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US Presidential Debate- Links to live streaming.

Gina said:
That is a low, low bar. Sorry. A person running to lead this country, has to be held much more in account than to say he didn't implode.

And, he's not a virgin. He went through how many Republican debates? He's just hasn't faced an opponent who didn't need to kowtow to the GOP electorate.
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Hey, I'm not saying he won, or competed hotly.

He managed to get points in for the Rustbelt swing states, and a few others. I'm kinda' surprised he held in with her.

He's never had a one-on-one debate with a skilled politician before.
 
apdst said:
She's an idiot, period.
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Thats all ya got? Your looking as tired as your canidate. He did not look well, perhaps he can do what he did for Hilldog, she looked fighting fit, even temperment.
 
nota bene said:
Not sure why you're interjecting race into this. After eight years, the pendulum generally swings.
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Maybe because the Republican candidate has ran the most overtly racist and bigoted campaign since George Wallace. For crying out loud, he started his campaign by making a bigoted statement about immigrants from Latin America.

If the Republican base would have had sense enough to nominate Kasich, they would be we ahead right now because the pendulum does tend to swing after 8 years, but there is a reason why Trump has the lowest support among minorities of any Republican candidate in decades if not ever.
 
Trump did great, if The Rebellion loses we cant blame him.

What a patriot!
 
TheGoverness said:
Trump prepared for this debate like I used to think I could study for tests at the last second.

Didn't work out so well for me.
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I suspect Hilldog will get a slight bounce, Trump not so much
 
TheGoverness said:
She didn't destroy him. But she certainly out peformed him tonight.
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I wouldn't doubt she pulls-in some undecideds and 3rd partiers tonight, and gets a slight bump reversing her several week's slide.
 
Puigb said:
You are right, the pendulum does swing.

The thing is, Trump is a race baiting piece of garbage who's rhetoric is very appealing to the far right/white nationalist crowd. And the most amusing thing about it all is that the man was the least conservative candidate running. So did the pendulum really swing the other way, or did self proclaimed conservatives support a guy with ZERO conservative credentials all because of race baiting rhetoric?
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Yep, when Trump said he didn't know what david duke stood for, that showed who he was pandering to.
 
trouble13 said:
You really.think she deystroyed him tonight?

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I guarantee you his polling numbers will drop at least a couple of points over the next week or so.
 
538 always has some interesting stuff. Biased comments here, but still interesting. Take them for what they are worth: First Presidential Debate: Live Coverage | FiveThirtyEight

Harry Enten 10:42 PM

When looking at the instant post-debate polls, keep in mind that they can change. Back in 2000, Gore won the instant polls. It was Bush who gained in the polls, however, as the post-debate spin took place.
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That is a really important word or warning. There will be lots of online polls about who won the next couple days. Ignore them.

Nate Silver 10:42 PM

My editor tells me that readers want my subjective impressions of the debate, knowing full well that they’re subjective. And my impressions are that Clinton became a more plausible president tonight and Trump became a less plausible one.
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I think that sums it up pretty well. Trump needed to look presidential. He didn't, Clinton did.
 
JC Callender said:
I asked you if you paid more than you owed by law?
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He was asked if he paid 0 income tax. Are you comfortable having a president that has invaded basic US taxes that voters pay and that he will enforce?
 
reinoe said:
Trump should have hit her harder on her support for laws that unfairly targeted Blacks when she was First Lady. Predictably he wallowed in Stop n Frisk like I thought he would. God Giuliani is awful for planting those evil seeds in Trump's mind. It's such a losing issue.
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Amen!
 
SenorXm/Sirius said:
Yep, when Trump said he didn't know what david duke stood for, that showed who he was pandering to.
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The funny thing is, Trump back in 2000 left the reform party because of David Duke.

But now that he needs David Duke (and Duke's supporters) votes, he suddenly has amnesia.
 
SouthernDemocrat said:
I guarantee you his polling numbers will drop at least a couple of points over the next week or so.
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That has been a real unsafe thing to say this year...

Betting markets have Clinton up post debate, by about 5 points. What that means, who knows.
 
Cardinal said:
Clinton clearly stood her ground but could have done better at dealing with interruptions. No, I don't actually know what a better way is because I don't deal well with being interrupted myself, but I have little doubt that she and her campaign staff appreciate the problem and will try to tackle it.
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She was interrupted 40 times in the first half hour! 25 were Trump. She oozed tolerance.
 
Puigb said:
You are right, the pendulum does swing.

The thing is, Trump is a race baiting piece of garbage who's rhetoric is very appealing to the far right/white nationalist crowd. And the most amusing thing about it all is that the man was the least conservative candidate running. So did the pendulum really swing the other way, or did self proclaimed conservatives support a guy with ZERO conservative credentials all because of race baiting rhetoric?
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If your going to be honest obama owns some of the blame for the air of hostility.

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Jack Hays said:
PA is, I suspect, his central target.
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Well, what he may try to take from the rural west, he could lose in the Philly suburbs. Watch the polls in PA next week, I think it was a bad gambit then.
 
Chomsky said:
We usually don't disagree, but I saw a frustrated unprepared Trump often get rattled, and look fatigued and unprepared. While she looked well prepared, calm, and strategic. I see her pretty strong over him, here.
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Right, but Trump's demographic is sealed in. At the end, Trump got flustered, I agree, but that wasn't the beginning of the debate, so he set the initial expectations and he did a few important things. He initially tarred Hillary as a failed politician, and she basically just rolled over. I know the bull**** in his speech, so he didn't fool me --but your average American who's ever had problems from NAFTA? For the low-information voters who haven't made up their minds yet? That's a major jobs question, which is a #1 voter issue. They may think Trump is ineloquent (probably not even), but if they believe that he's speaking to their interests, they'll vote for him. Remember, his job is not to get Millennials, minorities, etc, to vote for him. It's to get middle America out in record numbers and people who're pissed, and I think he made that case correctly. Whereas I do not think that she made her case to Millennials, who she really needs.

The only way that this worked for Hillary is if she managed to convince people that she's competent, and frankly, I'm not convinced she did it. If she rises in the polls, then it's because she's managed to convince people she'll be best at the helm, but I'm not totally sure she made that case.


PS: I sincerely hope that I'm wrong here, and as ever, we'll see after a week of polling.
 
Chomsky said:
Hey, I'm not saying he won, or competed hotly.

He managed to get points in for the Rustbelt swing states, and a few others. I'm kinda' surprised he held in with her.

He's never had a one-on-one debate with a skilled politician before.
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Ted Cruz is an award winning debate guy:

When he was at Princeton, Mr Cruz was an award-winning debater. In 1992 he won both the US National Debating Championship and the North American Debating Championship. In 1995 he was a semifinalist in the World Universities Debating Championship.
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I don't think Clinton holds that distinction.
 
Higgins86 said:
He was asked if he paid 0 income tax. Are you comfortable having a president that has invaded basic US taxes that voters pay and that he will enforce?
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Did he break any laws? Let me put it another way, if you were required to pay $0 in taxes because of the industry you were in, would you send money to the IRS anyway?
 
Neither MSNBC, SLATE, VOX, NEW REPUBLIC or CNN is willing to say Hillary won, which means Trump did.
 
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