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Bullshit. About as fallacious an argument as I've ever heard made here on DP.4. If you support the Post Office, you support environmental destruction.
Oh, I've seen worse. But it's up there.Bullshit. About as fallacious an argument as I've ever heard made here on DP.
One can support the post office and support reforms to the post office to make it more environmentally friendly.
There is no conflict there.
Yeah . . . but you've been here much, much longer than I have.Oh, I've seen worse. But it's up there.
Just sayin'.
Many leftists claim to be environmentalists, while at the same time supporting the Post Office. I say those two views are incompatible. Let's consider the environmental costs of the Post Office:
AOC...1. 90% of mail is junk mail. I own some multifamily properties, and I always have to put a garbage barrel right next to the mailboxes so the tenants can take their mail out of the box and drop it in the barrel. From there it goes to the landfill. The few letters they keep could have been sent via email, as everyone has a phone today.
2. Trees are extremely vital to the environment. They absorb CO2 which helps the climate. They also clean the air by absorbing nitrogen oxides and ozone. They create oxygen for us. They allow wildlife to flourish. They provide shade and help to prevent soil erosion. I'll stop there, but you get the idea.
Guess how many trees are destroyed every year in order to create junk mail?
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3. The Post Office has over 200,000 vehicles, which are all spewing pollution six days a week in order to deliver junk mail. Those shitboxes they drive around in get 8 mpg:
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4. If you support the Post Office, you support environmental destruction.
AOC...
The Post Office does not produce the junk mail, it just delivers it. If there was no Post Office the junk mail would still come by private delivery means.
I do not own a phone capable of receiving e-mail or online bills and nor do millions of North Americans, so tele-billing will not reach us. You want to be paid, send me a paper bill! Then I will send you a paper cheque in a paper envelope with a paper stamp on it via the post.
Are your rental properties all fully insulated and heated/cooled by environmentally-friendly and carbon-neutral energy sources? If not, then you're doing no better than the Post Office. What kind of a car do you drive? Internal combustion powered?
Let he who has not sinned cast the first stone.
Cheers and be well.
Evilroddy.
AOC...
The Post Office does not produce the junk mail, it just delivers it. If there was no Post Office the junk mail would still come by private delivery means.
No it wouldn't. Junk mail rates are far below market and are subsidized by the taxpayer. The unstated assumption is that people want junk mail, but the truth is they don't. If there were no Post Office people would simply remove their mailbox to stop the junk mail from coming.
Many leftists claim to be environmentalists, while at the same time supporting the Post Office. I say those two views are incompatible. Let's consider the environmental costs of the Post Office:
1. 90% of mail is junk mail. I own some multifamily properties, and I always have to put a garbage barrel right next to the mailboxes so the tenants can take their mail out of the box and drop it in the barrel. From there it goes to the landfill. The few letters they keep could have been sent via email, as everyone has a phone today.
2. Trees are extremely vital to the environment. They absorb CO2 which helps the climate. They also clean the air by absorbing nitrogen oxides and ozone. They create oxygen for us. They allow wildlife to flourish. They provide shade and help to prevent soil erosion. I'll stop there, but you get the idea.
Guess how many trees are destroyed every year in order to create junk mail?
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3. The Post Office has over 200,000 vehicles, which are all spewing pollution six days a week in order to deliver junk mail. Those shitboxes they drive around in get 8 mpg:
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4. If you support the Post Office, you support environmental destruction.
ttwtt78640::Hmm… yet you manage to post on DP.
AOC...No it wouldn't. Junk mail rates are far below market and are subsidized by the taxpayer. The unstated assumption is that people want junk mail, but the truth is they don't. If there were no Post Office people would simply remove their mailbox to stop the junk mail from coming.
Thank you for reminding me.Yeah . . . but you've been here much, much longer than I have.
AOC...
Wait. How would bailiffs and sheriffs serve writs and warrants on people who weren't at home?
What would be your proof that your home was your domicile? These are other important things which postal addresses determine.
There is no place in 2022 for a 1950s post office. Period.
Its like all government programs, they never go away when their day in the sun comes.
The post office is in the Constitution.
I mean don't get me wrong: I would straight up make mailing unsolicited advertisements against the law if I could.
But to blame the Post Office because a bunch of different mortgage lenders desperately want me to refinance my house is... ****in wow. You think OP blames Verizon for those car warranty spam calls too?
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