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West Point won’t punish cadets in raised-fist photo[W:301]

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apdst said:
It isn't hard to say that Newton and Seale were communist, racist black nationalists, traitors to the country and criminals.
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Read about the individuals and what you will find is they really werent any of those things. They were selfish. They were politicians. They exploited a time and a 'movement'. I dont know that I would go beyond that with either of them.
 
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Hatuey said:
Which part of it is insulting? Report it if you wish. I make no apologies for telling you what I think of your positions.
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apdst want the administration to bail him out before he looks even more foolish.
 
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VanceMack said:
That doesnt appear to be a response to the question posed. Getting to 'there' is easy enough. You know the drill.
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The offer is there until midnight. Don't disappoint me. ;)
 
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Hatuey said:
The offer is there until midnight. Don't disappoint me. ;)
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:yawn

No worries. You know the path to getting there. Starts with you answering the actual question you chimed in on. Nothings changed. Except of course your post count. 51 and counting and you still refuse to answer the question.
 
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VanceMack said:
Read about the individuals and what you will find is they really werent any of those things. They were selfish. They were politicians. They exploited a time and a 'movement'. I dont know that I would go beyond that with either of them.
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I haven't seen anything to suggest that they weren't any of those things.

They founded the Black Panther Party for Self Defense, with a goal of violent revolution against The United States government to create a seperate black nation. That sounds like secession, too.
 
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Texmex said:
So, only people who attend military academies to have an opinion.Question, if you are so knowledgeable, why does the leadership of West Point disagree with you. Evidently, you don't know nearly as much as you think you do.
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I worked with Navy Cadets every summer for 20 years. I also lectured hundreds of Army Cadets for small small boat maintenance squadrons. I interacted with a few thousand Cadets and know what they go through and how they are required to behave.
 
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katzgar said:
more right wing demonizing, even your local high schoolers use it
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You're the one that made a factual claim. Now, back it up
 
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Texmex said:
So, only people who attend military academies to have an opinion.Question, if you are so knowledgeable, why does the leadership of West Point disagree with you. Evidently, you don't know nearly as much as you think you do.
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The only thing West Point and I disagree on is the degree of punishment.
 
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apdst said:
I haven't seen anything to suggest that they weren't any of those things.

They founded the Black Panther Party for Self Defense, with a goal of violent revolution against The United States government to create a seperate black nation. That sounds like secession, too.
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Violent revolution wasn't advocated until 69 and not by its original founders (unless you have some evidence otherwise).

I believe that had the BPP continued as a political entity the black community today would be in much better shape.
 
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VanceMack said:
Violent revolution wasn't advocated until 69 and not by its original founders (unless you have some evidence otherwise).

I believe that had the BPP continued as a political entity the black community today would be in much better shape.
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The panthers were formed in 1966. I'm 1967 Newton murdered a cop. Terrorism, armed resistence, criminal.

Read revolutionary suicide.
 
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katzgar said:
I just caught it, you are a southerner...by birth?
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Oh, now you're going to employ bigotry?
 
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apdst said:
The panthers were formed in 1966. I'm 1967 Newton murdered a cop. Terrorism, armed resistence, criminal.

Read revolutionary suicide.
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No doubt the individuals were flawed beings. Their character and actions were responsible for the eventual de-evolution of the movement. They didn't advocate violent revolution til 69.
 
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JoeTrumps said:
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http://www.nytimes.com/2016/05/11/u...ist-photo.html?smid=tw-nytimes&smtyp=cur&_r=0

Wow. The bowing to the left continues.

It is against regulations to engage in political activity while in your dress uniform. Period.

The Superintendent of the Academy reviews the circumstances and concluded that it was all an innocent prank with no political overtones, and merely represented a sense of "unity". yeah......right

Nothing like a good double standard in order to keep things politically correct. We must ignore the obvious; look at a picture and ignore basic rational thinking. That's what the nation has become.
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LOL
Total nonissue

West Point made its decision and Im good with that.
 
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VanceMack said:
No doubt the individuals were flawed beings. Their character and actions were responsible for the eventual de-evolution of the movement. They didn't advocate violent revolution til 69.
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You might--a big might IMO--be able to make that claim about Seales and Newton, but it's incorrect to broad brush the black panthers as not being any of those things.
 
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apdst said:
You might--a big might IMO--be able to make that claim about Seales and Newton, but it's incorrect to broad brush the black panthers as not being any of those things.
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To the contrary...I can't make the argument of the organization without proof.
 
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VanceMack said:
To the contrary...I can't make the argument of the organization without proof.
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Sure, but it's still incorrect. :)
 
Re: West Point won’t punish cadets in raised-fist photo

apdst said:
That isn't what you said.

This is,



Now, back it up.
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Stanford v Army | Getty Images

cant find the one that was on the news but this will do...stanford vs army

the next one is navy vs army The Navy Midshipmen celebrate with fans after the conclusion of the... Pictures | Getty Images

Army personnel support their team during the Army Black Knights Vs... Pictures | Getty Images Army Black Knights Vs Air Force Falcons, College Football at West Point, New York

yale vs army Army supporters and cheerleaders cheer on their team during the Yale... Pictures | Getty Images
 
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katzgar said:
Stanford v Army | Getty Images

cant find the one that was on the news but this will do...stanford vs army

the next one is navy vs army The Navy Midshipmen celebrate with fans after the conclusion of the... Pictures | Getty Images

Army personnel support their team during the Army Black Knights Vs... Pictures | Getty Images Army Black Knights Vs Air Force Falcons, College Football at West Point, New York

yale vs army Army supporters and cheerleaders cheer on their team during the Yale... Pictures | Getty Images
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That's your evidence?
 
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