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[W:911] Documentary exposing the hidden history of Israel's founding

What evidence do you have that those who have been opposing Israel would ever be willing to settle for a “two-state solution?”

It is quite clear that you are a victim of Israeli propaganda and thus cannot establish an objective viewpoint in this matter.
 
No worse than any other country has done

Whataboutism is the best you can do? Actually, that pretty much proves the point of the blood on the hands of the Israelis. And they continue to illegally take Palestinian land for their “settlements” right up to today. No other country in the world could get away with that without condemnation from the world over.
 
Whataboutism is the best you can do? Actually, that pretty much proves the point of the blood on the hands of the Israelis.
It's relevant to compare them to the standard of every other country


What makes Israel worse than the US or England?
 
There can be no two state solution. The Arab state would immediately be funded by the rest of the Middle East and commence war with Israel

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No it wouldn’t.

Egypt hasn’t had a issue with Israel since Israel gave back the Sinai. Syria isn’t in any shape to fund anything. Saudi Arabia hates Iran WAY more than it hates Israel, and the same goes for most of the petro-states. Jordan is a western friendly monarchy.

Who do you fantasize would be funding this supposed war?
 
It's relevant to compare them to the standard of every other country


What makes Israel worse than the US or England?

Go play whataboutism by yourself if that’s the “best” you can do. I will contInue to focus on the misdeeds of Israel right up to today while you spout clear Israeli propaganda.
 
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No it wouldn’t.

Egypt hasn’t had a issue with Israel since Israel gave back the Sinai. Syria isn’t in any shape to fund anything. Saudi Arabia hates Iran WAY more than it hates Israel, and the same goes for most of the petro-states. Jordan is a western friendly monarchy.

Who do you fantasize would be funding this supposed war?
Iraq, Iran, Egypt and Saudi Arabia would all immediately fund Palestine


You are free to have a different opinion
 
Go play whataboutism by yourself if that’s the “best” you can do. I will contInue to focus on the misdeeds of Israel right up to today while you spout clear Israeli propaganda.
While your own country did much worse


Give up YOUR land
 
Why.

Do you think there are a lot of countries out there that are run by the original inhabitants of that area.

The native Americans themselves had no problem pushing another tribe out and stealing their land.
No.Historical and rights are tricky, to say the least. They were usually determined by 'might makes right".
Israel is the first nation in history to gain statehood by diplomatic means.
 
Iraq, Iran, Egypt and Saudi Arabia would all immediately fund Palestine


You are free to have a different opinion
Iraq is in little shape to fund anything outside their own borders. Egypt is run by a pro western dictator. Saudi Arabia has had a detente going with Israel born out of mutual loathing for Iran for years now.

Your claims just aren’t based in reality.
 
No.Historical and rights are tricky, to say the least. They were usually determined by 'might makes right".
Israel is the first nation in history to gain statehood by diplomatic means.

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Not even close.
 
No.Historical and rights are tricky, to say the least. They were usually determined by 'might makes right".
Israel is the first nation in history to gain statehood by diplomatic means.

While they may have “gained statehood” by diplomatic means, by what means did they gain the land on which they sit?
 
Iraq is in little shape to fund anything outside their own borders. Egypt is run by a pro western dictator. Saudi Arabia has had a detente going with Israel born out of mutual loathing for Iran for years now.

Your claims just aren’t based in reality.
Iran currently funds hamas with weapons. They would also fund a Palestine state


The Islamic Republic of Iran officially recognises Palestine as a state. Ali Khamenei, the Supreme Leader of Iran, rejects a two-state solution and implies that Palestine is inseparable, while Iran's former President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad called for a free referendum for the entire Palestinian population, including Arab citizens of Israel, to determine the type of government in the future Palestinian State,[1] while reiterating that establishment of a Palestinian State alongside Israel would "never mean an endorsement of the Israeli occupation".[2]
 
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While they may have “gained statehood” by diplomatic means, by what means did they gain the land on which they sit?
The same way the British empire was built
 
Iran currently funds hands with weapons. They would also fund a Palestine state


The Islamic Republic of Iran officially recognises Palestine as a state. Ali Khamenei, the Supreme Leader of Iran, rejects a two-state solution and implies that Palestine is inseparable, while Iran's former President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad called for a free referendum for the entire Palestinian population, including Arab citizens of Israel, to determine the type of government in the future Palestinian State,[1] while reiterating that establishment of a Palestinian State alongside Israel would "never mean an endorsement of the Israeli occupation".[2]

Iran is on the other side of the region. There’s an limit to how much they can actually fund.
 
Iran is on the other side of the region. There’s an limit to how much they can actually fund.
Saudi Arabia, Egypt and Jordan have all given money to hamas in the past
 
Calling Israel a “functioning” democracy is pretty funny given how Bibi is back in charge.
Your Bibi-hate isn’t relevant here.

And orientalist blather about how the Palestinians represent the “medieval world” is rather pathetic.
Not when you read Hamas’s founding charter it isn’t.
 
While they may have “gained statehood” by diplomatic means, by what means did they gain the land on which they sit?
it was granted to them by the British.Although the Jewish people have a long history of persecution and land being taken FROM them,The Israelis did not take anything from anybody. It was restoration of rights long due them as the Israelites were the original occupants of this land.
 
it was granted to them by the British.Although the Jewish people have a long history of persecution and land being taken FROM them,The Israelis did not take anything from anybody. It was restoration of rights long due them as the Israelites were the original occupants of this land.
Well that is just completely wrong.

Pretty sure as far as we know it was the canaanites who first lived there. Who were conquered by the Israelites.

It definitely wasn’t the Israelites and they did take something from someone.
 
it was granted to them by the British.Although the Jewish people have a long history of persecution and land being taken FROM them,The Israelis did not take anything from anybody. It was restoration of rights long due them as the Israelites were the original occupants of this land.
Nope. Not original.

The oldest know group of inhabitants were Canaanites. Israel stole the land of Canaan, though with God's approval.

I imagine that is one of the first accounts of land being taken in the name of God.
 
I don't see this as much different than our own civil war. We wouldn't stand for a two state solution...why should israel?

We didn’t keep the southerners as second class citizens either.
 
We didn’t keep the southerners as second class citizens either.
True. But we denied them a separate state. The south stopped rebelling. No need to do anything to them


But if Alabama launched one rocket at new York......it's on
 
Well that is just completely wrong.

Pretty sure as far as we know it was the canaanites who first lived there. Who were conquered by the Israelites.

It definitely wasn’t the Israelites and they did take something from someone.
Beat me to it.

From the Merneptah Stele, which is the earliest documentation of a land called Israel:

The princes are prostrate, saying, "Peace!"
Not one is raising his head among the Nine Bows.
Now that Tehenu (Libya) has come to ruin,
Hatti is pacified;
The Canaan has been plundered into every sort of woe:
Ashkelon has been overcome;
Gezer has been captured;
Yano'am is made non-existent.
Israel is laid waste and his seed is not;
Hurru is become a widow because of Egypt.


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^^^ Canaan

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^^^ Israel
 
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