That guy sides with those that have murdered liberal protesters, and he isn't shy about his anarchistic, white supremacist rhetoric. That's quite enough for me. If you are not sure if he is for real, how do you know I am, and why bother to point out anything to me? I don't get this approach.K! I think I understand. A secular humanist, if you wish to label me, I'm slow to pigeonhole. I do, if interested enough, try to probe beneath the surface for the actual reason(s)/motivation behind statements. I do not know the person behind a ;handle' on this site. I cannot be sure if the person's statements are 'true' beliefs, trolling, satire or what have you. Thus, I normally suspend judgment.
Regards, stay safe 'n well.
The whole point of Shaft is that he’s black. Some stories require a certain nationality/culture/race. There’s plenty of ehite private detective stuff. Shaft is shaft because he’s a black PI.
Bond is a British spy and his main attribute besides being british is his refined taste. Gorgeous women, nice cars, well dressed etc. Idris Elba would be the best bond since Connery
That guy sides with those that have murdered liberal protesters, and he isn't shy about his anarchistic, white supremacist rhetoric. That's quite enough for me. If you are not sure if he is for real, how do you know I am, and why bother to point out anything to me? I don't get this approach.
Scotsman or at least of Scottish roots.Bond is also white!
That's the whole point of Bond, is that he was created by the author to be a white Englishman.......................
Samuel L. Jackson, under sufficient layers of white-facing, could probably do it.I wouldn't want to see a white guy playing Shaft! It wouldn't be the same!
Bond is also white!
That's the whole point of Bond, is that he was created by the author to be a white Englishman....................... exactly the same as Shaft was created
by his author to be a black PI!
I wouldn't want to see a white guy playing Shaft! It wouldn't be the same!
Geordi Laforge is was not written as a black character and could have been played by a white, chinese, black, green actoryou have got to be kidding me , this is why the social agenda stuff is so stupid. James Bond is James Bond. why would I want Geordi laforge in star trek TNG to be white? why would I want Worf in star trek to be white?? why would i want picard to be black? I would not, because the continuity of the series is important to be able to GET INTO and understand the brilliance of the characters and their stories! should a new person play Kirk every week? no ? why not? because then IT IS NOT Kirk is it? its some different person doing kirk every week.
sure you can change it up , but it ruins the continuity and thus the setting. there is no need for it, other than some ignorant attempt to change the story for the purpose of social justice.
that is also PRECISELY why it does not catch on. but here you go, it will be marked up to 'racism' of course if it flops.
Why is James Bond white? What about his character that requires him to be white? If you were asked randomly to mention james bond attributes would “white” even be mentioned? I’d say british, spy, martini’s shaken not stirred, tux.Bond is also white!
That's the whole point of Bond, is that he was created by the author to be a white Englishman....................... exactly the same as Shaft was created
by his author to be a black PI!
I wouldn't want to see a white guy playing Shaft! It wouldn't be the same!
Why is James Bond white? What about his character that requires him to be white? If you were asked randomly to mention james bond attributes would “white” even be mentioned? I’d say british, spy, martini’s shaken not stirred, tux.
If someone told me to list shaft’s attributes the first would be “black”.
I mean, if a black Bond wore more casual clothes and drank gin and juice and tried to change the char to some stereotype black person Id think “this is garbage”. If Idris Elba is in a tux kicking ass and taking names and finishing it off with a martini I’d think “he’s a great james bond”.
A black 1950's member of Britain's MI6, kind of like this guy as depicted by the character's creator, Ian Fleming:
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Looks just like Huck's friend, Jim.
What is acting white?Lets all get something straight.
Bond is a fictional character that works for a factual entity (MI6). We know that that factual entity employs people of all kinds of racial and ethnic backgrounds. They do so because the idea that a lily white agent is going to embed himself is a middle east based organization is just a joke. We also know that based on the number of supposed missions that Bond went on, its highly unlikely that one man was responsible for having accomplished all of them.
Ive always seen each actor who played Bond as a different iteration of the code name and not a continuation of the first screen instance played by Connery. Think about it....Bond somehow ALWAYS appears to be mid 40s in age no matter which mission hes on. It would be impossible for one person to have that kind of mission schedule in reality.
When viewed through a common sense lens, this is all much ado about nothing.
Hi!
I doubt that I would have a problem after the first recognition of the situation. Each of us have individual reactions to things. As an example, I'm unable to enjoy TV sit-coms. The canned laughter's a turn-off. I'm immediately aware that in all probability some of the people laughing are now dead. 'Nuf said.
Me4anwhile, in the case of James Bond, I suspect it's the difference between your mental image of the character and the actual actor that creates a problem. Had you not read the books and never seen a Bond movie -- in other words, if this was your very first introduction to the character James Bond -- would you have been surprised?
Regards, stay safe 'n well.
The books are different than the movies.
In the movies I can only recall one in which Bo
What is acting white?
No it is for the other person.Was that last question for me, because I've made no claim that there was such a thing?
No it is for the other person.
Your quote was included by mistake
Huckleberry Finn was fiction, but somehow casting Jim as a white escaped slave in 19th Century America wouldn't have cut it.
It depends. If the movie were based on Fleming's first Bond novel, Casino Royale, where the models for the character were former WWII British Commandos and naval intelligence officers (i.e., universally white), I don't think a black Cold War-era Bond would have worked. In a more modern setting, where blacks have in many ways come into their own, in the same way I can accept Judy Dench as "M," it wouldn't make a difference to me. A female head of MI6 in 1953 simply wouldn't have been credible. So context makes a difference.
I just wanted to quote this. A White escaped slave. lol
Obviously, an escaped slave in America has to be Black. The same can't be said for a Mi6 agent in 2020.
Unlike Sherlock Holmes, James Bond is not tied to a time period so it only makes sense that the character changes with the time period.
See my Post# 137. It should be obvious that a female head of MI6 or a black MI6 officer whose father grew up in the Scottish Highlands set in the early 1950s just isn't believable. 2020 is a different circumstance, just like a "white" slave in Ben Hur would be. The original novels were set in a specific period (the Cold War), and so was Sherlock Holmes. Doesn't mean the original source material can't be altered in cinema, though, which it has been.
That will be the question won't it?
Will black people accept a black actor in this role acting white the whole time?
Are you really serious with that remark?Why is it always ok to replace a white with a black but not the other way around?
Same blacks are offended white do voices on black cartoons
I'll interpret that to mean you retract your original comment. It's OK to have Black James Bond set in modern times. I agree that a Black James Bond in the 1950's makes no sense given how racist people were.
Actually, I never said it wasn't, so I'm not retracting anything. It depends on the setting. Set in 2020, it's fine, just as having a female head of MI6 is fine. The Casino Royale set in modern times with Judy Dench as "M" was, I thought, a good movie. Casino Royale set in 1953 during the Cold War, when women were basically relegated to being homemakers, teachers, secretaries, and nurses, wouldn't have been credible.
OK. Then we agree. Black James Bond in modern times is OK. A White Jim in Huckleberry Fin is not.
As is a black Israelite slave named Moses.
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