Why did we win?

[Rhakron90]

Where are the major progressive lightning rods that didnt get elected in 2020?

AOC? Tlaib? Omar? Bernie? Warren?

Where exactly is it that "centrist" (i.e. corporate Democrats) are winning? Florida?

Radical Democrats winning again with the radical constituencies which elected them in the first place (and relatively recently, at that), means exactly nothing.

 

[Hatuey]

Radical Democrats winning again with the radical constituencies which elected them in the first place (and relatively recently, at that), means exactly nothing.

Lmao, yeah, radical places like the Bronx and Minnesota.

Your posts are goofy.

 

[Lucky 1]

Read this...maybe it will sink in.

Trump Wants to Steal the Election by Disenfranchising Thousands of Black Voters

The Republican strategy has been on display in Michigan, Wisconsin, and Pennsylvania—all states that Trump won in 2016 but which Biden carried in 2020.

www.vanityfair.com

Your source is Vanity Fair???? HAHAHAHAHA!!!!! ROTFLMAO!!!! What bullshit!

 

[Rhakron90]

Lmao, yeah, radical places like the Bronx and Minnesota.

Your posts are goofy.

Ummm... Yeah, "radical places" like NYC, and Minneapolis. Its not at all surprising that a couple of radical Socialists would win in two of the most deep blue districts, in the most deep blue cities, in the most deep blue states in the whole country.

 

[grip]

I think what's really scary is how 'close' Trump came to winning with > a covid pandemic. The vehement left may not have the fervent support they envisioned, Pelosi definitely overplayed her hand.

 

[Rhakron90]

I think what's really scary is how 'close' Trump came to winning with > a covid pandemic. The vehement left may not have the fervent support they envisioned, Pelosi definitely overplayed her hand.

Having literal Marxist/Anarchist jackboots rampaging across large swaths of major American cities for six months on end tends to have that effect.

 

[TurtleDude]

Just because poor black people who are uneducated and vote Democratic are a big segment of the black community doesn't mean there aren't still more poor uneducated white people who vote Republican. Raw numbers, I mean. You know why this is so. Poor black people know that whites who advocate on their behalf are likely liberals (leftists, anyway) and poor white people often identify as conservative mostly because they see wealthy, powerful conservatives as being intelligent and want to appear intelligent themselves by agreeing with them. There's also that famous LBJ quote at work. I think it was LBJ.

I agree with most of that save your view on poor whites. most presidential elections, drop outs of both races have favored the Democrats. The shift has been because the Democrats are no longer perceived to be representative of working folks with conservative social values

 

[trouble13]

I don't need to create a fantasy world or worship a golden calf (or in this case, an orange pig) to be content and secure in my beliefs.

So secure that you feel compelled to disrespect people who don't believe in the same brand of nonsense as you.

 

[MaryP]

We're never going to move forward as a nation when a third of our population believes this kinda nonsense. It's impossible for a country to flourish dragging that much dead weight.

We're never again going to be what we were.

Maybe we can ignore them after January 20? They might get sick of being ignored.

 

[MaryP]

No, not because of Trump. If you noticed, I never mentioned Trump. The problem isn't Trump, he's a symptom rather than the illness. The problem is the people. A third of our population believes this conspiracy theory bullshit about a stolen election. They've abandoned even the pretense of believing in our system of elections. How can a republic survive when so many of its voters fundamentally don't believe in it anymore?

Avoid it as soon as possible and start engaging them WITHOUT INSULTS in the policies you want to see enacted and why. Distraction to real dialogue is the way to extinguish this fire.

 

[Rhakron90]

I agree with most of that save your view on poor whites. most presidential elections, drop outs of both races have favored the Democrats. The shift has been because the Democrats are no longer perceived to be representative of working folks with conservative social values

Democrats literally do not care about the white working class... Like, at all. They throw minorities "a bone" here and there to keep them "on the plantation," and putting "Ds" on ballots, but that's really about the extent of their care in that department as well.

The modern DNC is, first and foremost, the party of the white, college educated, upper and upper middle class, and their children who aspire towards the same, primarily in the bigger cities, and especially on the coasts.

You tell those people literally anything about the negative effects their desired policies tend to have on "Small Town USA," or the people living and working there, all you're liable to get are blank stares and crickets. Hell! You might even get a few chuckles, because the "well off and snooty" who make up the core of the DNC's base secretly kind of believes that the working class is nothing but "white trash," and deserves what they're getting anyway.

So, yeah... Of freaking course the white working class votes Republican. The Republicans, at least, pretend to care.

 

[MaryP]

Isn't it amazing that when COVID and other crisis would normally help incumbents (just like with COVID helping incumbents around the world), it actually made matters WORSE for Trump.

This shows once again why COVID mutated to being Trump Virus in this country.

He was supposed to benefit from this but he did so bad he suffered for it at the polls.

In short, I agree with @lwf:

He gambled on putting the well being of the economy first, and it didn't work. He's a billionnairre businessman, right? Of course he's going to put the economy first. People kinda liked his economy until Covid came steamrolling over his plans.

 

[Geoist]

So secure that you feel compelled to disrespect people who don't believe in the same brand of nonsense as you.

I have no respect for anyone so consumed in their cultist hivemind that they actively put others in danger.

 

[trouble13]

I have no respect for anyone so consumed in their cultist hivemind that they actively put others in danger.

don't expect to get any given to you either, you don't deserve any

 

[Geoist]

Democrats literally do not care about the white working class... Like, at all. They throw minorities "a bone" here and there to keep them "on the plantation," but that's really about the extent of their care in that department as well.

The modern DNC is, first and foremost, the party of the white, college educated, upper middle class, and their children who aspire towards the same, primarily in the bigger cities, and especially on the coasts.

You tell those people literally anything about the negative effects their desired policies tend to have on "Small Town USA," or the people living and working there, all you're liable to get are blank stares and crickets. Hell! You might even get a few chuckles, because the "well off and snooty" who make up the core of the DNC's base secretly kind of believes that the working class is nothing but "white trash," and deserves what they're getting anyway.

So, yeah... Of freaking course the white working class votes Republican. The Republicans, at least, pretend to care.

The 'White Trash' would be those engulfed who preach how minorities are stealing from the government... while pumping out more babies to get a fatter welfare check. They are the hypocrites and the intolerant (of minorities, gays, other religions, etc). Being blue collar working class does not in itself deserve derision. They should be earning a living wage while being supported by a strong union. They should have solid healthcare. They should be protected when a mining company knowingly pollutes their community and refuses to take responsibility. Yes, the Democratic Party has lost its way pretty much since the Clinton Presidency but nobody should pretend for a second the GOP elites respect the working class.

 

[Geoist]

don't expect to get any given to you either, you don't deserve any

And why should I care what an Info Wars-consuming tin-foil hat-wearer thinks?

 

[Luce]

This is where we are now.

 

[911Sparky]

"If you consider reporting what Trump did"
Not sure if this is right, Trump isn't a reporter.

"Many of us however think reporting on the presidents daily tweets and statements are news worthy of reporting. "
Meh. From my observation the only time Trump's Tweets are being reported is when they can be vended into an attack on him or his administration. Must be terrible that there isn't nearly enough other news of note or importance that so much time and energies are expended here, on the attacks.
Such time and energies expended lend credibility that the 'news' media (political propaganda) have a self appointed mission to gaslight against Trump and his administration.

I did not imply Trump is a reporter, I responded to a post that said Trump was attacked by the media, hence my response that reporting on what he does and says is news. If we aren't supposed to hear about his tweets, why would he bother tweeting? Reporting on his tweets is not propaganda, it is covering the activities of the president, and you can bet if Biden spends his days tweeting and golfing that same press will take him to task.

 

[Rhakron90]

The 'White Trash' would be those engulfed who preach how minorities are stealing from the government... while pumping out more babies to get a fatter welfare check. They are the hypocrites and the intolerant (of minorities, gays, other religions, etc). Being blue collar working class does not in itself deserve derision. They should be earning a living wage while being supported by a strong union. They should have solid healthcare. They should be protected when a mining company knowingly pollutes their community and refuses to take responsibility. Yes, the Democratic Party has lost its way pretty much since the Clinton Presidency but nobody should pretend for a second the GOP elites respect the working class.

Yes, yes, yes... We're all well aware of the "talking points" big city Leftist technocrats like to use.

The actual reality of the situation, is that Left Wing economics, more often than not, kill jobs and prosperity in the heartland. That economic destruction is only going to ramp up if we get back on the Paris Accords, or (God forbid) go "all in" on something like the Green New Deal.

I'm sorry, but most people don't find the prospect on being put "on the dole," in lieu of actually working for a living, to be all that enticing. Expanded welfare entitlements are only really attractive to people who never had anything to begin with, and never thought they would... Not those who have lost everything.

 

[trouble13]

And why should I care what an Info Wars-consuming tin-foil hat-wearer thinks?

Ask me that question after you have been assaulted or your property has been vandalized because you have a different opinion.

 

[Felis Leo]

Where are the major progressive lightning rods that didnt get elected in 2020?

AOC? Tlaib? Omar? Bernie? Warren?

Every figure that Democrats claim they lose because of was reelected.

Where exactly is it that "centrist" (i.e. corporate) Democrats are winning?

Lmao, yeah, radical places like the Bronx and Minnesota.

Your posts are goofy.

Is it your contention that the reason those Democratic candidates who lost in those districts lost because they were not far-left enough? Were any of the seats won by far-left progressive Democrats (see: The Squad) won in purple swing-districts, where Democrats polled ahead by razor-thin margins? Because from everything that I have seen, the districts those far-left progressive Democrats won in were in deep sapphire-blue districts. The districts that Nancy Pelosi said where a glass of water would win so long as there was a "D" written on it.

 

[Hatuey]

Is it your contention that the reason those Democratic candidates who lost in those districts lost because they were not far-left enough?

My contention is clearly stated. The claim that "far left" democrats in another state made corporate "centrist" Democrats loose is nonsense. Democrats are winning in states they never dreamed of, and they are doing while having "far left" democrats elected literally all over the country.

 

[Hatuey]

Ummm... Yeah, "radical places" like NYC, and Minneapolis. Its not at all surprising that a couple of radical Socialists would win in two of the most deep blue districts, in the most deep blue cities, in the most deep blue states in the whole country.

Lmao, yes, we know, the "radicals" are the majority that didnt vote for your preferred party in "radical" places like Arizona and Missouri.

Lmao. So goofy.

 

[Mr Person]

I don't disagree with those above who've said Trump would have had a much greater chance of re-election if he hadn't been tested by COVID and found wanting. But it's perplexing in that this implies a fair number of Americans couldn't tell that Trump would fail (catastrophically, even) any major leadership test until they had witnessed it.

It's only perplexing if you give your fellow citizens more credit than they deserve. There's a whole lotta stupid out there, and perhaps even more dishonesty on top.

 

[Vadinho]

According to recent Trump lawyers claims, we won because there is a vast conspiracy among a select group of large city elections officials to subvert the elections and only count Biden votes. Or we won because Cuba, China and Venezuela all cooperated in software that switched votes from Trump to Biden. Or we won because millions of illegals voted for Biden risking felony convictions. Or we won because all the votes were not counted by midnight of the election date. Or we won because George Soros got Antifa and BLM to manufacture ballots in secret basements. Or we won because the USPS has been throwing Trump ballots away after opening them and delivering Biden ballots. Or we won because the nation is sick and tired of Trump and his band of criminals, liars, grifters and snakes. Only one of these sentences is factually correct.