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Voices of besieged Mariupol: ‘It’s not even comparable to hell’

Gimmesometruth said:
For some bizarre reason he thinks I'm the US govt being hypocritical, it might be a translation issue on his side.
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No, I’m pointing out the fact that the US government’s rhetoric and claims of “genocide” ads blatantly hypocritical. Not sure why that baffles you so much.
 
multivita-man said:
I would be willing to have a nuclear war with Russia. Obviously, it's the absolute last resort, for all the obvious reasons, but if a country is willing to threaten others with nuclear force, willing to commit mass murder, willing to commit genocide, willing to use chemical weapons...they're capable of anything. A major part of the reason Russia is 'capable of anything' is because they assume that we're too afraid to get dirty.

My view is this: living in the nuclear age, and being a power that possesses nuclear weapons, necessarily means that you have to be willing to get your uniforms dirty. You have to be willing to take punishment. If the US has nuclear weapons, we have to expect that at some point we might be involved in nuclear war.

Russia threatens to use nukes because, as we've seen, their armed forces are shit. And they assume we're too afraid to get involved with Russia one on one. We need to turn this on its head. Economic sanctions alone won't work. We have to annihilate Russia's army, and we have to do so even if they threaten nukes. We have to threaten nukes in retaliation. Putin needs to know we're not afraid -- of any outcome.
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Nuclear war is a ****ing disaster on monumental scales that completely wipes out an entire city for YEARS! after detonation. Those willing to threaten nuclear war have no idea the costs of such war.
 
Gimmesometruth said:
For some bizarre reason he thinks I'm the US govt being hypocritical, it might be a translation issue on his side.
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Gimmesometruth:

The poster in question is like a very determined dog with a bone. It's not a translation problem. It's a tradition and a custom which the poster cannot break out of. He does not respond to what others post. He responds to what he thinks other posters mean as filtered through his understanding of the reading. He's not arguing with you, he's arguing with an hallucination which he has created of you in his head. He has fixated on one thing and cannot be shaken off the bone. It's unfortunate because when he's not fixated, he can make good arguments. But when he's in spiraling fixation, then there is just no debating with him.

Cheers and be well.
Evilroddy.
 
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Tigerace117 said:
No, I’m pointing out the fact that the US government’s rhetoric and claims of “genocide” ads blatantly hypocritical. Not sure why that baffles you so much.
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Tigerace117:

Hypocrisy of a third-party government does not alter the very real war crimes, crimes against humanity and the potential of the crime of genocide being committed by another state. Nor do the very real crimes of a Middle Eastern kingdom negate the very real crimes of an aggressor state in Eastern Europe. The fact that the USG is playing up one country's crimes while down-playing another's crimes does not change the fact that both countries are committing dreadful war crimes, crimes against humanity and perhaps crimes which could rise to the level of genocide. USG hypocrisy does not change the facts on the ground, now does it? So why beat this dead horse post mortem?

Cheers and be well.
Evilroddy.
 
Rogue Valley said:
Pointing out to everyone how you have some sort of weird fetish about an individal that has been dead for 63 years is a service to all the members here.

They should know what you fantasize about 24/7. It's unhealthy man. You need an intervention. Badly.
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If it were not for the Bandera hero worshippers of ultranationalists the Kiev Maidan. leading
to the ouster of Yanokovich in 2014 never would have occuured. Additionally your assumption
that the vaunted Azov Battalion, Swododa & Right Sector are no longer
relevant reveal an attempt to hide their significance right uo to today or ignorance of it!
 
slick said:
If it were not for the Bandera hero worshippers of ultranationalists the Kiev Maidan. leading
to the ouster of Yanokovich in 2014 never would have occuured. Additionally your assumption
that the vaunted Azov Battalion, Swododa & Right Sector are no longer
relevant reveal an attempt to hide their significance right uo to today or ignorance of it!
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You couldn't find Ukraine on a map with a neon sticker on it.

Stick with those things you know about like Capitol coup's.
 
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