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Who is the Greatest President in your life time and why?

vegas giants said:
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The Reagan administration's unbelievable response to the HIV/AIDS epidemic

It's very upsetting.
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The opinion from the Vox shouldn't be taken as gospel. Regan did quietly support legislation. He just wasn't public about it as it was rather unpopular with conservatives. Remember, gay men and intravenous drug users were the largest groups contracting it. AIDS can be contracted by vaginal intercourse, but the vagina is much more resilient to resisting it than transission via anal sex. Aids was new in the 81, and not till after he was president Too little was known about it. Research was funded by congress and signed by him starting in 1983. HIV weasn't connected to AIDS until 1983. The military personnel under Reagan were required to be tested.

Here is a speech he gave regarding AIDS in 1987:



Here's another:

 
Sweden said:
I was reacting to your claim - not limited to the US - that tax cuts do not cause deficits and never have.
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Yes and that reality remains, FIT and CIT fund specific items not SS and Medicare
 
phoenix2020 said:
Role of the federal government. Next question?
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Sorry, but WRONG, that isn't the role of the Federal gov't, whose only role is to PROVIDE for the Common defense and PROMOTE Domestic Welfare, Healthcare is a personal responsibility issue and that isn't in the Constitution
 
Antiwar said:
With respect:

Reagan was a political criminal. And he created much of the debt crisis by being the aggressor in the Cold War. That's one of the main reasons why we're currently more threatened with nuclear war than we've ever been.

Conservatives love political criminal daddy figures as president.
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So why don't you post the data supporting your claim? When Reagan left office the debt was 2.6 trillion with a 5.2 trillion dollar economy, He added 1.7 trillion to the debt in 8 years. Clinton 1.4 trillion in 8 and Obama 9.3 trillion in 8 so please stop letting the left make a fool out of you
 
This is hard. I’d have to say Obama as his domestic policies and handling of the economy were better than most presidents. His foreign policy was fine…but not as good as Reagan’s…keeping in mind that Reagan’s domestic policies left much to be desired for and his economic policies affected the rich more than anyone else. Plus he was a believer in the unsuccessful theory of trickle-down.

Side Note: I think Truman was one of our best presidents.
 
Obama definitely.
 
Jason Warfield said:
This is hard. I’d have to say Obama as his domestic policies and handling of the economy were better than most presidents. His foreign policy was fine…but not as good as Reagan’s…keeping in mind that Reagan’s domestic policies left much to be desired for and his economic policies affected the rich more than anyone else. Plus he was a believer in the unsuccessful theory of trickle-down.

Side Note: I think Truman was one of our best presidents.
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Wow talk about partisan jibberish, Truman said the Buck stopped at the WH, Obama said the Buck never got to the WH
 
Lord of Planar said:
Yes yes yes. Google gives the most popular links, and liberals scour the internet for reason of hate, far more than conservatives do. That doesn't mean it's true. How many of those are good solid factual links?

I miss Alta Vista.
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That's nice


Reagan did nothing during the aids crisis
 
TearItAllDown said:
I'm gonna' have to go with Joe Biden, Mr. 81 Million Votes and most popular politician ever. No one has had such a tremenous impact on changing the course of America is less than 2 years. Under Trump the country was falling into the abyss because of his mean tweets. Many people died of covid under Trump and then Biden singlehandedly saved everyone from certain death. He has created so many high paying skilled jobs in record time. He brought stability and love back to the US. I say put a small statue of him next to the George Floyd statue. Smaller of course, because no one could ever match the contribution to the world that George Floyd gave us. Let's be reasonable.
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Good satire - I bet there will be many who do not recognise it as such.
 
Lord of Planar said:
The opinion from the Vox shouldn't be taken as gospel. Regan did quietly support legislation. He just wasn't public about it as it was rather unpopular with conservatives. Remember, gay men and intravenous drug users were the largest groups contracting it. AIDS can be contracted by vaginal intercourse, but the vagina is much more resilient to resisting it than transission via anal sex. Aids was new in the 81, and not till after he was president Too little was known about it. Research was funded by congress and signed by him starting in 1983. HIV weasn't connected to AIDS until 1983. The military personnel under Reagan were required to be tested.

Here is a speech he gave regarding AIDS in 1987:



Here's another:

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Six years too late
 
Conservative said:
So why don't you post the data supporting your claim? When Reagan left office the debt was 2.6 trillion with a 5.2 trillion dollar economy, He added 1.7 trillion to the debt in 8 years. Clinton 1.4 trillion in 8 and Obama 9.3 trillion in 8 so please stop letting the left make a fool out of you
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With respect:

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During Reagan's presidency, the federal debt held by the public nearly tripled in nominal terms, from $738 billion to $2.1 trillion. This led to the U.S. moving from the world's largest international creditor to the world's largest debtor nation.



A chart that shows that the Reagan administration started the increase in federal debt:

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Another quote:

Size of federal government​

The federal government's share of GDP increased 0.2 percentage points under Reagan, while it decreased 1.5 percentage points during the preceding eight years. The number of federal civilian employees increased 4.2% during Reagan's eight years, compared to 6.5% during the preceding eight years.

As a candidate, Reagan asserted he would shrink government by abolishing the Cabinet-level departments of energy and education. He abolished neither, but elevated veterans affairs from independent agency status to Cabinet-level department status.



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Reaganomics - Wikipedia

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TearItAllDown said:
I'm gonna' have to go with Joe Biden, Mr. 81 Million Votes and most popular politician ever. No one has had such a tremenous impact on changing the course of America is less than 2 years. Under Trump the country was falling into the abyss because of his mean tweets. Many people died of covid under Trump and then Biden singlehandedly saved everyone from certain death. He has created so many high paying skilled jobs in record time. He brought stability and love back to the US. I say put a small statue of him next to the George Floyd statue. Smaller of course, because no one could ever match the contribution to the world that George Floyd gave us. Let's be reasonable.
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Perfect!
 
vegas giants said:
Six years too late
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You don't follow very well, do you.

AIDS wasn't known until after he took the presidency, and wasn't linked to HIV until 1983, and he supported legislation starting then. Medical advances were still not close to what we have today, and they did the best they could.

You should stop letting your partisan hatred guide you.
 
Antiwar said:
With respect:

Quote:

During Reagan's presidency, the federal debt held by the public nearly tripled in nominal terms, from $738 billion to $2.1 trillion. This led to the U.S. moving from the world's largest international creditor to the world's largest debtor nation.



A chart that shows that the Reagan administration started the increase in federal debt:

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Another quote:

Size of federal government​

The federal government's share of GDP increased 0.2 percentage points under Reagan, while it decreased 1.5 percentage points during the preceding eight years. The number of federal civilian employees increased 4.2% during Reagan's eight years, compared to 6.5% during the preceding eight years.

As a candidate, Reagan asserted he would shrink government by abolishing the Cabinet-level departments of energy and education. He abolished neither, but elevated veterans affairs from independent agency status to Cabinet-level department status.



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Reaganomics - Wikipedia

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Yes but there is more to it than that, we had double dip inflation and the amount of debt was still 1.7 trillion vs. Obama's 9.3 trillion. None of that resonates with the left. Clinton's was 1.4 trillion with very low interest rates
 
Lord of Planar said:
You don't follow very well, do you.

AIDS wasn't known until after he took the presidency, and wasn't linked to HIV until 1983, and he supported legislation starting then. Medical advances were still not close to what we have today, and they did the best they could.

You should stop letting your partisan hatred guide you.
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Read slowly. I got a lot more

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Ronald Reagan Presided Over 89,343 Deaths to AIDS and Did Nothing

Ronald Reagan has a lot to account for: the early AIDS epidemic unleashed more stigmatization of gay men than any other event in the history of gay life in America, and Ronald Reagan presided as pr…
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Conservative said:
Yes but there is more to it than that, we had double dip inflation and the amount of debt was still 1.7 trillion vs. Obama's 9.3 trillion. None of that resonates with the left. Clinton's was 1.4 trillion with very low interest rates
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Say what? You're trying to justify Reagan's dramatic increase of federal debt (mainly to build nuclear weapons) by mentioning debt that came decades later.

And you mentioned double-dip inflation for what reason?
 
Antiwar said:
With respect:

Quote:

During Reagan's presidency, the federal debt held by the public nearly tripled in nominal terms, from $738 billion to $2.1 trillion. This led to the U.S. moving from the world's largest international creditor to the world's largest debtor nation.



A chart that shows that the Reagan administration started the increase in federal debt:

View attachment 67397642



Another quote:

Size of federal government​

The federal government's share of GDP increased 0.2 percentage points under Reagan, while it decreased 1.5 percentage points during the preceding eight years. The number of federal civilian employees increased 4.2% during Reagan's eight years, compared to 6.5% during the preceding eight years.

As a candidate, Reagan asserted he would shrink government by abolishing the Cabinet-level departments of energy and education. He abolished neither, but elevated veterans affairs from independent agency status to Cabinet-level department status.



en.wikipedia.org

Reaganomics - Wikipedia

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Anyone who doesn't understand compounding interest from Carters double-digit inflation will easily be fooled by that.

The chart is a flat out lie anyway. The national debt continued to rise in 1993 to 2000 under Clinton.

Year Millions
1977 706,398
1978 776,602
1979 829,467
1980 909,041
1981 994,828
1982 1,137,315
1983 1,371,660
1984 1,564,586
1985 1,817,423
1986 2,120,501
1987 2,345,956
1988 2,601,104
1989 2,867,800
1990 3,206,290
1991 3,598,178
1992 4,001,787
1993 4,351,044
1994 4,643,307
1995 4,920,586
1996 5,181,465
1997 5,369,206
1998 5,478,189
1999 5,605,523
2000 5,628,700
2001 5,769,881
2002 6,198,401
2003 6,760,014
2004 7,354,657
2005 7,905,300
2006 8,451,350
2007 8,950,744
2008 9,986,082
2009 11,875,851
2010 13,528,807
2011 14,764,222
2012 16,050,921
2013 16,719,434
2014 17,794,483
2015 18,120,106
2016 19,539,450
2017 20,205,704
2018 21,462,277
2019 22,669,466
2020 26,902,455
2021 28,385,562

 
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Antiwar said:
With respect:

Say what? You're trying to justify Reagan's dramatic increase of federal debt (mainly to build nuclear weapons) by mentioning debt that came decades later.

And you mentioned double-dip inflation for what reason?
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Yes because context matters, would you increase debt to create almost 17 million jobs and double the GDP coming off historic high inflation and double digit misery index? Any idea what percentage of Debt that was to GDP and what it is now? Context matters so tell me what is the debt service on 1.7 trillion debt vs. Obama's 9.3 trillion debt? you latch onto an issue the left tells you is bad and stick to it. I would take that every day 17 million jobs, Double the GDP and inflation dropping well under 5% from historic highs
 
Lord of Planar said:
Anyone who doesn't understand compounding interest from Carters double-digit inflation will easily be fooled by that.

The chart is a flat out lie anyway. The national debt continued to rise in 1988 to 2000 under Clinton.

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With respect:

Say what? You're trying to blame Reagan's tax and spend on nuclear weapons policy on "Carter's" double-digit inflation?


"The chart is a lie" because national debt continued? Say what? By the way, that chart represents the federal deficit, not federal debt.


Are you also going to try to blame Carter for Reagan's many very criminal scandals?

Scandals of the Ronald Reagan administration - Wikipedia

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Antiwar said:
with respect:

Say what? You're trying to blame Reagan's tax and spend on nuclear weapons policy on "Carter's" double-digit inflation?


"The chart is a lie" because national debt continued? Say what?


Are you also going to try to blame Carter for Reagan's many very criminal scandals?

Scandals of the Ronald Reagan administration - Wikipedia

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I gave the white house numbers.

Wikipedia is untrustworthy on any issue that is contentious.

Where is the source data for that chart?
 
Antiwar said:
with respect:

Say what? You're trying to blame Reagan's tax and spend on nuclear weapons policy on "Carter's" double-digit inflation?


"The chart is a lie" because national debt continued? Say what?


Are you also going to try to blame Carter for Reagan's many very criminal scandals?

Scandals of the Ronald Reagan administration - Wikipedia

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What part of post 71 don't you understand. You think tripling the debt to 2.6 trillion dollars is worse than doubling the debt to 19.5 trillion? Do you know what debt service is and do we pay it on percentage increase or dollars? Come on, stop think!!
 
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