Why do Wealthy Democrats Hate Diversity?

[Crosscheck]

The major difference being that Donald and Melania don't go around preaching the virtues of diversity, nor do they attempt to demonize others who don't live in racially diverse neighborhoods.

One tends to buy a home that is slightly at the top of their budget. So surprise to you is the fact that as you go up in available income spending you are likely to find more white home owners. That is why when the Trumps went out to buy another home they didn't go visit trailer parks. What the hell is so hard about that to grasp?

And somehow you think this is being hypocritical.

You mean, kind of like the Republicans calling themselves the party with Family Values who has a president who was bonking a porn star while his wife gave birth to his son?

:lamo

 

[Myview]

From its start, the Democratic Party has always been the party of racial segregation. That is the core premise of all their race baiting and accusations of racism - pushing for racial division and racial segregation by declaring all people are identified by race and should be kept within their racial demographic.

I'm sure you have an equally bizarre explanation as to why African Americans vote overwhelmingly Democratic. Why most of their politicians are Democrats. Why the drive to end segregation in education was Democrat led. Why the voting rights act was democrat led. Political parties don't remain static, they change. No political party treated African Americans well until they were forced to do so. Roosevelt, a Democrat began to simply treat African Americans
with some dignity during the great depression. That is all it took for them to switch allegiance to the Democratic party ever since. Democrats have to do more to earn and keep their vote. We all have a national identity as Americans no matter what our race or demographic is. Culturally we all do identify by race or nation of origin and take pride in it. Politically we also identify by race, demographic, or voting bloc....like angry old white men.

 

[Moderate Right]

That's not an answer to the question, it's just avoiding it.

Care to try again, to support the claim you made earlier?

If you can find us some similar neighborhoods (economically, security, schools, etc) that ARE diverse in the areas where they did buy, you might have a leg to stand on. Let's see it.​

I totally agree that the left are completely wrong when they say that skewed percentages of anything automatically equates to discrimination. Nice to have you on our side.

 

[Hatuey]

Since I've no interest in actually doing that, and you aren't alpha enough to say, that's a moot issue.

Lol, I have stated where I live over the years. That's the point. Multiple locations. It comes with owning homes in multiple places.

You don't know what that's like, so you built this thread to let us all know.

Keep grinding down that 9-5. The only white wonderland you're ever getting is a line of yayo to soften the pain of an impending midlife crisis.


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[Lursa]

I totally agree that the left are completely wrong when they say that skewed percentages of anything automatically equates to discrimination. Nice to have you on our side.

^^ this is nowhere to be found in my posts, so stop trying to 'look right' on the Internet. Your attempt is pathetic and obvious.

If you were able to, you would have answered my direct question with a direct answer. You cant, so you posted some fantasy you pulled out of the air...you realize that's a sign of certain mental limitations, right? Hopefully you can clear that right up by actually answering the question:

If you can find us some similar neighborhoods (economically, security, schools, etc) that ARE diverse in the areas where they did buy, you might have a leg to stand on. Let's see it?

 

[Lursa]

So answering this;

So diverse neighborhoods can't compete with non-diverse neighborhoods when it comes to 'economically, security, schools, etc'. Gotcha. Maybe the D's should stop worshipping diversity as their personal lord and savior which is going to whisk them away to Blue Party heaven by 2050 then.

I never wrote that. What's with the fantasy post? No ability to actually confront reality?

It's funny, you cant refute my argument, so you go on the defensive and try a personal attack. Ahhhhh...a true sign of weakness.

 

[truthatallcost]

I never wrote that. What's with the fantasy post? No ability to actually confront reality?

It's funny, you cant refute my argument, so you go on the defensive and try a personal attack. Ahhhhh...a true sign of weakness.

You seemed positive that no diverse neighborhoods exist which can offer the same array of amenities that wealthy white neighborhoods do. I never attacked you, just pointed out the inconsistencies in what you appear to be believe.

 

[truthatallcost]

Lol, I have stated where I live over the years. That's the point. Multiple locations. It comes with owning homes in multiple places.

You don't know what that's like, so you built this thread to let us all know.

Keep grinding down that 9-5. The only white wonderland you're ever getting is a line of yayo to soften the pain of an impending midlife crisis.


Sent from Trump Plaza's basement using Putin's MacBook.

All such exchanges with you devolve into goofy insults predicated on your desire to be rich. Which happens to supply all the answer one needs as to why you left ultra diverse California for the ultra non diverse upper northeast border region. You fancy yourself a little Donny Trump or Jerry Kushner, which is very funny considering those types wouldn't hire you to caddie for them.

 

[truthatallcost]

One tends to buy a home that is slightly at the top of their budget. So surprise to you is the fact that as you go up in available income spending you are likely to find more white home owners. That is why when the Trumps went out to buy another home they didn't go visit trailer parks. What the hell is so hard about that to grasp?

And somehow you think this is being hypocritical.

You mean, kind of like the Republicans calling themselves the party with Family Values who has a president who was bonking a porn star while his wife gave birth to his son?

:lamo

Trump was already wealthy by the time he ran for president. Obama and Clinton were middle class, and both rose to popularity from appealing to those groups who comprise the concept of 'diversity' in America. Upon leaving office, the Obamas and Clintons made it quite obvious that they had no desire to actually live amongst the diverse people who helped them both become 2 term presidents.

 

[Nickyjo]

There is something slightly absurd about the premise of this topic. Would Obama show more evidence of his love of diversity if his house was next door to Oprah’s?

 

[truthatallcost]

Just because they live in upscale neighborhoods is not proof of the Dems hatred of diversity. Is that all you have, kinda of a slow day so you make your own assumptions?

See LA Times article in OP.

 

[yankintx]

See LA Times article in OP.

Uhm I did read it, and stand by my post.

 

[The Mark]

*snip*

Because slavery and then institutionalized racism embedded literal centuries of a head-start into the system. White land-owners, who generations later are the majority of rich and elite as a result, don't like mixing with their lessers, and so are in rich enclaves.

It's less racism and more economic class-ism.

The few minorities who beat the odds and are in the same class aren't there because they dislike minorities, but rather because it's where people of their class live.

 

[Kobie]

Maybe like some of the lily white neighborhoods in Utah? Those are bastions of liberalism for sure.

You mean the entire state?

 

[CaptainCourtesy]

I think most people who object to my OP never bothered reading the link I included, which contains an article written by a progressive professor, who is trying to convince other white progressives to stop fleeing from diversity, and taking their resources with them.

You want to have a hypothetical discussion about how it's possible to support diversity without living around it, but I'm not the guy to debate hypotheticals with you. People who truly love diversity will live amongst it. Those who recite cliches about diversity because it's the 'right way' to think are not going to seek diversity in their lives.

You wouldn't be able to handle either a hypothetical or a realistic discussion on diversity because you prefer to use partisan foolishness as debate tactics rather than logic or actual information. It does not surprise me that you cannot respond to anything I've said in this thread. You aren't capable as it is the antithesis of the false theme of which you operate from. You don't get to decide what supporting diversity means for anyone else or what it means in an objective way.

So, are you now content with having your thread premise as shown to be a complete failure, or are you itching for that failure to be taken to another level?

 

[JoanDavis]

Where one lives has zero to do with whether or not one supports diversity.

/thread.

THANK YOU Captain Courtesy. Finally a really sensible and intelligent post.

 

[ecofarm]

You don't get to decide what supporting diversity means for anyone else or what it means in an objective way.

/thread

 

[Lursa]

You seemed positive that no diverse neighborhoods exist which can offer the same array of amenities that wealthy white neighborhoods do. I never attacked you, just pointed out the inconsistencies in what you appear to be believe.

Oh please you tried denigrating my character instead of my information.

And now you tried another technique...instead of answering my question, you turn it around on me.

I didnt 'positively' claim anything...I asked you to show me. And you cant.

Instead, you implied such neighborhoods dont exist because minorities dont achieve the means to develop such communities for themselves.

 

[truthatallcost]

You wouldn't be able to handle either a hypothetical or a realistic discussion on diversity because you prefer to use partisan foolishness as debate tactics rather than logic or actual information. It does not surprise me that you cannot respond to anything I've said in this thread. You aren't capable as it is the antithesis of the false theme of which you operate from. You don't get to decide what supporting diversity means for anyone else or what it means in an objective way.

I didn't follow you down the patented CC rabbit hole earlier in the thread, so now you come back with this. So I'll only address the bold text I've selected- it's possible to think you support something as a way of appeasing your conscience, when you really don't. Those that aren't bull****ting about loving diversity will live around. The rest will write a check and expect the lower income brackets to live amongst it.

So, are you now content with having your thread premise as shown to be a complete failure, or are you itching for that failure to be taken to another level?

That's too vague to decipher. What'd ya have in mind cc? And by the way, the poll results align with what I believe about phony bologna libs & progressives who preach diversity from the safety of their lily white gated communities, so this thread is hardly a failure now, is it?

 

[truthatallcost]

Oh please you tried denigrating my character instead of my information.

And now you tried another technique...instead of answering my question, you turn it around on me.

I didnt 'positively' claim anything...I asked you to show me. And you cant.

Instead, you implied such neighborhoods dont exist because minorities dont achieve the means to develop such communities for themselves.

I lived up to my end of the bargain. Can you address this now?

Americans Say They Like Diverse Communities; Election, Census Trends Suggest Otherwise.

This preference for diverse communities is greater among Democrats, liberals, college graduates, blacks and secular Americans than it is among the population as a whole. But virtually all major groups, at least to some degree, choose diversity over homogeneity when asked where they would like to live.

Despite these pro-diversity attitudes, however, American communities appear to have grown more politically and economically homogenous in recent decades, according to analyses of election returns and U.S. Census data.

All of these survey findings raise an obvious question: Is the public’s generally strong preference for diverse communities to be taken at face value, or might it be based in part on respondents choosing the answers they deem to be socially desirable?"


Americans Say They Like Diverse Communities; Election, Census Trends Suggest Otherwise | Pew Research Center

 

[MSgt]

From its start, the Democratic Party has always been the party of racial segregation. That is the core premise of all their race baiting and accusations of racism - pushing for racial division and racial segregation by declaring all people are identified by race and should be kept within their racial demographic.

Unfortunately, there's this thing called the "alt-Right," which is full of white supremacists and Nazi-wannabes, which exists comfortably on the conservative side of the political spectrum, not the Liberal side.

And, of course, Republicans have a history of rigging elections by identifying race. In 2013, the U.S. Supreme Court once again declined to reinstate North Carolina's strict voter ID law, which was struck down in 2012 after a court ruled that it was intentionally designed to stop African-Americans from voting. In its ruling, the appeals court said the law was intentionally designed to discriminate against black people. North Carolina's GOP-led congress had requested data on voting patterns by race and, with that data in hand, drafted a law that would "target African-Americans with almost surgical precision," the court said.


This current fad among conservatives to re-brand racism only works among other conservatives who wish to ignore the inconvenient stormtroopers in the room. So do you see how what you just declared was...wrong?

 

[rickc]

kind of.funny to me when republicans try to hang discrimination on democrats. Just compare our republican and democrat representatives in congress.

yes the democrats were the party of jim crow after the war of northern agression. and the republicans the party of Lincoln was the progressive party at that time.

now johnson the civil rights act of 1964, voting rights act of 1965 and integration of the schools.changed all of that. Nixons Southern strategy put the nail in the coffin. The parties reversed roles.

 

[Hatuey]

All such exchanges with you devolve into goofy insults predicated on your desire to be rich. Which happens to supply all the answer one needs as to why you left ultra diverse California for the ultra non diverse upper northeast border region. You fancy yourself a little Donny Trump or Jerry Kushner, which is very funny considering those types wouldn't hire you to caddie for them.

Are New York State and DC not diverse enough for you? Lol, do the Obamas have to live in Bagdad Louisiana for you to believe they really really mean it?

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[Hatuey]

All such exchanges with you devolve into goofy insults predicated on your desire to be rich. Which happens to supply all the answer one needs as to why you left ultra diverse California for the ultra non diverse upper northeast border region. You fancy yourself a little Donny Trump or Jerry Kushner, which is very funny considering those types wouldn't hire you to caddie for them.

I fancy myself a Donny Trump or Jerry Kushner? Lmao, no, I wouldn't dirty my hands renting and scamming people for a few extra thousand dollars like Trump and Kushner do. Thats your non-management mentality talking. If a person owns real estate they must be someone's landlord is how people end up paying rent, instead of a mortgage. I'm betting you're still on rent payments.

Anyways, where do I live TAAC? What white haven do I live in?



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[Lursa]

I lived up to my end of the bargain. Can you address this now?

Americans Say They Like Diverse Communities; Election, Census Trends Suggest Otherwise.

This preference for diverse communities is greater among Democrats, liberals, college graduates, blacks and secular Americans than it is among the population as a whole. But virtually all major groups, at least to some degree, choose diversity over homogeneity when asked where they would like to live.

Despite these pro-diversity attitudes, however, American communities appear to have grown more politically and economically homogenous in recent decades, according to analyses of election returns and U.S. Census data.

All of these survey findings raise an obvious question: Is the public’s generally strong preference for diverse communities to be taken at face value, or might it be based in part on respondents choosing the answers they deem to be socially desirable?"


Americans Say They Like Diverse Communities; Election, Census Trends Suggest Otherwise | Pew Research Center

No, you didnt answer my question:

Are there "parallel" diverse communities with the same things the Obamas and all the others you mentioned available to them to choose from? (And I listed the things many people of means look for in a community)

And here's the follow up: if not, then why should they give up living in homes and communities that DO provide their preferences?

Hey, I completely support a woman's' right to choose: does that mean I have to have on e if I get pregnant? (You know, at least one, to show I really really support it? :roll

I am a big supporter of literacy programs: do I need to stop reading to 'legitimately' be concerned and have your blessing as a 'supporter?'

If the environment is a high priority cause for a couple, do they have to give up their suburban or city home or do they have to move out to the woods?​

Your arguments have so many wholes in them they belong on a sandwich.