WSJ debunks O-3 Bobulinski

[roguenuke]

There would need to be more than just Burisma being hacked for all of this to be chalked up to Russian hackers. We are getting a little too deep into the CT weeds for me. I will just wait and see what, if anything, comes of it.

I'm not saying that it is absolute. I'm saying that it is certainly a possibility. But it doesn't have to be more hackers for all of the info. They could have gotten some of the emails from these other actors, even some of the other things they have, and simply compiled them into one device.

This is why we need someone neutral to examine that info, check the metadata, the download dates for this stuff.

 

[BlueTex]

The next thing we are going to here is that real estate guys can become reality tv stars.

 

[Conservative]

3.1 billion

Your compassion is staggering

 

[BlueTex]

Your compassion is staggering

Don’t worry, your free taxpayer money and healthcare will continue

 

[Overitall]

Again, assuming Joe Biden was an investor, what exactly was being whistleblown? That a private citizen was investing in a company that never came together?

That Joe lied when he said he never discussed business with his son Hunter. The whistleblower has alleged evidence supporting the accusations that Joe is the “Big Guy” slated to receive a cut from Hunter’s business dealings. That Joe’s position as VP made it possible for Hunter to make millions.

 

[Crossfire]

“You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.” – Inigo Montoya.

Good thing I do not care what you think. I know what hacking means.

 

[Conservative]

Don’t worry, your free taxpayer money and healthcare will continue

My "free healthcare"? how is Medicare Free? You have no idea what the hell you are talking about and no understanding of how Medicare is funded

 

[ttwtt78640]

My "free healthcare"? how is Medicare Free? You have no idea what the hell you are talking about and no understanding of how Medicare is funded

Medicare is not free, but is heavily subsidized.

 

[Conservative]

Medicare is not free, but is heavily subsidized.

And why is that? contributed along with my employer for 35 years never using the money, now using the program but having to purchase a supplement on top of that Medicare insurance that I paid for for 35 years

 

[Overitall]

My "free healthcare"? how is Medicare Free? You have no idea what the hell you are talking about and no understanding of how Medicare is funded

Wait just a minute. You mean all the Medicare taxes I paid was to give it for free to someone?

 

[Crossfire]

Medicare is not free, but is heavily subsidized.

I thought everything that came from the government was "free".

 

[Crossfire]

And why is that? contributed along with my employer for 35 years never using the money, now using the program but having to purchase a supplement on top of that Medicare insurance that I paid for for 35 years

For the same reason that pensions are being paid for by currently working people rather than it coming from past contributions, shitty math.

 

[tres borrachos]

Hmmm..... already falling apart...


The venture with CEFC, known as SinoHawk Holdings, was half held by Mr. Bobulinski, who served as chief executive, and four other partners—Hunter and James Biden; Rob Walker, a former Clinton administration official; and James Gilliar, a British national—according to the corporate documents reviewed by the Journal.

Text messages and emails related to the venture that were provided to the Journal by Mr. Bobulinski, mainly from the spring and summer of 2017, don’t show either Hunter Biden or James Biden discussing a role for Joe Biden in the venture.

Mr. Gilliar told the Journal: “I would like to clear up any speculation that former Vice President Biden was involved with the 2017 discussions about our potential business structure. I am unaware of any involvement at anytime of the former Vice President. The activity in question never delivered any project revenue.”

Hunter Biden’s Ex-Business Partner Alleges Father Knew About Venture

An ex-business partner of Hunter Biden said he consulted his father about a planned venture with a Chinese oil company. Joe Biden denied any involvement in the venture and corporate records reviewed by The Journal show no role for him.

www.wsj.com

Why do I give a shit about what was being emailed in 2017?

Trump and his sycophants are so desperate.

 

[roguenuke]

That Joe lied when he said he never discussed business with his son Hunter. The whistleblower has alleged evidence supporting the accusations that Joe is the “Big Guy” slated to receive a cut from Hunter’s business dealings. That Joe’s position as VP made it possible for Hunter to make millions.

Except not only did that deal not go through, a later email says that he "emphatically said no". So no money was exchanged and it could have been simply Hunter throwing his old man's name around without Joe Biden knowing about it.

Mysterious emails and convenient leaks: The Trump campaign’s Hunter Biden attacks, explained

All of a sudden, people have come out of the woodwork saying they have Hunter Biden emails.

www.vox.com

 

[digitusmedius]

So, you agree with me that it only takes one whistleblower to expose corruption. Those supporting Trump denied any wrong doing of Trump. Those supporting Biden are doing the same. Don’t worry. I doubt Biden will face impeachment.

Only problem is, there's no "whistleblower" claiming Biden did anything improper much less illegal. You need to look up the definition for that term.

 

[digitusmedius]

Except not only did that deal not go through, a later email says that he "emphatically said no". So no money was exchanged and it could have been simply Hunter throwing his old man's name around without Joe Biden knowing about it.

He didn't even need to throw his Dad's name around. Everyone knew who he was. But either way there still remains zero evidence for any of Dirtbag's many lies last night and going forward ad infinitum.

 

[SonOfDaedalus]

Does WSJ have the emails, texts and documents that Bobulinski is in the process of presenting to Congress and the Justice Department?

If not, then WSJ has debunked nothing.

But you don't care about corruption. That's why you support Trump. Why pretend that you care about corruption?

You wouldn't vote for a man who had a fake university and fake charity if you cared about corruption. You would vote for a man who refused to reveal his tax information if you cared about corruption.

I'm curious about why you pretend to care about corruption when you clearly don't.

 

[Overitall]

Only problem is, there's no "whistleblower" claiming Biden did anything improper much less illegal. You need to look up the definition for that term.

At issue is whether Joe had any influence on Hunter getting his cushy job with Burisma, among other lucrative deals while Joe was VP. Hunter’s business partner claims Joe was involved. Even had an hour long meeting with him to discuss business with him.

 

[Cardinal]

That's not necessarily so. The National Enquirer was nominated for a Pulitzer because of its investigation of "Breck Girl" John Edwards. Instead of just killing the messenger, why not look for corroboration?

"Nominated."

Whenever conservatives want to defend the credibility of tabloids, they always go back to that one expose they got right in 2008. Meanwhile, the NYTimes got the Iraqi WMD article wrong, and conservatives haven't believed that paper since.

You guys are hilarious.

 

[vegas giants]

At issue is whether Joe had any influence on Hunter getting his cushy job with Burisma, among other lucrative deals while Joe was VP. Hunter’s business partner claims Joe was involved. Even had an hour long meeting with him to discuss business with him.

Yaaaaaawn

Unproven claims

 

[roguenuke]

He didn't even need to throw his Dad's name around. Everyone knew who he was. But either way there still remains zero evidence for any of Dirtbag's many lies last night and going forward ad infinitum.

I agree he didn't have to. I'm just saying that he still may have done so.

 

[SonOfDaedalus]

At issue is whether Joe had any influence on Hunter getting his cushy job with Burisma, among other lucrative deals while Joe was VP. Hunter’s business partner claims Joe was involved. Even had an hour long meeting with him to discuss business with him.

Hunter got the job with Burisma based on his name. Lots of people are on company boards because of their famous name.

Why are you concerned about Biden doing business in foreign countries but not concerned about Trump, Ivanka, and Jared? Your concern seems less than genuine.

Why don't you care that Trump is hiding his taxes and financial documents? We don't know to whom Trump owes $400M but you don't care.

Citizens like you are why democracies fail.

 

[Overitall]

Yaaaaaawn

Unproven claims

Still having trouble locating that bug?

 

[vegas giants]

Still having trouble locating that bug?

You have bugs?

 

[Overitall]

Hunter got the job with Burisma based on his name. Lots of people are on company boards because of their famous name.

Why are you concerned about Biden doing business in foreign countries but not concerned about Trump, Ivanka, and Jared? Your concern seems less than genuine.

Why don't you care that Trump is hiding his taxes and financial documents? We don't know to whom Trump owes $400M but you don't care.

Citizens like you are why democracies fail.

Any improprieties regardless of party should be investigated. Trump was investigated since day one of his announcement of running for President. The Dems have investigated him for Russian collusion. Ukraine bribery and now for shady tax fraud. Fair game. But still they’ve failed to come up with any indictments. Turnabout is fair play. Why are you resistant to Biden being investigated?