[Paperview]

The more this is investigated the worse it looks for this administration and Hillary.
You may desperately wish for this to be over-but I assure you its not.

You can keep trying, but most of the country is just going to see a bunch of unspooled pack weasels doing this:

 

[US Conservative]

Heya USC. :2wave: Oh I can't wait for him to get Cheryl Mills, and Gloria Nuland on the stand. Then Hillary herself.....lets see her pull that stunt where she thinks she can get upset.

I want Gowdy to ask her under oath. Why she didn't even try and call back to see if her people made it out alive. Then don't you think, you should have being the Head of State? You knew their lives were in direct danger.

Then ask her directly......did you send Stevens to Benghazi on the Anniversary of 911 to meet a Turk Envoy? What was a Turk Envoy doing in Benghazi when they had closed their Embassy and sent their people home? Did you send Stevens to meet the Turk Envoy. There are only 2 people that could have given him a directive. Answer the question now or plead the 5th until that information is released. Oh.....and it will be released. So think about your Answer Ms Clinton, real carefully!.

This time people want to see her Humiliated lets hope Gowdy does it in a Professional way.

Gowdy is the king of cross examination. Its going to be a sight to see.
I also want to know who pushed the video.

 

[US Conservative]

You can keep trying, but most of the country is just going to see a bunch of unspooled pack weasels doing this:

The left has been saying for years this is a dead horse, and yet here it is. I wonder if you've noticed if anything its gaining momentum and obviously not going away?

 

[Fearandloathing]

You can keep trying, but most of the country is just going to see a bunch of unspooled pack weasels doing this:

I remember Republicans saying that for three years about this thing called Watergate. They said there was "nothing there" too.

So, if no one gives a ****, why would any news outlet publish this? Or do you believe the news media is a racists conspiracy designed to make the president look bad.

The smell lingers here....I suspect a lot of Americans are saying "what? I thought that was settled" and start paying closer attention especially after "you can keep your plan.." and since Libya is now a base for ISIS.

And on that one, you can bet the Republican controlled congress the PEOPLE elected will make sure to be asking how a stable Libya under Gaddafi became a base for America's worst nightmare

 

[Mycroft]

She may also end up being the shield for whomever does run, she might already be. By keeping the scrutiny on her, it takes heat off of other candidates. Of course after the primaries there will be no hiding.

Well, maybe...

The thing is, there really isn't anyone else from her Party expressing much interest in running. I started a thread not long ago about that and no forum members came up with anyone who might run if Hillary doesn't. There just didn't seem to be much interest in the topic.

If I were Hillary, I'd be more interested in making things clear to my own Party about whether I'm going to run or not. All this waffling and coyness on her part isn't doing her Party any good.

 

[MMC]

Gowdy is the king of cross examination. Its going to be a sight to see.
I also want to know who pushed the video.

According to the Emails.....it was Hillary who came up with the Spontaneous Protest.