150 human animal hybrids grown in UK labs (1 Viewer)

[Mach]

And you all though Al Gore was crazy when I raved about Man-Bear-Pig.
Hell, Barfly's talking spidergoats.
I saw Splice. Human hybrids is all about making kinky sex slaves.

ManBearPig Wiki

 

[BmanMcfly]

This has apparently been going on much longer than we thought. In the latter years of WWII, England began attempts at human-pig hybrids, hoping to build an elite force of bomb-sniffing pigmen (pigs of course having even better olfactory sensitivites than dogs). Early attempts were highly unsuccessful, and the first major breakthrough wasn't realized until the '60s. Wilbur120209 was the first hybrid that lived for any amount of time outside of the womb:

A recent wikileaks dump (quickly scrubbed) indicated that the craft was eventually perfected. Perhaps even more disturbing was information confirming that the Brits sent at least one of these hybrids into the US with a mission to infiltrate the government and weaken its economy under a pretense of environmentalism:

Is this legit???

Do you have other sources going along with this??

Human-pig hybrid embryos given go ahead - Telegraph - This seems to be the original source article relating to this monkey-faced pig... but actionnooz is the blog / digg-type site it came from... anything else as far as this one goes?

Cows make humanized milk
Stumbled across this one now too...

 

[IceteaGreen]

To BmanMcfly

I don't know how advanced humans are in this discipline in these blacksites where these experiments are performed, but publicly, the extent of our genetic understanding is that the genome has been read, but I seriously doubt that we have more then the most basic understanding of how the actual "code" of genetics works... what this means is that we are MOST likely, because of a lack of real understanding, to create a situation that could put at risk the entirety of human society...

http://www.somloquesembrem.org/img_editor/file/Kilic&Akay08BtMaizeFeedingStudy.pdf - what happens to rats eating GMO foods for 3 generations.

I have not read all the thread but just wanted to come back to this part...You seemed to imply that this study proved horrible effects of GMO on rats in just 3 generations (like hair on teeth or whatever), but I read carefully the study and the conclusions are as follows:

In conclusion, although the results obtained from this
study showed minor histopathological and biochemical
effects in rats fed with Bt corn, long-term consumption of
transgenic Bt corn throughout three generation did not
cause severe health concerns on rats. Therefore, long-term
feeding studies with GM crops should be performed on
other species collaboration with new improving technologies in order to assure their safety

So to summarize, no really adverse effect!!!

Now I honestly wonder, here... where did you see the horrible impact? (and it's not a slanted question, I really want to know...)


Thank you in advance!

IceTgreen

 

[danarhea]

Link for story: Embryos involving the genes of animals mixed with humans have been produced secretively for the past three years | Mail Online

It's pretty cool with lots of potential for developing treatments otherwise unavailable. People will panic because it has the word "human" in it, but many of us knew this was happening, and there is nothing inappropriate.

Do you think they might produce a human-politician mix any time in the future? :mrgreen:

 

[winston53660]

Do you think they might produce a human-politician mix any time in the future? :mrgreen:

That would be against the laws of nature!

 

[Temporal]

Science proceeds unabated and as usual washes its hands of all ethics while claiming objectivity.

They have no problem messing with the tree of life in search of profitable medicines for big corporations.

I do believe science should have limits sometimes.

 

[Jeezy]

Is this legit???

Do you have other sources going along with this??

Human-pig hybrid embryos given go ahead - Telegraph - This seems to be the original source article relating to this monkey-faced pig... but actionnooz is the blog / digg-type site it came from... anything else as far as this one goes?

Cows make humanized milk
Stumbled across this one now too...

Dude, he's making fun of you.

 

[Utility Man]

"5. A woman can't be trusted with decisions about her own body, but multinational corporations can make decisions affecting all humankind without regulation."

 

[jding]

nice I'd love my baby to be a hybrid bird/human so we can avoid paying airline tickets for him ;]

 

[molten_dragon]

I'm not surprised at all. It was going to happen sooner or later.

And I'm not as disgusted as some of you seem to be by the idea.

 

[Councilman]

Will this finally put an end to the Birther issues? Obama was not born in Kenya, they clearly don't have the technology. lol

 

[Helix]

i work in the biotech field. i have worked with genetically modified organisms, and have inserted genes into organisms in research; though my work has been microbiological. it's not quite like the journalists and bloggers who want to make it into a movie plot make it out to be. i would guess that they are probably trying to insert traits into stem cells that will make them differentiate more successfully with a lower cancer risk. i doubt they are trying to make platypus / human organisms to populate some secret zoo.

rule number one when it comes to a lot of this stuff is not to take news articles or blog posts written by non-scientists as unassailable fact. research the topic and find out for yourself. coming from my end, most of the science i see on a day to day basis is someone trying to treat a disease or create a crop technology that yields more food.

i'm much more afraid of "natural" threats like cancer and parents who believe liars like Andrew Wakefield and then end up putting their children at risk of dying from an 18th century disease because they believe there's an autism link.

another sad example is that we could virtually eliminate a significant percentage of food poisoning by irradiating food, but people are more afraid of the word irradiation than they are of E. coli 0157:H7 or 0145.

 

[Taylor]

Cows make humanized milk
Stumbled across this one now too...

The whole safety/ethical issue aside, I think it very strange that it seems to me very natural to drink the milk of a cow, but if that were human milk... disgusting!

 

[Aunt Spiker]

Where are the freaky photos? I won't believe it 'til I get to adopt a humacorn. Until then it's all hogwash.

 

[Goshin]

This makes me a bit uncomfortable. The potential for abuse in less ethical venues is great.

 

[Deuce]

I have a question.

Why is mixing animal and human DNA for experimental purposes seen as such a taboo?

No, seriously, people talk as if it is some sort of obvious line that must never be crossed but... why? The answer always seems to be "it's wrong" or "it's unnatural" or along those lines, something entirely subjective.

 

[BmanMcfly]

To BmanMcfly

I have not read all the thread but just wanted to come back to this part...You seemed to imply that this study proved horrible effects of GMO on rats in just 3 generations (like hair on teeth or whatever), but I read carefully the study and the conclusions are as follows:

So to summarize, no really adverse effect!!!

Now I honestly wonder, here... where did you see the horrible impact? (and it's not a slanted question, I really want to know...)

Thank you in advance!

IceTgreen

Sorry, I grabbed the wrong study....
- http://www.biosicherheit.de/pdf/aktuell/zentek_studie_2008.pdf
and
- Institute for Responsible Technology - Genetically Modified Soy Linked to Sterility, Infant Mortality (yes, this is more like a blog, but it links a number of the papers)

Dude, he's making fun of you.

That's fine, read my sig. Jokes on him that, EVEN IF that is a joke, it had links to articles concerning OTHER human-animal hybrids.

The whole safety/ethical issue aside, I think it very strange that it seems to me very natural to drink the milk of a cow, but if that were human milk... disgusting!

Well, is it REALLY going to be "Human" milk coming out, or is it going to be a "simulation" that more closely resembles human milk???

Is that product going to be safe for consumption?? If yes, do you have any sources that corroborates this belief?

 

[BmanMcfly]

Where are the freaky photos? I won't believe it 'til I get to adopt a humacorn. Until then it's all hogwash.

Normal hamster mouth next to 3rd generation hamster in the study with hair growing from it's teeth.

GM eating rodents children do not grow as quickly as those that have not eaten GMO foods.

I have a question.

Why is mixing animal and human DNA for experimental purposes seen as such a taboo?

No, seriously, people talk as if it is some sort of obvious line that must never be crossed but... why? The answer always seems to be "it's wrong" or "it's unnatural" or along those lines, something entirely subjective.

1 - In foods : it's too late for corn, the VAST majority of corn grown in north america (at least, if not most of the world) is already GMO, you can't put that genie back in the bottle... well, let's say 50 years down the line it becomes determined without ANY doubts that this GMO corn is now a toxic plant, there are implications to removing corn from people's diets.

2 - in animals: If you have a human-animal hybrid and that animal gets infected with a certain virus that cannot affect humans, and in the animal evolution has rendered the virus little more than a nuisance. Well, if it infects that animal hybrid, it allows the virus to adapt to human genetics and now this virus becomes a novel human virus, which because humans have never been exposed to this virus can be MUCH MORE detrimental than in the animal alone.

3 - While there have been advances in our understanding of genetics, I'm all but certain that we have not reached the point where we understand the "code" that determines how genes replicate / combine across generations. So, while we might have an animal that is normal THIS generation, but we don't know enough to say what the risks might be 20-30-50 generations down the line... there might be some combinations that will lead to the animal becoming sterile, or mutated somehow, or all sorts of problems.

 

[SheWolf]

Wow... Just wow...

Comments?? I'm personally speechless.

soylent green is both people and animals

 

[SheWolf]

I don't doubt it... I've known about the spider-goats for years, but it's a big step to go from that to half-human genetic hybrids.

I can't imagine what some of these creatures would look like full grown... of course they probably don't let these things go beyond the embryo stage.

 

[SheWolf]

You have been watching to many movies.

Did you see 28 Days? They created a zombie virus in a lab, and it came from a monkey or chimp or something. I am going to find my Zombie Survival Guide, tin foil hat, and check my supplies, just in case.

 

[winston53660]

I can't imagine what some of these creatures would look like full grown... of course they probably don't let these things go beyond the embryo stage.

(PhysOrg.com) -- Researchers from the University of Wyoming have developed a way to incorporate spiders' silk-spinning genes into goats, allowing the researchers to harvest the silk protein from the goats’ milk for a variety of applications. For instance, due to its strength and elasticity, spider silk fiber could have several medical uses, such as for making artificial ligaments and tendons, for eye sutures, and for jaw repair. The silk could also have applications in bulletproof vests and improved car airbags.

Scientists breed goats that produce spider silk

 

[505]

3 - While there have been advances in our understanding of genetics, I'm all but certain that we have not reached the point where we understand the "code" that determines how genes replicate / combine across generations.

All but certain huh? Yeah, instead of actually getting EDUCATED about these things, let's just go with the gut. It works so good for everything else. :roll:

 

[BmanMcfly]

All but certain huh? Yeah, instead of actually getting EDUCATED about these things, let's just go with the gut. It works so good for everything else. :roll:

And let's just ignore the series of links, the topic at hand, and actually making a point and instead just find some non-issue that we can pretend to have knowledge about something without actually saying anything...

But let me clarify; I phrased it like that, specifically, because public knowledge is that we have only barely grasped decoding and mapping the genome... And since I can't speak for the knowledge obtained in these secret labs (that are admitted to exist), so, I can only use my gut to say that there might be greater knowledge, but if you've got information to suggest that our mastery of genetics is more advanced than my perception then b all means provide this information for the rest of us.

 

[Harry Guerrilla]

The whole safety/ethical issue aside, I think it very strange that it seems to me very natural to drink the milk of a cow, but if that were human milk... disgusting!

If I want human milk, I go straight to the source. :2razz: