Zef [W:222:432]

[johndylan1]

Re: Zef [W:222]

1.)lol nice try you are listing TWO DIFFERENT MORALS, one he seperates himself from
morally he is against abortion but he wouldnt take that sensibility and have that law
2.) yes it is, you lose and facts defeat you again

no You have yet to defeat me in any debate with a cogent argument. You simply deny what is clearly true and claim victory for yourself... it's really narcissistic.

 

[AGENT J]

Re: Zef [W:222]

1.)no You have yet to defeat me in any debate with a cogent argument.
2.)You simply deny what is clearly true and claim victory for yourself...
3.)it's really narcissistic.

1.) im sure YOU think that but facts disagree and prove your statement wrong lol Youve lost them all that i can remember and but i cant say "I" defeated you, fact did. I played no role i just pointed out the facts.
2.) you havent presented ANY truths that support your claims, if you disagree by all means present them now, please list these facts that support your failed defeated claims.
3.) failed deflections like these never work, Like i said if you believe your posts were successful please post the facts that make them true. pleas list the FACTUALLY truths i ignored i cant wait to read them. PLEASE do this.

 

[sangha]

Re: Zef [W:222]

Laws are based on MORAL PRINCIPLES which are used to create laws that are UNBIASED as possible to those who they apply to.

Therein lies a big difference than morality...as you describe it.

I disagree

Laws are based on the consent of the governed.

It doesn't matter *why* they consented. Maybe they were guided by their morals. Or maybe not.

 

[Bodi]

Re: Zef [W:222]

It's usage marks someoe as an obviously uneducated bigot. It's a slur used only by only the most zealous pro-abortion bloggers and forum dwellers, used to diminish and dehumanize abortion victims.

ZEF encompasses a time period, not the kid growing... just relax.

 

[Bodi]

Re: Zef [W:222]

That's just it, and I find it amazing that you either cannot understand or you are intentionally being obtuse, they do not have to justify the way they feel to you. They only have an obligation to inform you of their position, you take it from there and allow it to inform your behavior. You act as you see fit.

He is very obtuse... but that doesn't negate him being correct.

 

[joko104]

Re: Zef [W:222]

As evidenced by its use on this forum, including and even especially when used by folks like yourself, it's clearly a bigoted slur.

If we don't like the use of bigoted slurs, we also have the option of calling the behavior out, just like we have the option of pointing out that their efforts to feign their preferred slur's legitimacy have failed utterly.

What do you mean with "folks like yourself" towards Removable Mind?

Claiming the approximately 1 billion women worldwide who have had abortions are "psychotic subhumans" by folks such as yourself certainly is a bigoted slur.

 

[JayDubya]

Re: Zef [W:222]

ZEF encompasses a time period, not the kid growing... just relax.

No, they're not talking about the time period, they're talking about individual organisms. Instead of "the *insert racial / gender / orientation slur here*," we have "the zef." Same irrational hatred, different target.

 

[JayDubya]

Re: Zef [W:222]

What do you mean with "folks like yourself" towards Removable Mind?

Extremist pro-aborts, the type with enough irrational bigotry to employ the use of the slur "zef."

Claiming the approximately 1 billion women worldwide who have had abortions...

Just because the server rolled back you think you can make this absolutely retarded claim unchallenged this time around or something?

I mocked it before the time warp, I mock it now. Absolute lunacy.


Furthermore, whatever the number - and yours is crazy talk, fo sho - all I can say is "What's your damage, man? Why don't you hate violent scumbags who kill innocent human beings in cold blood? Why don't you want them in prison?"

It's one thing to have an irrational hatred for human beings who have done nothing wrong, just for existing with some arbitrary characteristic you don't like, such as their age or their ethnicity...

... it's another thing entirely to want someone in prison for the violence they commit. That's rational. It's judgment, yes, but it's based on the awful actions one has committed, the harm they have inflicted, without prejudice related to their arbitrary characteristics.


Your "argument" here hinges on it being possible denotatively for one to be "bigoted" against perpetrators of aggressive violence.

 

[Scrabaholic]

Re: Zef [W:222]

51 pages and still no evidence of the acronym 'zef' being used in a bigotted way.....

 

[joko104]

Re: Zef [W:222]

Extremist pro-aborts, the type with enough irrational bigotry to employ the use of the slur "zef."



Just because the server rolled back you think you can make this absolutely retarded claim unchallenged this time around or something?

I mocked it before the time warp, I mock it now. Absolute lunacy.


Furthermore, whatever the number - and yours is crazy talk, fo sho - all I can say is "What's your damage, man? Why don't you hate violent scumbags who kill innocent human beings in cold blood? Why don't you want them in prison?"

It's one thing to have an irrational hatred for human beings who have done nothing wrong, just for existing with some arbitrary characteristic you don't like, such as their age or their ethnicity...

... it's another thing entirely to want someone in prison for the violence they commit. That's rational. It's judgment, yes, but it's based on the awful actions one has committed, the harm they have inflicted, without prejudice related to their arbitrary characteristics.


Your "argument" here hinges on it being possible denotatively for one to be "bigoted" against perpetrators of aggressive violence.

That is a very desperate attempt to change the topic any way you can rage.

 

[ecofarm]

Re: Zef [W:222]

Perhaps we could start using zef as a pejorative.


Dude, that's so zef.

or

Don't be such a zef!

 

[year2late]

Re: Zef [W:222]

Perhaps we could start using zef as a pejorative.


Dude, that's so zef.

or

Don't be such a zef!

I was thinking the opposite. I could see my self rubbing my pregnant belly and talking to Zef. Sounds kinda cute, really.

 

[ecofarm]

Re: Zef [W:222]

I was thinking the opposite. I could see my self rubbing my pregnant belly and talking to Zef. Sounds kinda cute, really.

Meh, zefs suck.

 

[year2late]

Re: Zef [W:222]

Meh, zefs suck.

I have a sonogram with my zef sucking. Which is weird because once he was born, he never sucked his thumb once. Not once.

 

[JayDubya]

Re: Zef [W:222]

51 pages and still no evidence of the acronym 'zef' being used in a bigotted way.....

I quoted you using in a hateful and bigoted manner on page 52 or 53 of this "51 page thread."

We did the time warp.

It's not hard.

"the zef is not a person"
"the zef is not a human being"
"the zef is a parasite"
"the zef has no rights"

 

[JayDubya]

Re: Zef [W:222]

That is a very desperate attempt to change the topic any way you can rage.

Absolutely pathetic, Joko.

Directly and on-point responding to your statement, its lack of logic, and its absurd claims is "changing the topic" and "raging."

In other words, you want to just driveby post such garbage since you can't back it up, so when responded to, the best you've got is distraction.

#510 is firmly in "Look at the silly monkey" territory.

Let me know when you can actually mount a logical defense of the absurd and rude things you have said, instead of the "Cochrane Defense."

 

[year2late]

Re: Zef [W:222]

Why do you hate ZEF so much?

ZEF is not a pejorative, just a statement of various stages of development.

Before we figured out a name, I used to rub my belly and call him "JEB" - we joked about calling him Jebidiah. ZEF would have been just as cute.

 

[Scrabaholic]

Re: Zef [W:222]

Why do you hate ZEF so much?

ZEF is not a pejorative, just a statement of various stages of development.

Before we figured out a name, I used to rub my belly and call him "JEB" - we joked about calling him Jebidiah. ZEF would have been just as cute.

Like I said, they still have not provided any evidence of it being used in a bigotted way - and now we are 52 pages in.

 

[JayDubya]

Re: Zef [W:222]

Like I said, they still have not provided any evidence of it being used in a bigotted way - and now we are 52 pages in.

And like I said, it has been provided, over and over, but you refuse to read it.

There are none so blind as those who refuse to see.

 

[joko104]

Re: Zef [W:222]

Absolutely pathetic, Joko.

Directly and on-point responding to your statement, its lack of logic, and its absurd claims is "changing the topic" and "raging."

In other words, you want to just driveby post such garbage since you can't back it up, so when responded to, the best you've got is distraction.

#510 is firmly in "Look at the silly monkey" territory.

Let me know when you can actually mount a logical defense of the absurd and rude things you have said, instead of the "Cochrane Defense."

Once again, you return to your textbook materials - "The Urban Dictionary." THAT is your SOLE proof - for which bizarrely you add something about child porn too.

Your "proof" is solely a porn, counter-culture and S&M terminology dictionary - and even it doesn't agree "ZEF" is a bigoted phrase.

Once again, the extreme ideological zealotry fixation of your raging messages all focused upon radical hatred of women - that your incessantly refer to as "subhumans" by a simple search of your own messages - is you furiously raging that that universities, medical labs and facilities, biologists and the Catholic Church are all bigots - because they do not agree with you and your THE URBAN DICTIONARY that "ZEF" ONLY means some African tribe. :lamo

 

[joko104]

Re: Zef [W:222]

Why do you hate ZEF so much?

ZEF is not a pejorative, just a statement of various stages of development.

Before we figured out a name, I used to rub my belly and call him "JEB" - we joked about calling him Jebidiah. ZEF would have been just as cute.

Because it isn't about ZEFs ie "unborn human babies." It is about his messages of absolute hatred of women - not just the approximately 1,000,000,000 women who had abortions in the word, but also his raging personal attacks against WOMEN WHO ARE MEMBERS OF THIS FORUM - are "pschotic," "sub-human," "cold blooded killers" who had abortions singularly for a psychotic hatred of their children.

 

[Bodi]

Re: Zef [W:222]

No, they're not talking about the time period, they're talking about individual organisms. Instead of "the *insert racial / gender / orientation slur here*," we have "the zef." Same irrational hatred, different target.

I have never seen that. People here say, "the ZEF has no rights" or "the ZEF is not a person"... I have no idea what you are seeing though.

 

[JayDubya]

Re: Zef [W:222]

Once again, you return to your textbook materials - "The Urban Dictionary." THAT is your SOLE proof - for which bizarrely you add something about child porn too.

Are you for real?


This is beyond sad.

South Park is not the Urban Dictionary. I have never referenced "The Urban Dictionary" as a legitimate source. I didn't say anything about child porn. Maybe you'd like to post about the thread topic?

Your "proof" is solely a porn, counter-culture and S&M terminology dictionary - and even it doesn't agree "ZEF" is a bigoted phrase.

Yes, Joko, that is of course not only among the supporting evidence, it is the only supporting evidence. :roll:

Uh-huh. ::screwy

You may note, since you care so much about crowdsourced internet sites, that there is currently no entry about zygotes there under "zef," why don't you go add one? You can just slap whatever definition you want down there, lord knows that's how the other stupidity got there - what's one more example?

Once again, the extreme ideological zealotry fixation of your raging messages all focused upon radical hatred of women

I'm sorry, I can't see the bizarro crazy land version of the site, you'll have to post links from bizarro Debate Politics where these things have happened.

because they do not agree with you and your THE URBAN DICTIONARY that "ZEF" ONLY means some African tribe. :lamo

I'm sorry, perhaps you can help me out here.

SURELY you, minnie616 and Scrabaholic didn't mean to make yourselves look incredibly foolish... so surely you will be forthcoming with a quote where I told you that Zef refers to "an African tribe."

Please show your work.

 

[JayDubya]

Re: Zef [W:222]

It is about his messages of absolute hatred of women

Again, I don't have access to this bizarro nonsense version of Debate Politics. Show your work - maybe you can find some kind of proxy server where people on this side can see the posts from the alternate dimension you're posting and reading from.

I wonder, does bizarro me have a goatee?

just the approximately 1,000,000,000 women who had abortions in the word

You keep saying this crazy unsourced thing. It's still crazy and unsourced.

but also his raging personal attacks against WOMEN WHO ARE MEMBERS OF THIS FORUM

Wow. Again, chief, show your work. Again, must only be in this alternate dimension Debate Politics.

 

[JayDubya]

Re: Zef [W:222]

I have never seen that. People here say, "the ZEF has no rights" or "the ZEF is not a person"...

Those are great examples of the bigotry in question.